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Why should working women get childcare tax breaks?
Black Velvet
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294252/Budget-2013--1-500-childcare-tax-breaks-woo-working-women.
Just been reaing this and feel that the goverment fall over themselves to give working women help when elderly people and childless foot the bill. If you have children and don't want to stay at home and look after them and put them into nursary or with a childminder then you should have to foot the bill yourself. why should other people have to pay for you?
Its not wonder we have so many unruly children in Britain being left in nursaries and with childminders eight or more hours a day five days a week. Its a long day for the under fives being left with strangers.Too many mothers are leaving their kids because they don't want the responsibility of having to stay at home bringing up their children.
The goverment would be better making it more worthwhile for mother's to stay at home looking after their own children.
Just been reaing this and feel that the goverment fall over themselves to give working women help when elderly people and childless foot the bill. If you have children and don't want to stay at home and look after them and put them into nursary or with a childminder then you should have to foot the bill yourself. why should other people have to pay for you?
Its not wonder we have so many unruly children in Britain being left in nursaries and with childminders eight or more hours a day five days a week. Its a long day for the under fives being left with strangers.Too many mothers are leaving their kids because they don't want the responsibility of having to stay at home bringing up their children.
The goverment would be better making it more worthwhile for mother's to stay at home looking after their own children.
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Would you also like the fathers of the children whose mothers go to work and leave their children in nurseries to stay at home too?
Why pick on the mothers?:rolleyes:
So far in this thread its seems to be about the parents and not about the welfare of the children who are left five days a week for eight hours or more in the care of strangers.
The jury is out on the impact on children of being in some form of early childcare. And many mothers work part time to avoid long hours for their children. Many children are cared for by childminders in a domestic setting who become far more than strangers.
Family circumstances change - you can plan all you like but unemployment, ill health and relationship breakdown can occur at any time and throw these plans into confusion.
so anyone on benefits shouldn't have children? so only those paying more into the system then they take out should have children?
Simple answer. Don't pay childcare. Bring the children up yourselves.
But why would anyone choose to have children if one or both parents are on benefits? Not unless you are going to being able to get an awful lot of benefits which some people seem to be managing to do if they are not working and have children living off benefits.
No people who have children even if they are paying into the system should not be entitled to getting free childcare or tax breaks. You choose to have the children look after them yourselves.
Exactly!
Children from under privileged backgrounds can benefit a lot from early education and childcare - remember that even childminders these days are Ofsted registered.
'People on benefits' are not necessarily some permanent group - people move on and off benefits as their circumstances change.
Are you advocating that the poor shouldn't reproduce at all?
Every child isn't planned for a start.
Also, why should only those who prosper in this corrupt current system be allowed to create life itself. I'm sorry, life isn't a commodity determined in it's existence by a corrupt corporate welfare of a system.
Easy - Under 2s - needs 1 carer per three children, Under 3, it goes up to four. That means for under 2s you are paying 1/3 of a nursery nurse's salary plus the building costs plus daily expenses plus a profit. Oh and the employers NI.
So if you're a basic rate tax payer, you only need to earn £4690 a year extra before the government has made that back in Tax and NI.
If you're a high flyer and a higher rate tax payer it's £3571.
So you want to bar the poor from having children?
And if your circumstances change? Give them up for adoption eh?
sorry folks. i worded that totally wrong. i meant if working mums cant afford child care dont expect others to pay it for you. obviously that doesnt apply to mums on benefits as they dont work .,Do they???
It's in the Daily Mail. Quelle surprise!
'But the same study showed that this was a small effect compared with the quality of parenting. Moreover, children who attended high quality nurseries were much less likely to experience later behavioural problems.’