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This isn't to do with my autistic flatmate - he's improving now, thanks to the advice you all gave me! :)

This flatmate is quite deaf. I don't know how bad his hearing problem is, but he can't hear you speak unless you're directly in front of him, so I assume he has to lip-read. He's not completely deaf though.

Obviously, we know he's half deaf, so he has to listen to music or watch TV on a much higher volume setting. However, listening to heavy metal music so loud at 3am that I can hear it in my bedroom (it's across and down the hall from his, not close at all) is taking it a bit far. We've asked him to turn it down - it's so loud you can hear it from outside or in other people's flats - but he just won't oblige.

Is this ignorance on our part? We assumed he could use headphones like the rest of us do, but I don't know if his deafness would make that more difficult.

The only reason I'm not in bed right now is that I can hear his television. It's so loud that I can tell he's watching Only Fools and Horses! :D

Just wondering if anyone had any idea on how we could broach the subject with him, because asking him directly to keep the noise down after 12am doesn't seem to have done the trick.

Thank you :)

Edited to add: I know this will sound implausible as people didn't believe me when I said I had an autistic flatmate, let alone a deaf one as well... I don't know why they've put so many disabled students in my flat. 3/8 of us have some form of disability! I assure you I'm not making this up.

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,902
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    I think it would be perfectly in order to ask him to use headphones. Twould be even better if you offered to contribute to a decent pair.

    Otherwise, tell him to sod off and get another flatmate.
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    flakecakeflakecake Posts: 1,849
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    Maybe try pointing out to him that after a certain hour it actually becomes a noise nuisance matter that could end up getting you all evicted if neighbours start complaining about it.

    Its extremely selfish behaviour when headphones offer the perfect solution, or failing that, subtitles at least for the TV.
    Being half deaf does not give him the god given right to keep the neighbourhood awake all night.

    You probably have an anti social behaviour clause in your tenancy agreement so you need to make him aware that his excessive noise is antisocial.

    Maybe ask your landlord to have a quiet word with him before you all get thrown out.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,187
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    For the TV tell him to turn it down and use subtitles at the same time, this sort of can con the brain into "Hearing" the words better.
    As for music well he needs to use headphones and get himself to a hearing test to see if he can use hearing aids.
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    TelevisionUserTelevisionUser Posts: 41,432
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    I think it would be perfectly in order to ask him to use headphones. Twould be even better if you offered to contribute to a decent pair.

    Otherwise, tell him to sod off and get another flatmate.

    I'd suggest the friendly approach initially as above as he may not be fully aware of the impact of his actions on other people. By all means ask if he can use headphones or other amplification methods that won't disturb anyone else.

    If that fails, then it might be time to use the formal dispute resolution/reporting procedures but hopefully it won't come to that. Good luck again, SheepSheepBa!
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    alsmamaalsmama Posts: 4,564
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    Deaf people can't really wear normal hearing aids comfortably (see here) but this same company called Connevans produce all kinds of gadgets to help deaf people hear things without disturbing everyone else. You could always get hold of a leaflet or something from their website and give it to him. You can also get an attachment for ipods that clip onto hearing aids so they can listen to them directly into the hearing aid.

    This problem isn't because he is deaf, it's because he is being selfish as nobody needs to listen to loud music so late at night. That's a much trickier issue to handle than his deafness!!

    Just a little aside about deafness - if someone is deaf it very rarely means they have no hearing - most deaf people have some hearing and they range from moderate to profound ... even profoundly deaf people would hear SOMETHING without their hearing aids (possibly only a pneumatic drill right next to them :D ) otherwise there would be nothing to amplify with a hearing aid. So he sounds like a normal deaf person in terms of his hearing, rather than "half deaf".

    If by any chance you would like more info on dealing with deafness the NDCS website is great (although it is about children it is very good about deafness in general) and so is the RNID site.

    Hope that helps.
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    QTC13QTC13 Posts: 3,566
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    Edited to add: I know this will sound implausible as people didn't believe me when I said I had an autistic flatmate, let alone a deaf one as well... I don't know why they've put so many disabled students in my flat. 3/8 of us have some form of disability! I assure you I'm not making this up.


    Because you seem to be having so many problems dealing with this, could you not ask to be moved? Otherwise people might start having a problem with you seemingly moaning all the time. Might be the easiest solution rather than causing friction getting others to do what you want. Down side is, you could end up with worse flatmates... maybe buy a decent pair of ear plugs;)
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    domedome Posts: 55,878
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    Ever thought of living on your own?
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    QTC13QTC13 Posts: 3,566
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    dome wrote: »
    Ever thought of living on your own?


    They were the words I were looking for! :D
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    whackyracerwhackyracer Posts: 15,786
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    dome wrote: »
    Ever thought of living on your own?

    I think that would be the only thing that would help the OP. Somd people just aren't cut out for sharing.
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    alsmamaalsmama Posts: 4,564
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    To be fair it does sound like the OP has had a bit of a tough selection of flat mates which doesn't necessarily indicate an inability to share! Especially if the rest of the flat mates get on fine.
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    whackyracerwhackyracer Posts: 15,786
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    alsmama wrote: »
    To be fair it does sound like the OP has had a bit of a tough selection of flat mates which doesn't necessarily indicate an inability to share! Especially if the rest of the flat mates get on fine.

    Yes, its odd what a tough selection she has had...
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    caraxcarax Posts: 3,044
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    alsmama wrote: »
    Deaf people can't really wear normal hearing aids comfortably

    Not true.

    OP, talk to him. Does he wear hearing aids? If not, I'd try to persuade him to speak to his GP re a referral to the local audiology clinic. Hearing aids would transform his life; he literally does not know what he's missing.

    Otherwise, as regards the telly, subtitles are the way to go, and as for late night loud music, the same behaviour should be expected of him as of any hearing person. If he tries to play the disability card, give him short shrift.
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    alsmamaalsmama Posts: 4,564
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    carax wrote: »
    Not true.

    OP, talk to him. Does he wear hearing aids? If not, I'd try to persuade him to speak to his GP re a referral to the local audiology clinic. Hearing aids would transform his life; he literally does not know what he's missing.

    Otherwise, as regards the telly, subtitles are the way to go, and as for late night loud music, the same behaviour should be expected of him as of any hearing person. If he tries to play the disability card, give him short shrift.

    Oops sorry did I put hearing aids??? I meant headphones! That's what the link under that was about.

    PS Just read back and I really did say deaf ppl can't wear hearing aids comfortably! I definitely meant headphones ... d'oh!
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    alsmamaalsmama Posts: 4,564
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    Yes, its odd what a tough selection she has had...

    2 people with disabilities out of a flat of 8? Not that astounding.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 977
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    QTC13 wrote: »
    Because you seem to be having so many problems dealing with this, could you not ask to be moved? Otherwise people might start having a problem with you seemingly moaning all the time. Might be the easiest solution rather than causing friction getting others to do what you want. Down side is, you could end up with worse flatmates... maybe buy a decent pair of ear plugs;)

    I never 'moan' about it, so please don't suggest that I do. It's not a case of 'getting others to do what I want', it's a case of everyone in the flat - not just me - being annoyed by this guy who won't shut up at 3am! It's not like I'm making a fuss over nothing and I'm not the only one who has asked him to be quiet.
    dome wrote: »
    Ever thought of living on your own?

    Very droll. I'm in university accommodation.
    I think that would be the only thing that would help the OP. Somd people just aren't cut out for sharing.

    Thanks :rolleyes:. I'm perfectly cut out for sharing, however. I really don't like how you're assuming that it's just me who's annoyed by this :( Everyone else is annoyed too, they just don't have Digital Spy accounts... if they did, they would back me up! Please don't tell me that I am not cut out for sharing when I'm asking for advice on how to improve relations in the flat because at the moment it's very tense and it's not a nice atmosphere to live in, especially when you've only had 4 hours sleep...
    Yes, its odd what a tough selection she has had...

    :rolleyes:
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 977
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    alsmama wrote: »
    Oops sorry did I put hearing aids??? I meant headphones! That's what the link under that was about.

    PS Just read back and I really did say deaf ppl can't wear hearing aids comfortably! I definitely meant headphones ... d'oh!

    OK, thank you! :)
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    The GeekThe Geek Posts: 2,698
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    Just go and complain to your student accommodation office.
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    QTC13QTC13 Posts: 3,566
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    I never 'moan' about it, so please don't suggest that I do. It's not a case of 'getting others to do what I want', it's a case of everyone in the flat - not just me - being annoyed by this guy who won't shut up at 3am! It's not like I'm making a fuss over nothing and I'm not the only one who has asked him to be quiet.



    I think you may have mistook what I said. Sorry if it sounded a bit rude(?). :o
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    richard craniumrichard cranium Posts: 4,388
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    Yes, I've found that people with disabilities are no more selfish and intolerant than the rest of us, in fact, maybe more so, chip on shoulder syndrome.

    I'm deaf, I like playing rock music at 3am, I don't see why I should wear headphones, why don't you wear ear plugs ? [ therefore 20 innocent folk lose half a nights sleep ]

    Myself ? I would threaten extreme violence upon his ass.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 977
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    QTC13 wrote: »
    I think you may have mistook what I said. Sorry if it sounded a bit rude(?). :o

    I'm sorry if I mistook what you said... I'm always doing that. But my point remains valid; it's not just me 'moaning'. :)
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    Enigma77Enigma77 Posts: 357
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    some people won't wake up from the sordid commercialism spewed out by their television and they know how to penetrate further with their idealism. He's autistic right? You could use him treading carefully and maybe you'll win big in the casino.:D:cool:
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