How does the James Bond Timeline work I think it must be Timetravel
Its my biggest annoyance about the films. Up until 1999s The World Is Not Enough, they make reference to Bonds late wife Tracy. So if we take say that in Dr No Bond is 32, that would mean by 1999 he would be 69. What years are the films supposed to be set?
Trouble is they look contemporary for the time they were made.
I used to think that when they changed actors, that was a new person taking over the name of James Bond and his Number of 007. (like they did with Q) However Tracy Bonds subsequent mentioning mucks up that theroy.
So timetravel must be the only way just like Mr Powers
Trouble is they look contemporary for the time they were made.
I used to think that when they changed actors, that was a new person taking over the name of James Bond and his Number of 007. (like they did with Q) However Tracy Bonds subsequent mentioning mucks up that theroy.
So timetravel must be the only way just like Mr Powers
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I think it's widely accepted that you just take them as they are.
If it's that much of a concern to you maybe you should stop over-thinking it all or stop watching altogether.
You got it.
The problem with this theory, as mentioned, is that Moore, Dalton and Brosnan all have references to being married to Tracy in OHMSS. He's meant to the be the same guy (up until Casino Royale, which completely started afresh.)
You just have to accept that every film is set in the contemporary time and no one ever really ages*. I believe it's a technique called a 'sliding timescale', or something along those lines.
* Except Roger Moore.
1st 007 (1962-1971) - Real name James Bond (played by Sean Connery and George Lazenby - works best if you class the two as the same character)
2nd 007 (1973-1985) - took on original 007's name and certain elements of his history as a cover to protect families of both original 007 and new 007.
Same pattern can be applied to Dalton and Brosnan, either classing them as the same character or two subsequent characters.
Present 007 (2006 - present) - is relative of original Bond real name James Bond, (which nicely explains certain extra elements to the new approach to the character, as superiors treat him with both more suspicion and more confidence simultaneously, whilst he feels he has something to prove and may even have unkown chip on his shoulder related to fate of original Bond)
This is purely my own personal method of getting round the issue and whilst certain other continuity problems aren't so easily fixed, it can help. And can be extended to characters such as Felix etc.
Well we know for sure that there are two main timelines - the first 20 films and then the recent ones with Craig which are a reboot taking the whole story back to the beginning but I get what you mean about the first 20 films.
The way I look at it is that some of these missions could have taken place in the same year as the previous one. For example the mission in From Russia With Love could have taken place months after the one in Dr.No (after all they try and avenge Dr.No's death in FRWL) while The World Is Not Enough (where Bond mentions his wife) could have taken place a few years after On Her Majesty's Secret Secret Service despite the films being made 30 years apart and getting more modern if that makes sense
If that is a not a possible solution to the problem then I guess we will have to resort to the time-travel theory
A set of adventures and history for Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton, Brosnan and Craig.
Connery the original Bond.
A whole new Bond and world for Lazenby
A whole new Bond world for Moore (who retains the idea of the tragic loss of wife that Lazenby as a tribute to the history of the movies.
Same for Dalton and Brosnan
Whole new world for Craig although I tend to think of Vesper as Tracy to Craig's Bond. The woman he lost although Vesper did betray him.
Oh come on, play the game. :D
But they do have a continuity, for example, Diamonds are Forever starts with Bond hunting down Blofeld to avenge the death of his wife in OHMSS.
I think people are maybe overthinking these films a little bit though:p.
The Spy Who Loved Me to Moonraker - how would Bond know who Jaws was, and why would Drax have hired Jaws to catch Bond, if Moonraker hadn't been a direct continuation from TSWLM, and Jaws hadn't been the only henchman that Bond had failed to kill in an earlier movie?
A James Bond aged in his early-30's in 'Dr No.' is consistent with a James Bond aged in his mid-50's in 'A View to a Kill' over 20 years later. When Sean Connery left the series (for the second time), the producers replaced him with an actor the same age (roughly) in Roger Moore, so the two portrayals were clearly operating in a single timeline.
It wasn't until 1987, when the original 'Bond' would now have pushing 60 years old that the sliding timeline was first introduced, and Timothy Dalton came into the role. Dalton and Brosnan then operated in this second timescale, with Daniel Craig beginning a third.
Does anyone actually give a f*ck? The makers obviously don't.
maybe Daniel Craig is just the 6th agent to take the identity
and maybe all the other Bond's all lost wife's each maybe the dead wife comes with the identity.
if you want to look at it further. George Lazenby referred to "this never happened to my predecessor..." as a joke at the beginning I seem to remember.
Judi Dench may still be playing M, but she's clearly not the same character as she was in Brosnan's era. Just compare her "bean counter" character locking horns with Brosnan's "old cold war agent," in Goldeneye, to the "christ I miss the cold war," old-guard character she was in Casino Royale.
As for the "Bond timeline," I never give it much thought. I mean, not only does he not age, but he changes his face and persona on a regular basis. He's changed his accent on more than one occasion, too. He's regularly aided by an array of impossible gadgets. And let's face it, he should have died from liver failure, lung disease or some weird STD by now.
It's not a movie series that really merits being thought about too much!
The movies can do what they want. Each one is an entity in itself, apart from QOS which was virtually plotless.
just don't give the keys to your golden range rover to any guy you think is the valet
Maybe MI6 entry code in the Bond universe , involves those selected as agents having to previously be married to a lady called Tracey;)
Wasn't there an allusion of sorts to the whole idea of spy cover names in Quantum Of Solace. When Matiss is dying in Bonds arms and JB asks if that is his real name.
In 1987 there's a partial reboot when Bond loses a few years off his age (the Dalton/Brosnan era). Everything from the previous films still happened, but the dates have now moved along a few years.
In 2006 there's a total reboot (the Craig era) and a completely fresh start. Some events from previous films may still have happened, but not exactly as they were shown originally.