Some men are obviously very threatened by equality, which is what feminists want. It's not about hating men which they wrongly assume, its not about women being better than men it's about us being treated equally and fairly. I don't know why some men have such a problem with that?
Maybe you're confusing men having a problem with people who claim to be feminist in order to behave like a misandrist with men having a problem with equal rights, which I doubt many do.
Surely you can imagine yourself being opposed to certain so-called men's rights activists without opposing the notion of men having rights? If so, then just apply that to a certain type of feminist.
I agree with the one or two posts which have pointed out that some seem to be confused about what the opposite of feminism is. The opposite of feminism can't be misogyny, because the opposite of misogyny is misandry.
And feminism isn't about being anti-male (or shouldn't be), so the direct opposite would have to be a term which describes a belief in equality for men, not a term which describes a hatred of women.
No, that is incorrect. The opposite of feminism is misogyny. The equivalent of misogyny is misandry.
I dunno. "Come on sweet Caroline. Take my hand. Together we can rock and roll". That represents the abdication of patriarchal privilege in favour of an equal society.
I dunno. "Come on sweet Caroline. Take my hand. Together we can rock and roll". That represents the abdication of patriarchal privilege in favour of an equal society.
a) they do not believe in the principle of equal rights on the basis of equality of the sexes.
b) they want to hand back her right to work, to vote, to education etc...
In my eyes there is an issue with perception when a woman actively labels themselves a feminist. The word 'feminist' seems to strike the same chord as 'environmentalist' & draws an association with somebody being a campaigner.
Then, when a lot of people think 'feminist campaigner' they think UK Feminista & the lads mag campaign etc. I can see why some women might want to distance themselves from that bracket.
In my eyes there is an issue with perception when a woman actively labels themselves a feminist. The word 'feminist' seems to strike the same chord as 'environmentalist' & draws an association with somebody being a campaigner.
Then, when a lot of people think 'feminist campaigner' they think UK Feminista & the lads mag campaign etc. I can see why some women might want to distance themselves from that bracket.
Not really, a feminist means to me that simply I expect to be treated equally to a man, despite being confounded every day in this regard.
Are there masculists then? I think there is not yet a need for a masculist, because men are not sufficiently prejudiced against to necessitate the emergence of a masculist. Perhaps that is coming though.
I don't think the gender is the main part of it, perhaps it's more a case of feminists being reformers? There is no male equivalent in the West but who knows what goes on in say the Amazon jungle? There, there might be masculinists, if women have the upper hand in rights? ;-)
I dunno. "Come on sweet Caroline. Take my hand. Together we can rock and roll". That represents the abdication of patriarchal privilege in favour of an equal society.
Lets not go with "Roll Over Lay Down and Let me In" though.
Anyway I thought the opposite of a Feminist was a Sexist.
I'm not threatened by feminists - just annoyed by them. There is no such thing as gender equality. Instead we should be helping men and women get fairness and each side being heard and respected as best as we can together. To prioritise one gender over the other in the Western world is ridiculous.
a) they do not believe in the principle of equal rights on the basis of equality of the sexes.
b) they want to hand back her right to work, to vote, to education etc...
Exactly this.
I consider myself a feminist because I want to be treated equally. Men and women should be on level parring.
Some men are obviously very threatened by equality, which is what feminists want. It's not about hating men which they wrongly assume, its not about women being better than men it's about us being treated equally and fairly. I don't know why some men have such a problem with that?
Some women believe that too. My sister is one of them. She doesn't like feminism because she believes that 'women need their blokes'. Despite me trying to explain that you can have a boyfriend and still believe in equal rights for women. It's also quite a hetro-centric view as not all women are straight.
Women who are anti-feminism baffle me. So they'd be happy with no vote, unequal pay?
The opposite of a feminist would be a misogynist, which isn't at all the same as the male/masculine equivalent, who would presumably be looking out for men's rights in situations where they are at a disadvantage.
Of course, men can be feminists, and women can be whatever the masculine equivalent would be. Just as most people are against racism, regardless of their own ethnic background.
In my eyes there is an issue with perception when a woman actively labels themselves a feminist. The word 'feminist' seems to strike the same chord as 'environmentalist' & draws an association with somebody being a campaigner.
Then, when a lot of people think 'feminist campaigner' they think UK Feminista & the lads mag campaign etc. I can see why some women might want to distance themselves from that bracket.
yeah this, real feminists or people who believe in equality never call themselves 'feminists'. I actually can't recall anyone in real life who i know has ever called themselves a feminist. The only people who seem to use this badge are the radical types who want to ban things like lad mags, page 3, lap dancing clubs, porn etc. These types who tend to reside over on mumsnet, do seem to hate men (unless it's their under the thumb 'white knight' darling husband ). They feel men are stupid and can't be trusted with such things because it leads to them objectifying women, which is total nonsense.
Not really, a feminist means to me that simply I expect to be treated equally to a man, despite being confounded every day in this regard.
Are there masculists then? I think there is not yet a need for a masculist, because men are not sufficiently prejudiced against to necessitate the emergence of a masculist. Perhaps that is coming though.
Surely any degree of prejudice necessitates opposition?
Lets not go with "Roll Over Lay Down and Let me In" though.
Anyway I thought the opposite of a Feminist was a Sexist.
It can't be because "some" feminists are as sexist as its possible to be.
Maybe the "feminist movement" does need to change its name to something more neutral promoting true equality between the sexes.
It does appear from a male perspective that many "feminists" don't strive for equality at all.
Are there masculists then? I think there is not yet a need for a masculist, because men are not sufficiently prejudiced against to necessitate the emergence of a masculist. Perhaps that is coming though.
There might not be as many general "men's rights" movements, but there are some more specific ones such as Father's Rights groups, and organizations in the US dedicated to fighting state-level laws such as the ones they had in many states (and I think still do) whereby only men can be charged with spousal abuse. Even then, I think they tend to be seen more as legal reformers rather than anything comparable to feminists.
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Yeah, because that's usually how it is.
Maybe you're confusing men having a problem with people who claim to be feminist in order to behave like a misandrist with men having a problem with equal rights, which I doubt many do.
Surely you can imagine yourself being opposed to certain so-called men's rights activists without opposing the notion of men having rights? If so, then just apply that to a certain type of feminist.
No, that is incorrect. The opposite of feminism is misogyny. The equivalent of misogyny is misandry.
Well-played, sir!
Glad you agree. ;-)
a) they do not believe in the principle of equal rights on the basis of equality of the sexes.
b) they want to hand back her right to work, to vote, to education etc...
Then, when a lot of people think 'feminist campaigner' they think UK Feminista & the lads mag campaign etc. I can see why some women might want to distance themselves from that bracket.
Not really, a feminist means to me that simply I expect to be treated equally to a man, despite being confounded every day in this regard.
Are there masculists then? I think there is not yet a need for a masculist, because men are not sufficiently prejudiced against to necessitate the emergence of a masculist. Perhaps that is coming though.
I don't think the gender is the main part of it, perhaps it's more a case of feminists being reformers? There is no male equivalent in the West but who knows what goes on in say the Amazon jungle? There, there might be masculinists, if women have the upper hand in rights? ;-)
Lets not go with "Roll Over Lay Down and Let me In" though.
Anyway I thought the opposite of a Feminist was a Sexist.
Decent people fight for equality not for one side or the other...
Exactly this.
I consider myself a feminist because I want to be treated equally. Men and women should be on level parring.
Some women believe that too. My sister is one of them. She doesn't like feminism because she believes that 'women need their blokes'. Despite me trying to explain that you can have a boyfriend and still believe in equal rights for women. It's also quite a hetro-centric view as not all women are straight.
Women who are anti-feminism baffle me. So they'd be happy with no vote, unequal pay?
Mary Berry said she didn't like feminism, and ' I don’t want women’s rights and all that sort of thing…'
http://www.stylist.co.uk/people/lucy-mangan/i-cant-afford-to-be-let-down-by-mary-berry-i-need-her#image-rotator-1
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/mar/31/mary-berry-feminism-joan-bakewell
Feminazis don't want equality.
Of course, men can be feminists, and women can be whatever the masculine equivalent would be. Just as most people are against racism, regardless of their own ethnic background.
yeah this, real feminists or people who believe in equality never call themselves 'feminists'. I actually can't recall anyone in real life who i know has ever called themselves a feminist. The only people who seem to use this badge are the radical types who want to ban things like lad mags, page 3, lap dancing clubs, porn etc. These types who tend to reside over on mumsnet, do seem to hate men (unless it's their under the thumb 'white knight' darling husband
Surely any degree of prejudice necessitates opposition?
It can't be because "some" feminists are as sexist as its possible to be.
Maybe the "feminist movement" does need to change its name to something more neutral promoting true equality between the sexes.
It does appear from a male perspective that many "feminists" don't strive for equality at all.
There might not be as many general "men's rights" movements, but there are some more specific ones such as Father's Rights groups, and organizations in the US dedicated to fighting state-level laws such as the ones they had in many states (and I think still do) whereby only men can be charged with spousal abuse. Even then, I think they tend to be seen more as legal reformers rather than anything comparable to feminists.