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Coalition Success On Housing

Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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Number of homeless families housed in B&Bs rises 300% in five years

Well it just means more housing for everyone else.

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    Pumping IronPumping Iron Posts: 29,891
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    We need to build a lot more cheap social housing and not sell them off!
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    LakieLadyLakieLady Posts: 19,722
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    People who work with the homeless or in homelessness prevention are all too aware that the true numbers of homeless families are a lot higher. Many families stay with other family members or with friends, and they aren't counted in those figures.
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    MesostimMesostim Posts: 52,864
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    With the upcoming attack on tax credits it's not difficult to see many more homeless families will appear... if you are on a tight budget and you suddenly lose thousands a year something will give... and very quickly.
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    tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    LakieLady wrote: »
    People who work with the homeless or in homelessness prevention are all too aware that the true numbers of homeless families are a lot higher. Many families stay with other family members or with friends, and they aren't counted in those figures.

    This is so true.
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    Jol44Jol44 Posts: 21,048
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    LakieLady wrote: »
    People who work with the homeless or in homelessness prevention are all too aware that the true numbers of homeless families are a lot higher. Many families stay with other family members or with friends, and they aren't counted in those figures.

    Very true.
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    AndyCopenAndyCopen Posts: 2,213
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    There seems to be a plethora of spare rooms about, so seems reasonable reuse
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    Alan1981Alan1981 Posts: 5,416
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    Can't they house them in Poland? Cheap housing and lots of room.
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    tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    AndyCopen wrote: »
    There seems to be a plethora of spare rooms about, so seems reasonable reuse

    28% of households are occupied by someone living on their own in the uk.
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    Net NutNet Nut Posts: 10,286
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    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jun/24/homelessness-england-families-temporary-accommodation-bed-and-breakfast

    From the link -

    " Official figures show nearly 50,000 families in England are living in temporary accommodation, laying bare the impact of government cuts"

    That's like a medium size town :o
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    BrokenArrowBrokenArrow Posts: 21,665
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    We need to build a lot more cheap social housing and not sell them off!

    Not on my watch unless its accompanied by a cap on the total population.
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    nobodyherenobodyhere Posts: 1,313
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    LakieLady wrote: »
    People who work with the homeless or in homelessness prevention are all too aware that the true numbers of homeless families are a lot higher. Many families stay with other family members or with friends, and they aren't counted in those figures.

    Believe you are talking about the "Hidden homeless" demographic, which stands at 400,000+

    As you said, unless you actually have involvement in the voluntary supporting vulnerable (in this case homeless) people, you face an uphill struggle to convince them the problem even exists to begin with before you can even go about helping those in that situation, let alone tackling the root causes that land people to end up in that predicament.

    Then you throw in the stigma associated with homelessness that is often assumed they must really had screwed up to end up that way (crime, alchohol, drugs, gambling and other addictions) disregarding any chance they ended up that way for other reasons.. because that is how media will often depict them and how the public is conditioned to percieve them

    Studies suggest amongst men in particular that could be partially true.. at least in the case of substance abuse and those leaving institutions (prison), but that is a small part of it, another big cause is relationship breakdowns/split ups

    Where as with women it can often be poor health, or escaping domestic violence.. particularly in the case of the latter because the safeguards preventing abuse victims from having to choose between going home to a violent partner or sleeping rough are gradually being eroded away

    Like a great many things, most don't pay attention and acknowledge them as problems until they are in the situation themselves.
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    Rastus PiefaceRastus Pieface Posts: 4,382
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    Net Nut wrote: »
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jun/24/homelessness-england-families-temporary-accommodation-bed-and-breakfast

    From the link -

    " Official figures show nearly 50,000 families in England are living in temporary accommodation, laying bare the impact of government cuts"

    That's like a medium size town :o

    what is the definition of temporary accomodation? i.e how long is a temporary period?
    and if it's temporary, where do they go after this temporary period?
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    glasshalffullglasshalffull Posts: 22,291
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    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jun/25/overcrowding-housing-raid-26-living-three-bedroom-east-london

    And here's another example...so what do the government intend to do...introduce powers to enable them to ban local councils from setting up procedure to identify and deal with this sort of situation.

    I'm sure being told there is nothing the local council can do about it will go down really well with the Tory voters find this sort of thing happening in their street/next door to them.
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    OxygenatedOxygenated Posts: 1,431
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    We need to build a lot more cheap social housing and not sell them off!

    I agree with you Pumping Iron.

    I would much prefer to see money pushed into Help to Buy channeled into building social housing instead. The rest of the money needed for this project can come from the foreign aid bill.

    This approach would also create jobs. It's win-win as far as I am concerned.
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    Doctor_WibbleDoctor_Wibble Posts: 26,580
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    Alan1981 wrote: »
    Can't they house them in Poland? Cheap housing and lots of room.
    And if we are to believe the stories (from all sides though with different motivations), plenty of employment opportunities too!
    what is the definition of temporary accomodation? i.e how long is a temporary period?
    and if it's temporary, where do they go after this temporary period?
    There's other questions to go with that - at what rate is this number increasing (if that is the case), how does it compare with the rate of formation of families, and how is anyone defining 'family' nowadays given that we are constantly told that the 'family unit' is a thing of the past?

    There's no denying that we need a lot of affordable (in the real sense, not the political "affordable" definition) housing, I just prefer things to be on the basis of known figures rather than what may or may not simply be scary extrapolations of things.
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