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Tosh and Tina - do we care?
TheGraduate2012
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Does anyone have the energy for another domestic violence storyline? The Carters are just coming across as totally Bleak House at the moment.
Also, I presume they are trying to paint Tina as 'the victim' but for me it just isn't doing it for me like other DV storylines have in the past. I mean, Tina slapped Tosh first the other day, so are they not just as bad as each other really?
Also, I presume they are trying to paint Tina as 'the victim' but for me it just isn't doing it for me like other DV storylines have in the past. I mean, Tina slapped Tosh first the other day, so are they not just as bad as each other really?
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I care. Tina slapped her, which was well deserved, then Tosh punched her for no reason but angriness.
Tina isn't the victim. DTC is obviously trying to paint Tosh the victim by making her say that sickening line, "you shouldn't have got me so angry", making Tina feel it was her fault.
As wrong as it is though, I don't care enough about Tina to understand how she can't leave Tosh as she doesn't seem to have any real attachment to her. They've made it so cookie-cutter as a storyline so idk if I even buy that it is doing any good for raising awareness.
The only thing I can see is that so many people on the square know it's happening and seem to be 'meh' on it that perhaps that's the point - that people think because it's woman on woman violence that it's nbd, which makes me think there's going to be an escalation at one point to prove how serious it is.
I don't see it that way. The 'shouldn't get me angry line' was absoluitely designed to make Tina appear trapped and under the thumb by a volatile partner. Hence why I think Tina is being made to look like the victim, especially when Tosh starts on her about her family, Zsa Zsa and accusing her of being glad that she wasn't pregnant.
Agreed. This is exactly how I took that line too.
I thought it was going that way too, especially when Tina slapped Tosh the other night, but then she was quickly silenced by a punch so I thought maybe not.
I agree with you that the characters who know seem relatively unconcerned, much less so than if Tosh was a man - could perhaps highlight people's casual attitude to same-sex domestic violence.
I got Tosh and Tina the wrong way round. I was meant to say that Tosh wasn't the victim and Tina was
Glad you agree. It's clear Tosh is trying to justify her actions to herself, by weakly blaming Tina for getting her mad. Seems like a classic trait of an abuser - Tina can't 'get her angry', yet she has free licence to say and do whatever she likes, of course. I am too afraid the writers will just go down the conventional route with this storyline but claim it is 'innovative' because it's a gay couple.
Too many Ts
It would be more interesting, I admit. Tina is a pretty boring character.
Agreed - even though Tosh is shown as 'more' violent, they are both abusers.
I disagree, Tina is still the victim, what they are trying to portray is the manipulation that an abuser uses to get around their victims.
I am interested to see how realistically they play this out once Tosh's parents come into play. I just hope they aren't stereotypical jobless, alcoholic/druggies who slapped their daughter about a bit or the parents that always had punch-ups in front of their kids.
But perhaps thats the truthful reality?That both are as bad as each other?
Hmm maybe,
She shouldn't of slapped Tosh but tosh has been hitting Tina for ages. When we first met tina, it was referenced a lot that Tina's ex (later to be revealed as tosh) had been hitting her. Plus she pushed her face into a door or wall a few months ago. Plus Tosh didn't just punch Tosh on a spur of the moment. Tina slapped her. Tosh looked at her with a look that could kill and quite easily thought about what she was going to do next.