Why is it always re Matt v Beth in Final?
Cosya
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Surely should be Matt v Gareth,
Gareth is far the better skater than Beth, His routines are much better. No discredit for Beth but being Olympian shouldnt just give her automatic final place.
Nor does it always have to be a man v woman final!!
Gareth is far the better skater than Beth, His routines are much better. No discredit for Beth but being Olympian shouldnt just give her automatic final place.
Nor does it always have to be a man v woman final!!
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Personally I think Beth is much better than Gareth.
I think Beth is better than Gareth and is actually being undermarked by the judges for whatever reason and IMO Matt is being massively overmarked by them. Personally I think final 2 should be Gareth and Beth.
Beth has shown in the solo skating week just how capable she actually is and I think the judges are being rather too harsh on her for whatever reason in particular Robin and Jason.
I think there is a little plan for Beth. If she goes through to next week, I think she will have a very romantic skate without all the tricks showing that she can do it, and the judges will say "that is what we have been waiting for, and you deserve your place in the final" !! - just my thoughts like I say!!!
Matt's routine tonight was by far the weakest. There's so many risks he could have taken with his prop just like we've seen in previous series with the hat, yet he didn't do anything with it. Massively overmarked but I can't say I'm surprised by that.
What do you mean by his routines being better? He doesn't choreograph them. I mean you make it sound as though it's just that - better routines. If you mean he skates better that's a different matter.
I was thinking along similar lines when I saw the marks tonight (I didn't actually see Beth skate).
He seems to get into them more than what Beth does. I know they get given them but He performs them better. I agree with Jason, as much as I like Beth she doesnt put personality into her routines.
Plus yes I believe Gareth skates better than Beth
Exactly she has transfered her skills in gymnastics to the ice, she was able to do beautiful spins, has get limb extention and she is capable of skating solo. She is at a different level because many of the skill the other have had to learn, she has already learnt but they not being should because of stupid gimmicky stunts. She is also fearless with lifts because she has natural body control. And she is used to performing routines, practicing again and again, to being coached and listening. It seems they are holding her back because she is so far ahead of the others in her skills.
Me too at this point in time.
I fail to see any charm or charisma about Matt and/or Gareth that would invoke my support.
Just because she is not loud and OTT does not mean she does not have a personality I would take her quieter personality over the apparent cockiness of Matt anyday.
I think people are mistaking the hyperness of the performers over the years for personality IMO that is not real personality. Beth's sense of humour and personality tends to show through in her tweets and I think she is just a quieter, slightly more reserved person which is perhaps understandable given she has spent the biggest part of her life competing in a solo sport where there is not generally a great deal of media interest to have to be responsive too. Louis was quieter in SCD as well and he went onto win so hopefully Beth can do the same.
Good job it isn't a personality contest then...oh, hang on...;)
Excellent post. Team Beth for me too:)
I'd prefer a Gareth v Beth final because they're my favourites but I can appreciate that Matt probably should be there.
I thought it was brill! The hat is SO easy to drop; I'd say it's the most difficult prop by far. You can't do anything 'fancy' with it, like sitting in/on it;you have to rely on solid skating and Matt did that easily. So much solo skating!
I thought Gareth made very little use of the ball - didn't do anything with it really and I found it a dull routine.
I agree that Beth, Matt and Gareth should be the finalists with either Beth or Matt to win. I think Matt is the better skater but next week's flying is likely to favour Beth massively.