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Airshows should be BANNED!!
Eddie Munster
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What is the point of these except to show off?
Considering the tragedy of today and others in the past, there's absolutely no need to do these anymore. Too dangerous and idiotic.
What next?
Firing live tank fire in a field with a massive crowd watching?
Considering the tragedy of today and others in the past, there's absolutely no need to do these anymore. Too dangerous and idiotic.
What next?
Firing live tank fire in a field with a massive crowd watching?
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Compare that to the number of accidents on boats, in cars, at funfairs, on beaches. Shall we ban all of these things as well?
Airshows are great family fun... having been to Biggin Hill Airshow every year since I was a kid. I had the misfortune of seeing one of the two crashes there in 2001, and it is truly devastating! But the pilots died doing what they loved. And the vast majority of airshows are a testament to the superb health and safety procedures we have in the UK.
So rather than damning on the basis of one incident, why not step back and look at the bigger picture. Airshows are recreational fun, they're informative and educational, and they're an event that gets people out of the house. Now and again, and very rarely, tradedy strikes...as is true of any recreational activity. Why not think with a dose of common sense next time before you begin posting things like this?
Boy bands?
Most TV?
And if there is a dangerous element then it makes it more entertaining until it turns into real tragedy. Like going to the circus and watching a high-wire act. Entertaining unless the person falls.
Possibly the first thing you've said that I agree with.
Hey, it's scary out there :kitty::o:D
No, all they need to do is make sure that no aerobatic manoevres are performed over busy major roads and airshow crowds. I am astonished that this plane seems to have attempted a loop over the A27.
If that condition cannot be met, no airshow at that airfield should be permitted. There are plenty of airfields or other vantage points with open fields or open sea off to least one side and that's where aerobatics should be done.
Oh I dunno...more hysteria at 10?
Some airshows get thousands of spectators. My local one used to get nearly 100,000 people over a single weekend. So that's your 'few' spectators for you.
And I guess we should close all funfairs, theme parks, beaches, horse races, car races and basically anything recreational because it will only be an inconvenience, and spares the relatively few lives lost over a huge number of years.
I'd be willing to bet that if the forum had been around in the eighties, we'd have had "BAN FOOTBALL!" after the Heysel Stadium disaster.
I don't think there ever was a "need" to do them before...but that would be missing the point.
The universe is full of stories of shit stuff that happened when something was being done that didn't "need" to be done, but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be done.
To give people enjoyment. Yes, okay, the pilots are showing off their skills, but the people will also be enjoying it though. I'm sure there'll be other displays where there's a big risk of being killed.
Why can't they just fly over open fields instead of people going about their lives... So if it does crash the person who could die is the person who half expected it that there was a risk of it happening
If you want air shows banned because of the odd death, I suppose you also want to ban chocolate, fast food, fizzy drinks, the internet, swimming, parachuting, cars, mobile phones... just about anything that brings a lot of pleasure but also directly or indirectly kills a percentage of people every year.
Most of those things are the things that people now the risks about... People didn't know the risks about travelling down a motor way knowing a stunt plane could crash and kill them
Such comparisons are silly.
While I'm not on the 'ban airshows!!' ridiculousness, at the same time, these people that were killed today were just driving along a road. They weren't flying, watching, or a part of the air show or anything. They made no decision or choice in putting themselves at risk.
IMO they should be done over water like at Bournemouth or Eastbourne, that way only the pilots put themselves at risk.
Walking down the street is also a risk. Far more people die each year as a result of street crime than people who die in air show accidents. I would say that most people are aware of (but don't care about) the potential dangers of each.
I walk down the street knowing there's a 0.005% something chance that I'm going to be randomly stabbed to death or killed by a hit and run driver.
I attend an air show knowing there's a 0.0000005% something chance that a plane is going to kill me in a freak accident.
It would make more sense to ban walking down the street.
But it is just that.. an accident. It wasn't planned, wasn't deliberate...
Again, silly comparisons.
You need to walk down the street to go about your lives. There are risks but you have to take them to get on with life.
Do we really need to have aircraft attempting loops above busy dual carriageways?
Ultimately this is just a freak one-of-a-kind incident. Massive condolences to the lives lost, it's really horrible. They didn't ask to be there, but then such is the unique nature of this incident it would be apt to compare it to people caught up in car crashes, car collisions, boat incidents, and even commercial plane crashes. Airshows are not like how people are painting them here, if they were then I might be able to agree with the risks they pose. As it is, they are remarkably safe...over land or sea.
It's a worry to me that the sort of people whose knee-jerk reaction is to call for a ban on stuff actually breed. Dawinism inversed.
Oh dear, spurious statistics to bolster a illogical argument.
The people killed were not at the Air Show.
People who pay to go to an Air Show accept the tiny risk of death, people going about their lawful business should not expect to have a vintage jet-fighter fall on them.
Disgraceful and feckless