Looking at the above link again, putting that together with the Jack FM website info I pointed out last weekend, Capital operates in most of the areas involved. So it would make sense to make sell Capital outside London (which may explain the Jack FM website info) and keeping Real and Smooth everywhere except North Wales.
Real would become Heart in all areas where Real exists except North Wales
For North Wales, they could sell the Marcher Group, keep Real and change THAT to Heart.
If this scanario is right,
Jack FM would be on the Marcher stations if it is Jack that buys it
Heart would move to replace Real in all areas so it would get a wider coverage area
Smooth would continue in all areas
Given the plan is apparently to bring back local breakfast shows around the country on Smooth, I doubt they would want to sell them. The above looks like the likely scanario but I am ony guessing of course. What does everyone think?
So it would make sense to make sell Capital outside London (which may explain the Jack FM website info)
There would have to be a large analogue format change consultation from a 15-34 youth hits station to an over 35s classic rock and pop station.
But does mean Capital can stay as Capital on FM in London and Birmingham, then with Capital and Capital xtra nationally as digital stations, perhaps picking up regional listeners from FM, and boosting DAB which will help the format change?
Will cost a Jack collation a lot of money, say around £30m to raise?
Given the plan is apparently to bring back local breakfast shows around the country on Smooth, I doubt they would want to sell them. The above looks like the likely scanario but I am ony guessing of course. What does everyone think?
The only way that local breakfast shows would return to Smooth is if someone else owns them (and operates them under the Smooth franchise). Global wouldn't be required to do any local programming if they owned them (because the station is on D1).
Nothing has been confirmed yet and it's just speculation, but it's likely that a new company will operate Smooth in the North West, North East & East Midlands and they will be forced to do the same as the Glasgow station (local breakfast & afternoon & local news bulletins all day).
The two poor performing Capitals are Cardiff & central Scotland and these are the ones that will probably be offloaded, with Manchester , North East & Yorkshire being retained.
The only way that local breakfast shows would return to Smooth is if someone else owns them (and operates them under the Smooth franchise). Global wouldn't be required to do any local programming if they owned them (because the station is on D1).
Nothing has been confirmed yet and it's just speculation, but it's likely that a new company will operate Smooth in the North West, North East & East Midlands and they will be forced to do the same as the Glasgow station (local breakfast & afternoon & local news bulletins all day).
The two poor performing Capitals are Cardiff & central Scotland and these are the ones that will probably be offloaded, with Manchester , North East & Yorkshire being retained.
But then don't forget that Jack could potentially be franchised on XS, both in Scotland and Manchester with the possibility of Real Yorkshire and Heart North West (current one). Heart Cymu would be an interesting one, if it was Jacked.
I wouldn't rule out Capital being franchised yet, as it is down to the new owners who may express to expand their own brands or not. UTV wouldn't franchise them as they have Juice and they were under Bauer's original bid for both Smooth and Real.
Real XS Scotland is most likely to be sold alongside Capital Scotland for a fair price, as I wouldn't see Global expanding The Arrow, because of the similarities it has(musically) with XFM. (and you all know how that went down in Scotland). Capital Xtra could be possible, but without it's main station on 105-106, it seems pointless to do that. (Not forgetting local breakfast and drive). So Franchising Jack seems sensible to do, then it can compete with other Rock orientated stations. (that's if they still want to pair up Glasgow 's 96.3 with Manchester)
i honestly think UTV are interested in expanding Juice FM (Capital) and Signal (Heart or Real). But only time will tell if they get their hands on the offloads.
I wouldn't see Global expanding The Arrow, because of the similarities it has(musically) with XFM. (and you all know how that went down in Scotland)
Although XFM was modern rock which seems currently out of favour, but might return to the charts? Real XS, Arrow and Jack are classic rock stations which seem to be in favour. Sometime Global may restart the Arrow brand rather than let others take the potential audience, if Global don't sell RealXS then Global actually franchising Jack in Scotland, Manchester and maybe replacing Arrow on DAB in London is another interesting possibility, we shall see?
Although XFM was modern rock which seems currently out of favour, but might return to the charts? Real XS, Arrow and Jack are classic rock stations which seem to be in favour. Sometime Global may restart the Arrow brand rather than let others take the potential audience, if Global don't sell RealXS then Global actually franchising Jack in Scotland, Manchester and maybe replacing Arrow on DAB in London is another interesting possibility, we shall see?
They could franchise Jack itself, replacing The Arrow itself?
. Heart Cymu would be an interesting one, if it was Jacked.
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Catchy strapline. (Also inaccurate as presumably they'd be playing what they want apart from a proportion of Welsh language music prescribed by Ofcom )
So, there's a good chance of Capital disappearing from South Wales before the sound processing gets sorted out? It's been on the air for over three years, but still only dogs can hear it properly. ;-)
So, there's a good chance of Capital disappearing from South Wales before the sound processing gets sorted out? It's been on the air for over three years, but still only dogs can hear it properly. ;-)
Not forgetting Scotland! Fingers crossed that it won't be franchised!
Personally I think Capital would be a loss in central Scotland. It offers a clear-cut alternative to the other commercial stations - it is all about current hit music, occasionally breaking it, in comparison to Clyde (recent songs and recurrents) and Real (MOR) and Smooth (older). I know that wouldn't be the feeling in other areas where it has taken over the heritage station, and I fully understand that, but I can't see who could take it over and actually make a profit from it. The frequency only makes sense as part of a bigger, national operation to show a station's scale.
Personally I think Capital would be a loss in central Scotland. It offers a clear-cut alternative to the other commercial stations - it is all about current hit music, occasionally breaking it, in comparison to Clyde (recent songs and recurrents) and Real (MOR) and Smooth (older). I know that wouldn't be the feeling in other areas where it has taken over the heritage station, and I fully understand that, but I can't see who could take it over and actually make a profit from it. The frequency only makes sense as part of a bigger, national operation to show a station's scale.
How would you think that it would be a loss to Global and Central Scotland if it went off only on FM?
Do remember that you have other potential replacements such as JUICE FM (UTV) that could take on the frequency and make a fair profit from it. Remember that Juice itself has had a rough history in liverpool until UTV bought it from Absolute. Plus Scotland had Galaxy FM and Juice itself is not that far from it!
UTV 'as stated before' showed interest in coming back to scotland when bidding for Real/Smooth ltd.
Perhaps a bit of a wildcard: UTV buy Capital Scotland, but continue to operate it as Capital FM under a franchise agreement.
Under the same deal Juice FM Liverpool also becomes Capital.
Surprised no-one has suggested this one already.
Liverpool would have to opt out on Friday/Saturday night, for all the local dance DJs like Anton Powers who they've just stole back from Radio City. I don't think Marvin's commercial club mixes on Capital would go down well in Liverpool..
Liverpool would have to opt out on Friday/Saturday night, for all the local dance DJs like Anton Powers who they've just stole back from Radio City. I don't think Marvin's commercial club mixes on Capital would go down well in Liverpool..
Thing is, would Juice FM Scotland network with Liverpool or provide its own specialist output on both Friday and Saturday night?
Seriously though, I am expecting Capital Yorkshire being sold and Real Radio Yorkshire becoming Heart Yorkshire. If UTV get the 105 licence then Juice will suit it.
Seriously though, I am expecting Capital Yorkshire being sold and Real Radio Yorkshire becoming Heart Yorkshire. If UTV get the 105 licence then Juice will suit it.
I doubt that it would happen, but I do agree.. It would suit Juice FM 100% and could possibly see the return of some Ex-Galaxy FM DJs. But will UTV be allowed to own it alongside with The Pulse?
Simon Hirst has a show on Gold. Would UTV allow him to work for their rivals?
I doubt that it would happen, but I do agree.. It would suit Juice FM 100% and could possibly see the return of some Ex-Galaxy FM DJs. But will UTV be allowed to own it alongside with The Pulse?
Simon Hirst has a show on Gold. Would UTV allow him to work for their rivals?
Probably, but they wouldn't be allowed to share programmes between The Pulse and Juice. Simon Hirst would have to choose whether to stay and present his Breakfast show with Jojo and the other one, can't remember his name or to up sticks and work for Global, this will depend on what contract is given I think.
Probably, but they wouldn't be allowed to share programmes between The Pulse and Juice. Simon Hirst would have to choose whether to stay and present his Breakfast show with Jojo and the other one, can't remember his name or to up sticks and work for Global, this will depend on what contract is given I think.
I think as long as it's not within the TSA of the station, then it should be alright. But I will be surprised if Global sells Capital Yorkshire and keeps Real altogether. For Galaxy 105 sake, I hope Global ditches it and Scotland to help relax their specialist output. I wouldn't think it would be the end of the world if some Capitals were sold on fully, DAB 2 is launching at some point this year and no doubt Global would want Capital FM London to go nationally. Making it possible for them to ditch all remaining local programming and yet broadcast into new areas that haven't been 'capitalised' on FM.
If the DAB situation was were it was a few years ago, then Global would 100% for sure franchise every FM station that's currently in danger of being rebranded/sold on. Nowadays you can get Dab in brand new car.
Probably, but they wouldn't be allowed to share programmes between The Pulse and Juice. Simon Hirst would have to choose whether to stay and present his Breakfast show with Jojo and the other one, can't remember his name or to up sticks and work for Global, this will depend on what contract is given I think.
I think the bigger question would be if this were to happen is would UTV pay Hirstys show fee? UTV have some ok talent on there books hut none of them would be particularly expensive certainly not commanding the type of show fees that Simon would. It would be a tough one for them i reckon, he delivers good figures but would they stump up that large of a fee ?
There current flagship stations Signal and Juice's breakfast cost put together still wouldn't be as big as Hristy, Danny and Jo Jo.
I think the bigger question would be if this were to happen is would UTV pay Hirstys show fee? UTV have some ok talent on there books hut none of them would be particularly expensive certainly not commanding the type of show fees that Simon would. It would be a tough one for them i reckon, he delivers good figures but would they stump up that large of a fee ?
There current flagship stations Signal and Juice's breakfast cost put together still wouldn't be as big as Hristy, Danny and Jo Jo.
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Real would become Heart in all areas where Real exists except North Wales
For North Wales, they could sell the Marcher Group, keep Real and change THAT to Heart.
If this scanario is right,
Jack FM would be on the Marcher stations if it is Jack that buys it
Heart would move to replace Real in all areas so it would get a wider coverage area
Smooth would continue in all areas
Given the plan is apparently to bring back local breakfast shows around the country on Smooth, I doubt they would want to sell them. The above looks like the likely scanario but I am ony guessing of course. What does everyone think?
But does mean Capital can stay as Capital on FM in London and Birmingham, then with Capital and Capital xtra nationally as digital stations, perhaps picking up regional listeners from FM, and boosting DAB which will help the format change?
Will cost a Jack collation a lot of money, say around £30m to raise?
The only way that local breakfast shows would return to Smooth is if someone else owns them (and operates them under the Smooth franchise). Global wouldn't be required to do any local programming if they owned them (because the station is on D1).
Nothing has been confirmed yet and it's just speculation, but it's likely that a new company will operate Smooth in the North West, North East & East Midlands and they will be forced to do the same as the Glasgow station (local breakfast & afternoon & local news bulletins all day).
The two poor performing Capitals are Cardiff & central Scotland and these are the ones that will probably be offloaded, with Manchester , North East & Yorkshire being retained.
But then don't forget that Jack could potentially be franchised on XS, both in Scotland and Manchester with the possibility of Real Yorkshire and Heart North West (current one). Heart Cymu would be an interesting one, if it was Jacked.
I wouldn't rule out Capital being franchised yet, as it is down to the new owners who may express to expand their own brands or not. UTV wouldn't franchise them as they have Juice and they were under Bauer's original bid for both Smooth and Real.
Real XS Scotland is most likely to be sold alongside Capital Scotland for a fair price, as I wouldn't see Global expanding The Arrow, because of the similarities it has(musically) with XFM. (and you all know how that went down in Scotland). Capital Xtra could be possible, but without it's main station on 105-106, it seems pointless to do that. (Not forgetting local breakfast and drive). So Franchising Jack seems sensible to do, then it can compete with other Rock orientated stations. (that's if they still want to pair up Glasgow 's 96.3 with Manchester)
i honestly think UTV are interested in expanding Juice FM (Capital) and Signal (Heart or Real). But only time will tell if they get their hands on the offloads.
They could franchise Jack itself, replacing The Arrow itself?
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Catchy strapline. (Also inaccurate as presumably they'd be playing what they want apart from a proportion of Welsh language music prescribed by Ofcom
Not forgetting Scotland! Fingers crossed that it won't be franchised!
could sell it off completely and still keep capital on dab here in
Scotland.
Playing on what we are going to...?
Don't ever use Google translate for Welsh. It doesn't work. See: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7702913.stm
How would you think that it would be a loss to Global and Central Scotland if it went off only on FM?
Do remember that you have other potential replacements such as JUICE FM (UTV) that could take on the frequency and make a fair profit from it. Remember that Juice itself has had a rough history in liverpool until UTV bought it from Absolute. Plus Scotland had Galaxy FM and Juice itself is not that far from it!
UTV 'as stated before' showed interest in coming back to scotland when bidding for Real/Smooth ltd.
Under the same deal Juice FM Liverpool also becomes Capital.
Surprised no-one has suggested this one already.
Liverpool would have to opt out on Friday/Saturday night, for all the local dance DJs like Anton Powers who they've just stole back from Radio City. I don't think Marvin's commercial club mixes on Capital would go down well in Liverpool..
Thing is, would Juice FM Scotland network with Liverpool or provide its own specialist output on both Friday and Saturday night?
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Seriously though, I am expecting Capital Yorkshire being sold and Real Radio Yorkshire becoming Heart Yorkshire. If UTV get the 105 licence then Juice will suit it.
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I doubt that it would happen, but I do agree.. It would suit Juice FM 100% and could possibly see the return of some Ex-Galaxy FM DJs. But will UTV be allowed to own it alongside with The Pulse?
Simon Hirst has a show on Gold. Would UTV allow him to work for their rivals?
Oh please, yes! My dream scenario!
When It's already doing well? You'd be lucky if the current Heart Wales merges with Capital South Wales under franchise agreement as Capital Wales.
Probably, but they wouldn't be allowed to share programmes between The Pulse and Juice. Simon Hirst would have to choose whether to stay and present his Breakfast show with Jojo and the other one, can't remember his name or to up sticks and work for Global, this will depend on what contract is given I think.
I think as long as it's not within the TSA of the station, then it should be alright. But I will be surprised if Global sells Capital Yorkshire and keeps Real altogether. For Galaxy 105 sake, I hope Global ditches it and Scotland to help relax their specialist output. I wouldn't think it would be the end of the world if some Capitals were sold on fully, DAB 2 is launching at some point this year and no doubt Global would want Capital FM London to go nationally. Making it possible for them to ditch all remaining local programming and yet broadcast into new areas that haven't been 'capitalised' on FM.
If the DAB situation was were it was a few years ago, then Global would 100% for sure franchise every FM station that's currently in danger of being rebranded/sold on. Nowadays you can get Dab in brand new car.
I think the bigger question would be if this were to happen is would UTV pay Hirstys show fee? UTV have some ok talent on there books hut none of them would be particularly expensive certainly not commanding the type of show fees that Simon would. It would be a tough one for them i reckon, he delivers good figures but would they stump up that large of a fee ?
There current flagship stations Signal and Juice's breakfast cost put together still wouldn't be as big as Hristy, Danny and Jo Jo.
What about the jocks on Talksport?