Gary Glitter - Guilty

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  • bryemycazbryemycaz Posts: 11,735
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    What the f*** was Britain's most famous nonce doing amongst other prisoners? Surely that's a huge security lapse?:o

    He's on a Sex Offenders wing but a long term prisoner also on that wing took exception to him being there. Well he is probably just as bad as him. However thinks hes a hard man, nothing to be celebrated or congratulated for.
  • be more pacificbe more pacific Posts: 19,061
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    bryemycaz wrote: »
    He's on a Sex Offenders wing but a long term prisoner also on that wing took exception to him being there. Well he is probably just as bad as him. However thinks hes a hard man, nothing to be celebrated or congratulated for.
    "How dare they put that Gadd nonce amongst us good honest rapists?!"
  • soundchecksoundcheck Posts: 351
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    "How dare they put that Gadd nonce amongst us good honest rapists?!"

    Strange as it may seem, there is a fairly rigid lowerarchy of notoriety amongst sex offenders. Rapists are low, rapists of under 16's are lower, and rapists of under 13's are lower still. But the very bottom of the pile is reserved for those who drug their victims. They really are utterly despised.

    (My partner is a prison officer, and I'm a trainee solicitor.)
  • jioscarjioscar Posts: 1,438
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    Hopefully he will never get out but castrate him and the others anyway >:(
  • dodradedodrade Posts: 23,676
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    soundcheck wrote: »
    Strange as it may seem, there is a fairly rigid lowerarchy of notoriety amongst sex offenders. Rapists are low, rapists of under 16's are lower, and rapists of under 13's are lower still. But the very bottom of the pile is reserved for those who drug their victims. They really are utterly despised.

    (My partner is a prison officer, and I'm a trainee solicitor.)

    I guess everyone needs somebody they can feel superior to.

    Why are those who drug their victims at the bottom? It could be argued that being unconscious spares them at least some trauma compared to other attacks.
  • soundchecksoundcheck Posts: 351
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    dodrade wrote: »
    I guess everyone needs somebody they can feel superior to.

    Why are those who drug their victims at the bottom? It could be argued that being unconscious spares them at least some trauma compared to other attacks.

    Hmm. Wouldn't really like to speculate. But I will, anyway. :D Perhaps they see it as equivalent to "cheating"? Can't charm, dominate, bully or use violence against the victim, so they resort to removing the victim's agency from the equation?
  • Phoenix LazarusPhoenix Lazarus Posts: 17,305
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    So, do we think he's getting life, then?
  • Phoenix LazarusPhoenix Lazarus Posts: 17,305
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    Tomorrow Gary's taking his curtain call.
  • soundchecksoundcheck Posts: 351
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    So, do we think he's getting life, then?

    I think he's going to get something like 16 years: 13 for sexual intercourse with an under 13yo, 8 years for attempted rape, 2 years for each indecent assault. The first sentence will run concurrently with the next 5, which will run consecutively.

    But at his age, that's probably life anyway. He will probably start his prison career in a B Cat "local", where he will be on the vulnerable prisoners' wing for several months, maybe even a couple of years. He may even be in solitary for some time, for his own protection. He will then be eligible to transfer to a C Cat "specialist" prison which has treatment programmes for sex offenders. There are a handful of these. He won't go to one of the "soft" ones, though - they are reserved for sex offenders who have accepted their guilt. Someone who is in denial won't be eligible - and even if he later comes to accept his guilt he will have to go on a waiting list: the "soft" C Cats are full and will always give priority to offenders who have shown remorse and genuinely acknowledged their crimes from the outset. Towards the end of his sentence, usually the last couple of years, he might be transferred to a D Cat "open", but only if i) they think that he isn't a high risk, and ii) they think that there isn't a high risk to him.

    So I'd say he will spend 2 years in a B Cat, 4-6 years in a C Cat, and maybe 2 years in a D Cat. He won't be released until he's 78-79. He is apparently quite frail with heart problems, so there's a reasonable chance that he will be leaving prison in a box.
  • DiamondDollDiamondDoll Posts: 21,460
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    There is something morbidly fascinating about a "Golden Girl" of wholesome family entertainment being the ex-girlfriend of a notorious paedophile.

    Really??? :o
  • MissySmithMissySmith Posts: 492
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    soundcheck wrote: »
    I think he's going to get something like 16 years: 13 for sexual intercourse with an under 13yo, 8 years for attempted rape, 2 years for each indecent assault. The first sentence will run concurrently with the next 5, which will run consecutively.

    But at his age, that's probably life anyway. He will probably start his prison career in a B Cat "local", where he will be on the vulnerable prisoners' wing for several months, maybe even a couple of years. He may even be in solitary for some time, for his own protection. He will then be eligible to transfer to a C Cat "specialist" prison which has treatment programmes for sex offenders. There are a handful of these. He won't go to one of the "soft" ones, though - they are reserved for sex offenders who have accepted their guilt. Someone who is in denial won't be eligible - and even if he later comes to accept his guilt he will have to go on a waiting list: the "soft" C Cats are full and will always give priority to offenders who have shown remorse and genuinely acknowledged their crimes from the outset. Towards the end of his sentence, usually the last couple of years, he might be transferred to a D Cat "open", but only if i) they think that he isn't a high risk, and ii) they think that there isn't a high risk to him.

    So I'd say he will spend 2 years in a B Cat, 4-6 years in a C Cat, and maybe 2 years in a D Cat. He won't be released until he's 78-79. He is apparently quite frail with heart problems, so there's a reasonable chance that he will be leaving prison in a box.
    I don't think the accusations are even over yet.
  • soundchecksoundcheck Posts: 351
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    MissySmith wrote: »
    I don't think the accusations are even over yet.

    These ones are. He is due to be sentenced tomorrow for these offences (as fas as I remember anyway). He may also have to stand trial on other offences but that won't delay the start of the sentence for this batch. Same thing with Stuart Hall - he was produced to court for subsequent offences, leading to his effective jail-time being kicked up a notch.
  • Phoenix LazarusPhoenix Lazarus Posts: 17,305
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    Do you think he'll sing, ' Hello, hello, I'm Back Again' as he enters prison?
  • Gusto BruntGusto Brunt Posts: 12,351
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    Let's hope the Judge doesn't give him a lenient sentence of three months. :mad:
  • Phoenix LazarusPhoenix Lazarus Posts: 17,305
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    Let's hope the Judge doesn't give him a lenient sentence of three months. :mad:

    No danger of that, with these crimes.
  • Gusto BruntGusto Brunt Posts: 12,351
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    No danger of that, with these crimes.

    Let's hope so.
  • Phoenix LazarusPhoenix Lazarus Posts: 17,305
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    He's got sixteen years.
  • mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,307
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  • StrmChaserSteveStrmChaserSteve Posts: 2,728
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    soundcheck got it spot on

    He may see freedom again, but that's a long stretch considering he's got health problems
  • DiamondDollDiamondDoll Posts: 21,460
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    He's got sixteen years.

    Good.
    His victims got a life sentence though. :(
  • HotgossipHotgossip Posts: 22,385
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    Hoorah ... Couldn't happen to a nicer bloke!! :D:D

    Bet he won't be singing "I'm the leader of the Gang." :D

    It is good to know that these sickos are finally getting their comeuppance.
  • GoatyGoaty Posts: 7,776
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    Scum.

    And why he got fans at the court??
  • HotgossipHotgossip Posts: 22,385
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    Goaty wrote: »
    Scum.

    And why he got fans at the court??

    Because some people are in denial.
  • Pisces CloudPisces Cloud Posts: 30,239
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    WOW, didn't expect that. Good news, though.
  • jazzydrury3jazzydrury3 Posts: 27,018
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    Said on another thrrad it only seems like yesterday when workers at a branch of PC World in Bristol found pics on a comp he sent in for repair
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