Why are the Saudi rulers not labelled as oppressive dictators by the West?

Rare GrooveRare Groove Posts: 406
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So its okay for the scum Obama and the idiot Cameron backed the cowardly Western media to label Assad a dictator but keep siding with the oppressive Saudi Royals who have been oppressing their citizwns for hundreds of years?

Saudi has one of the worst human rights records but Obama the obomination and his silly side kick Cameron would continue to champion Saudi and fight for regime change in moderate Syria.


In Saudi its illegal for women to vote In Syrian we have women in power

Saudi its illegal to practise any religion bar Islam whereas in Syria where you are free to engage in any religion.

Saudi its illegal for women to driver - In Syria anyone can drive

Saudi its illegal for a woman to have a job or travel alone without the permission of a male Guardian.

And for the real fun bit. When there was a demonstration for democracy neighbouring country in Bahrain. Saudi backed with American and British arms sent in their army and wiped out the protesters. But guess what? The same Saudi/USA/UK are supporting the so called rebels in Syria who say they want democracy. Even though most are foreign jihadist!

Loving the double standards!

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  • Jane Doh!Jane Doh! Posts: 43,307
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    Anyone would think you didn't like Obama.
  • Hayley_babyHayley_baby Posts: 15,825
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    They have Oil.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,986
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    They have nice shiny snake belts round their heads.
  • MargMckMargMck Posts: 24,115
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    They have Oil.

    This ^^^ and loads of money... and they buy the planes and deadly weapons France, US and GB like to sell to the rest of the world... and allow Western military to put bases there.
    Plus they fund horse racing and therefore get to sit next to a smiling Queenie at Ascot.
  • Rare GrooveRare Groove Posts: 406
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    Jane Doh! wrote: »
    Anyone would think you didn't like Obama.

    You seem to have a crush on him
  • David TeeDavid Tee Posts: 22,833
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    They have Oil.

    The one and only correct answer.
  • Sniffle774Sniffle774 Posts: 20,290
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    Because they have something the west wants so they are ok to be friends with. Hypocrisy and double standards are ok if there is profit to be had.
  • JunglistSoldierJunglistSoldier Posts: 472
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    So its okay for the scum Obama and the idiot Cameron backed the cowardly Western media to label Assad a dictator but keep siding with the oppressive Saudi Royals who have been oppressing their citizwns for hundreds of years?

    Saudi has one of the worst human rights records but Obama the obomination and his silly side kick Cameron would continue to champion Saudi and fight for regime change in moderate Syria.


    In Saudi its illegal for women to vote In Syrian we have women in power

    Saudi its illegal to practise any religion bar Islam whereas in Syria where you are free to engage in any religion.

    Saudi its illegal for women to driver - In Syria anyone can drive

    Saudi its illegal for a woman to have a job or travel alone without the permission of a male Guardian.

    And for the real fun bit. When there was a demonstration for democracy neighbouring country in Bahrain. Saudi backed with American and British arms sent in their army and wiped out the protesters. But guess what? The same Saudi/USA/UK are supporting the so called rebels in Syria who say they want democracy. Even though most are foreign jihadist!

    Loving the double standards!

    Oil. What else?
  • Mr PerksMr Perks Posts: 1,159
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    No mention of Saudi Arabia being the origin of the 9/11 terrorists while other, unconnected, countries suffered the repirals. Or of Saudi Arabia being the home of Wahabism, the wellspring of the Islamist threat throughout the Woirld.
    It is only the oil that protects them and the rest of the World desperately needs an alternative to oil or, at least, an alternative, long term source to Saudi Arabia and its allies so we can shed our dependency and do something about the neo-mediaeval outrage that the World has to tolerate.
  • ShaunIOWShaunIOW Posts: 11,320
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    1. They have oil
    2. They buy US and UK arms
    3. They let the US have an airbase there

    The US isn't interested in Syria cause of the people or human rights issues its because the Syrian government is more friendly to Russia than the US - if people and human rights were the reasons for military action then the US would be doing something about Eygpt, Sudan, Zimbabwe, Israel etc
  • AftershowAftershow Posts: 10,021
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    They're our oppressive dictators.
  • BrokenArrowBrokenArrow Posts: 21,665
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    They have Oil.

    Syria has oil, not big fields, but they have oil.
  • smudges dadsmudges dad Posts: 36,989
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    Syria has oil, not big fields, but they have oil.

    And Gulfsands petroleum has been totally buggered by the war in Syria
  • smudges dadsmudges dad Posts: 36,989
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    ShaunIOW wrote: »
    1. They have oil
    2. They buy US and UK arms
    3. They let the US have an airbase there

    The US isn't interested in Syria cause of the people or human rights issues its because the Syrian government is more friendly to Russia than the US - if people and human rights were the reasons for military action then the US would be doing something about Eygpt, Sudan, Zimbabwe, Israel etc

    Put extremely well:)
  • lemonbunlemonbun Posts: 5,371
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    If Saudi goes off, the whole Middle East goes off. We will have limited oil supply and a 3rd World War as Israel will be attacked.

    That's why we keep Saudi onside.
  • AneechikAneechik Posts: 20,208
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    They have oil, and our need for it outranks pretty much everything else.
  • Sniffle774Sniffle774 Posts: 20,290
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    They have Oil.
    MargMck wrote: »
    This ^^^ and loads of money... and they buy the planes and deadly weapons France, US and GB like to sell to the rest of the world... and allow Western military to put bases there.
    Plus they fund horse racing and therefore get to sit next to a smiling Queenie at Ascot.
    David Tee wrote: »
    The one and only correct answer.
    Sniffle774 wrote: »
    Because they have something the west wants so they are ok to be friends with. Hypocrisy and double standards are ok if there is profit to be had.
    Oil. What else?
    Mr Perks wrote: »
    No mention of Saudi Arabia being the origin of the 9/11 terrorists while other, unconnected, countries suffered the repirals. Or of Saudi Arabia being the home of Wahabism, the wellspring of the Islamist threat throughout the Woirld.
    It is only the oil that protects them and the rest of the World desperately needs an alternative to oil or, at least, an alternative, long term source to Saudi Arabia and its allies so we can shed our dependency and do something about the neo-mediaeval outrage that the World has to tolerate.
    ShaunIOW wrote: »
    1. They have oil
    2. They buy US and UK arms
    3. They let the US have an airbase there

    The US isn't interested in Syria cause of the people or human rights issues its because the Syrian government is more friendly to Russia than the US - if people and human rights were the reasons for military action then the US would be doing something about Eygpt, Sudan, Zimbabwe, Israel etc
    Put extremely well:)
    lemonbun wrote: »
    If Saudi goes off, the whole Middle East goes off. We will have limited oil supply and a 3rd World War as Israel will be attacked.

    That's why we keep Saudi onside.
    Aneechik wrote: »
    They have oil, and our need for it outranks pretty much everything else.

    So, reckon that has pretty much answered the OPs question :D
  • HarumphHarumph Posts: 626
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    Syria has oil, not big fields, but they have oil.

    Syria has massive oil and gas reserves up in the North East close to the Iraqi border area.

    Estimated to be the 3rd largest untapped known reserves in the region.

    I speak as an ex employee of a massive multinational company that operated in that area.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 591
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    Harumph wrote: »
    Syria has massive oil and gas reserves up in the North East close to the Iraqi border area.

    Estimated to be the 3rd largest untapped known reserves in the region.

    I speak as an ex employee of a massive multinational company that operated in that area.

    Hence the conflict. Saudis are supporting salafist/wahaabist "uprising", therefore US has to.
    Otherwise 9/11 again. It's that simple.

    A quarter of Saudis are below the poverty line.

    I think the ruling families of the gulf states are mainly dying from crashing high performance cars or morbid obesity. We live on a sick planet.
  • phylo_roadkingphylo_roadking Posts: 21,339
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    Why are the Saudi rulers not labelled as oppressive dictators by the West?


    So its okay for the scum Obama and the idiot Cameron backed the cowardly Western media to label Assad a dictator but keep siding with the oppressive Saudi Royals who have been oppressing their citizwns for hundreds of years?

    Saudi has one of the worst human rights records but Obama the obomination and his silly side kick Cameron would continue to champion Saudi and fight for regime change in moderate Syria.


    In Saudi its illegal for women to vote In Syrian we have women in power

    Saudi its illegal to practise any religion bar Islam whereas in Syria where you are free to engage in any religion.

    Saudi its illegal for women to driver - In Syria anyone can drive

    Saudi its illegal for a woman to have a job or travel alone without the permission of a male Guardian.

    And for the real fun bit. When there was a demonstration for democracy neighbouring country in Bahrain. Saudi backed with American and British arms sent in their army and wiped out the protesters. But guess what? The same Saudi/USA/UK are supporting the so called rebels in Syria who say they want democracy. Even though most are foreign jihadist!

    Loving the double standards!

    "we", eh??? That explains a LOT....

    القزم
  • LyricalisLyricalis Posts: 57,958
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    "we", eh??? That explains a LOT....

    القزم

    Would also explain the anti-Obama rants.
  • johnny_boi_UKjohnny_boi_UK Posts: 3,761
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    Lyricalis wrote: »
    Would also explain the anti-Obama rants.

    How so?

    The saudis wield huge political power simply because they are the largest oil producer in the world. I doubt the "west" actually thinks of them as a friend or ally , merely trade partners.
  • reglipreglip Posts: 5,268
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    Mr Perks wrote: »
    No mention of Saudi Arabia being the origin of the 9/11 terrorists while other, unconnected, countries suffered the repirals. Or of Saudi Arabia being the home of Wahabism, the wellspring of the Islamist threat throughout the Woirld.
    It is only the oil that protects them and the rest of the World desperately needs an alternative to oil or, at least, an alternative, long term source to Saudi Arabia and its allies so we can shed our dependency and do something about the neo-mediaeval outrage that the World has to tolerate.

    Doesnt this tell us that the WOT is a sham and our governments actually support extremist islam to use as a imperialist tool? Nobody in western government actually cared about 9/11 or the media would have been talking about saudi arabia. The fact most funding for extremist preachers in Britain comes from SA. We used al quida as a tool in Libya and now in Syria. Not to mention the funding of it in the first place with 'al quida' translating literally as ' The Database' - as in the database of contacts the USA kept as record of its funding.

    Seems to all point that al queida is a western intelligence front or at the very least a useful tool
  • reglipreglip Posts: 5,268
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    So considering the above i wouldnt say its only about oil but more geo-political strategy
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