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Holly and Hef Split

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11,653
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    Why are his 'girlfriends' always of the orange skinned, peroxide haired type?

    If you're going to bang loads of young women then wouldn't you want a bit of variety?

    It's always puzzled me :o
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    xChErRy-DrOpSxxChErRy-DrOpSx Posts: 4,009
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    PMSL! it was never flippin meant to be!
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    C14EC14E Posts: 32,165
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    It might sound daft but I always thought maybe he'd stick with these girls til the end, he's over 80 now and I always thought maybe a last little daft thing in his life would be to marry Holly and maybe a baby (maybe they were trying?). Does he have kids already?

    He has 4 children, 2 from each of his marriages. According to Wiki, he still isn't technically divorced from Kimberley Conrad, despite having split with her 10 years ago.

    Just reading about him there, he really is a fascinating guy, but I've never quite known what to make of him. If he were British, he would probably be described as an "eccentric"! (although the "no sex please, we're British" brigade might have other words!) Isn't there a film being made about him just now?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,393
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    Those women have no self respect; it's sickening the way they carry on, like feminism never existed and as for him; stupid old goat.
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    crystal_methcrystal_meth Posts: 8,379
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    True. But I still feel uncomfortable about condoning prostitution - doesn't matter whether it's young girls sold for sex or 'high class' escort work - you're still selling your body for sex. Oldest profession in the world and all that.

    Interesting what you say about Hef's intelligence. He always seems a little simple to me. Could be his age though maybe - in terms of his reactions being a bit slower. (I'm not saying old people are simple before anyone starts):D

    Yeh I always thought he seemed bit daft but if you ever notice in any of his shows where he's hosting a party, doing a PR job, or entertaining his contemporaries (god forbid, some MEN), he seems very animated, very good with interpersonal skills and highly effective. I think he's probly bored shitless with them girls underneath it all. Maybe the reason he doesn't want kids with Holly is cos he doesn't actually respect her and it's too late for him to be an effective father. Imagine bringing a child into the world knowing it would be mothered by a clingy prostitute and that you will probably die before it hits 10 years old. A horrible thing to do.
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    crystal_methcrystal_meth Posts: 8,379
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    Soulmate9 wrote: »
    Spending money?? Don't say that they're given spending money, please?? :eek:

    They get loadsa dosh, they're on a payroll, and they get freebies by the truck load - including the truck.
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    crystal_methcrystal_meth Posts: 8,379
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    C14E wrote: »
    He has 4 children, 2 from each of his marriages. According to Wiki, he still isn't technically divorced from Kimberley Conrad, despite having split with her 10 years ago.

    Just reading about him there, he really is a fascinating guy, but I've never quite known what to make of him. If he were British, he would probably be described as an "eccentric"! (although the "no sex please, we're British" brigade might have other words!) Isn't there a film being made about him just now?

    That's interesting to know. No matter what anyone thinks of his ethics he certainly is eccentric and was his own 'brand' a long time before the ad execs came up with the notion.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 427
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    I don't understand how anyone could see Hef as simple, he's built one of the most sucessful business empires in the world. If he was simple he would have married numerous times and as a result be paying millions in alimony and child support by now. Controlling maybe but simple never!
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,002
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    Why are his 'girlfriends' always of the orange skinned, peroxide haired type?

    If you're going to bang loads of young women then wouldn't you want a bit of variety?

    It's always puzzled me :o

    Maybe that's the look that he's attracted to. Lots of men/women have a type, a certain physical appearance/look that attracts them. I don't see anything strange about it.

    Not surprising Hef has found new girlfriends so soon. He has an image to uphold and there are thousands of young girls willing to become involved with an old man in order to become famous. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a contract involved.

    On another note, Hef said that he and Holly tried to have a baby earlier this year, but he is unable to father children because of his low sperm count (not surprising at his age.) I guess Holly really wants marriage and children.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 241
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    Wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that he is facing bankruptcy!

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/a132365/hugh-hefner-facing-bankruptcy.html
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    Resident EvilResident Evil Posts: 639
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    The girlfriends are a front anyway since he's a well known viewer of gay porn, numerous playmates have mentioned this. Just typical! the man surrounded by playmates is a closeted homosexual
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    The PrumeisterThe Prumeister Posts: 22,398
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    BilliY wrote: »
    I don't understand how anyone could see Hef as simple, he's built one of the most sucessful business empires in the world. If he was simple he would have married numerous times and as a result be paying millions in alimony and child support by now. Controlling maybe but simple never!



    True - but I was talking more about his day to day interactions - he does seem a bit dim:D
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 427
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    True - but I was talking more about his day to day interactions - he does seem a bit dim:D




    As far as i can see he is dumbing down to be on a level with the person he is interracting with. It's a common thing socially or business wise to adapt your language to suit the perople you are interracting with. On the shows I've seen you never see any real conversations with his older friends or his brother because the show is primarily about the girls;however; you see that he always has his brother and his long group of associates at social events showing a need for mature company and perhaps more serious conversation. I can imagine if you had to put up with Holly & Bridgets baby act 24/7 you would have to have a normal support group with whom you can act like a normal human being
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,179
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    i've just read holly is "28", pmsl, i would of put at least 10 years on that, if she is just 28 then by god she looks rough for it, lol, and i always thought she was older than bridgette who i read was 35!
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    sheddy99sheddy99 Posts: 5,760
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    They get loadsa dosh, they're on a payroll, and they get freebies by the truck load - including the truck.

    They may get freebies by the truckload but they're not on the payroll as you put it.
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    crystal_methcrystal_meth Posts: 8,379
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    N1kk1 wrote: »
    Wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that he is facing bankruptcy!

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/a132365/hugh-hefner-facing-bankruptcy.html

    His share price falling is meaningless other that it represents that his shareholders will get less of a profit dividend payout. It doesn't mean he is personally going bankrupt. I am sure that Hef is wealthy enough not to give a stuff and his personal assets are untouchable. These so called 'entrepreneurs' and 'business geniuses' are not stupid enough to put their own money on the line. Plus, he pays out so much money to these hundreds of girls that surround him - don't forget there is all the 'Playgirls' and 'Playmates' and Bunnies and Calendar girls and lord knows who else on the payroll who get houses and cars and staff etc as well. He probably enjoys indulging them but when times are tuff, the belt gets tightened.
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    crystal_methcrystal_meth Posts: 8,379
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    i've just read holly is "28", pmsl, i would of put at least 10 years on that, if she is just 28 then by god she looks rough for it, lol, and i always thought she was older than bridgette who i read was 35!

    I was shocked when Kendra had her 20th birthday (or was it 21st) as thought she was bit older due to her personality. I don't think Holly looks over 30, its just all that harsh bleach and heavy make-up not doing her any favours. As for Brigitte, jeez I can't get her at all, she just looks frumpy late 30s / early 40s and is so mis-matched to the 'usual' types.
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    crystal_methcrystal_meth Posts: 8,379
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    sheddy99 wrote: »
    They may get freebies by the truckload but they're not on the payroll as you put it.

    They must be surely? They have an income because they go out and spend it regularly - for example Kendra saved her money and bought a 'condo' apartment as an investment and paid for her mum's plastic surgery. Brigitte paid her way through uni. Holly bought a high end brand new sports car and a very rare type of parrot for thousands of dollars for Hef's birthday. These weren't 'gifts' and their families aren't wealthy so they must get a salary. Leastways, they must get paid a lot for posing in Playboy and doing Playboy appearances at events etc but they don't feature in Playboy that often. Also, Holly def gets paid for doing features and photoshoots for the mag. I was under the impression they are paid to live at the house. Maybe I'm mistaken?
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    The PrumeisterThe Prumeister Posts: 22,398
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    They must be surely? They have an income because they go out and spend it regularly - for example Kendra saved her money and bought a 'condo' apartment as an investment and paid for her mum's plastic surgery. Brigitte paid her way through uni. Holly bought a high end brand new sports car and a very rare type of parrot for thousands of dollars for Hef's birthday. These weren't 'gifts' and their families aren't wealthy so they must get a salary. Leastways, they must get paid a lot for posing in Playboy and doing Playboy appearances at events etc but they don't feature in Playboy that often. Also, Holly def gets paid for doing features and photoshoots for the mag. I was under the impression they are paid to live at the house. Maybe I'm mistaken?



    I think so too:confused:
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    sheddy99sheddy99 Posts: 5,760
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    A lot of the stuff they get is given to them free for publicity. Other stuff is paid for by numerous modelling and endorsements - remember they did an excercise video. Bridget was on the show posing for a car magazine. Kendra did a muscle magazine cover shoot.
    They do a lot of modelling and work that isn't shown.
    This article quotes a playboy staff member:
    Are financial woes the real reasons behind Hef's break ups with Holly and Kendra?

    Reportedly teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, Hef has not only been forced to cut back on staffing, but now, in a bid to rake in some extra income, the public is being invited to the exclusive Playboy Mansion parties…at $5,000 to $25,000 a ticket. If there's a hot celebrity on the guest list, expect a ticket in the higher range!

    The Mansion has long since been available to rent for corporate events, but this is the first time that anyone can pay to take a dip in the infamous Grotto, where clothing doesn't stay on for long.

    What people don't know is that Hugh Hefner himself does not own the mansion - his company does. And yes, he pays rent on it. About $700,000 a year.

    Not untouched by a waning national economy, Hef's stocks have plunged to a third of what they were worth a year ago.

    So are the Bunnies included in that staffing cut? Has all the gold been dug?

    Martha Lindeman, Playboy Enterprises’ senior vice president, said otherwise, of course. Apparently the Bunnies "are not even on the payroll. So, they would be the last to go."

    Unless they're heading out on their own accord.

    Poor poor Puffin.
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    crystal_methcrystal_meth Posts: 8,379
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    sheddy99 wrote: »
    A lot of the stuff they get is given to them free for publicity. Other stuff is paid for by numerous modelling and endorsements - remember they did an excercise video. Bridget was on the show posing for a car magazine. Kendra did a muscle magazine cover shoot.
    They do a lot of modelling and work that isn't shown.
    This article quotes a playboy staff member:

    Oooh that was an interesting article. I thought he owned the house cos in one episode his ex-long time partner (wife?) came to visit and she said she always felt like it was her home because she helped him choose it and it was said in a way like they bought and furnished it together. Also, there is a second house where the Playmates etc live cos on some episodes the girls invite them over from the 'other' house to join social events. Not that I watch the show a lot or anything............

    I'm sure Hef will always be well looked after, I'll bet he has a personal stash and if it's true he doesn't own the house this is further evidence that his entire lifestyle is funded by his 'company' / brand, of which no doubt he is managing director on a ridiculous salary. If the company goes down then his personal accumulated assets (whatever they may be) will remain untouched altho he will lose his salary. He is obligated to be seen to save money in order to represent his shareholder's best interests. I think having your own jet, pilot, personal zoo and keepers, chefs, housekeepers, security, swimming pools, etc, are probably very expensive let alone the cost of the girls. Hence they jump ship. They were already skilling up for alternative futures anyway.

    Seems from recent UK news there are people on Housing Benefit getting about the same amount of rent as he pays for that mansion!
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    sheddy99 wrote: »
    They may get freebies by the truckload but they're not on the payroll as you put it.

    I wouldn't refer to it as on the payroll but they do get about £1000 a week pocket money, most of what they buy is probably billed to the mansion so if they have any sense they've been investing it wisely.
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    Ja'mie KingJa'mie King Posts: 8,445
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    It's funny, I'm a hardcore feminist and used to hate the whole playboy ethos but since watching the show I grew quite 'fond' of their dynamic. It's blatant Hef isn't pressurising the girls for sex - there's probably very little actual sex going on and maybe he isn't even 'up' for the job anyway. He keeps the girls safe and helps their careers broaden other than by just posing nude, pays them plenty and helps their families. The playboy girls are the more 'healthy' side of the sex industry these days - celebrating healthy, well-built young women and their bodies (shame about the boob jobs tho), as opposed to the modelling industry and the porn industry which are just disgusting by comparison.

    What I hate most about Playboy now is the branding. I am horrified that the 'Bunny' branded goods are for sale in the 'young teen / girl' section of Argos catalogue. I dunno who is at fault here - Argos or Playboy - but this clobber used to be aimed at sexy women in the same way as say Anne Summers who fancied themselves as a bit hot, not 11 year olds.

    Completely agree with your second paragraph.
    Nothing makes me roll my eyes more than seeing some bimbo with playboy crap. Shows what little understanding they have of the real world.
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    SiebenburgenSiebenburgen Posts: 3,002
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    The Playboy Mansion is one place I'd LOVE to visit hehe :o
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 387
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    it is rumoured that Holly was having an affair with some guy and also Hef is considering hooking up with some twins that featured on the playboy cover earlier this year
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