UK to have Europe's "best broadband network"

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Every community in the UK will gain access to super-fast broadband by 2015 under plans outlined today.

The private sector is to deliver broadband to two thirds of the UK. Other, mainly rural, areas will receive public funds to build a "digital hub" with a fibre optic internet connection.

Ministers say they aim for the UK to have Europe's best broadband network.

This will create "hundreds of thousands of jobs and add billions to our GDP", says Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt.

The government has earmarked £830m for the scheme, with some of this money coming from funds given to the BBC to fund the switch to digital TV.

Mr Hunt says the strategy will give the country Europe's best broadband network by 2015 and will be central to economic growth and the delivery of future public services, dependent on quick, reliable access to the internet.

He added that wider access to broadband services also helped "build a fairer and more prosperous society", as well as "saving billions of pounds of taxpayers' money".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11922424

A very good move by the government, IMO. We lag behind most developed nations and it's time something was done to provide better broadband services across the country.

A positive move to create more jobs and higher growth for the economy.

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  • Sniffle774Sniffle774 Posts: 20,290
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    Might help more people work from home the next time 1cm of snow turns the UK into a post apocalyptic wasteland.
  • sensoriasensoria Posts: 4,682
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    MartinP wrote: »
    Every community in the UK will gain access to super-fast broadband by 2015 under plans outlined today.

    The private sector is to deliver broadband to two thirds of the UK. Other, mainly rural, areas will receive public funds to build a "digital hub" with a fibre optic internet connection.

    Ministers say they aim for the UK to have Europe's best broadband network.

    This will create "hundreds of thousands of jobs and add billions to our GDP", says Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt.

    The government has earmarked £830m for the scheme, with some of this money coming from funds given to the BBC to fund the switch to digital TV.

    Mr Hunt says the strategy will give the country Europe's best broadband network by 2015 and will be central to economic growth and the delivery of future public services, dependent on quick, reliable access to the internet.

    He added that wider access to broadband services also helped "build a fairer and more prosperous society", as well as "saving billions of pounds of taxpayers' money".

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11922424

    A very good move by the government, IMO. We lag behind most developed nations and it's time something was done to provide better broadband services across the country.

    A positive move to create more jobs and higher growth for the economy.

    This was actually earmarked by the last government aswell.

    It was the reason we decided to get into fibre optic cable and solutions 4 years ago.
  • SpacedoneSpacedone Posts: 2,546
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    Sniffle774 wrote: »
    Might help more people work from home the next time 1cm of snow turns the UK into a post apocalyptic wasteland.

    1cm plus the other 39cm....
  • psionicpsionic Posts: 20,188
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    This plan does sound very familiar.
  • SpacedoneSpacedone Posts: 2,546
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    As far as I can tell this policy is the same one Labour announced except that it's going to be implemented 3 years later and is funded through indirect tax via the BBC licence instead of through a direct tax. Didn't the Conservatives block this at the time?
  • AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,500
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    sensoria wrote: »
    This was actually earmarked by the last government aswell.

    It was the reason we decided to get into fibre optic cable and solutions 4 years ago.

    Wasn't the Labour plan for a much lower bandwith though by 2012?

    The coalition government seems to be aiming higher.
  • AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,500
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    Spacedone wrote: »
    As far as I can tell this policy is the same one Labour announced except that it's going to be implemented 3 years later and is funded through indirect tax via the BBC licence instead of through a direct tax. Didn't the Conservatives block this at the time?

    No it isn't, the Labour plan was for a much lower bandwith.
  • SpacedoneSpacedone Posts: 2,546
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    No it isn't, the Labour plan was for a much lower bandwith.

    Labour's plan was to have a minimum 2mb in all areas (which basically meant paying companies to put the infrastructure in rural areas they previously won't bother with, and according to the OPs linked report this pledge is repeated by the Tories) and to move towards everywhere having superfast broadband (50mb+) by an unspecified date.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8579333.stm

    This new plan differs in specifying a target date for this and the indirect route of the taxpayer funding as far as I can tell. No doubt there are more differences hidden away in the detail but the headline pledge isn't very different.
  • DarthGoreDarthGore Posts: 1,664
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    what exactly is the definition of "superfast broadband"

    I'm on Virgin Media's 20Mbps package, and considering going up to 50Mbps... given that the UK Government up to now has been bleating on about everyone having a minimum of 2Mbps, would that make me on ULTRAfast broadband?
  • MartinPMartinP Posts: 31,358
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    Spacedone wrote: »
    everywhere having superfast broadband (50mb+) by an unspecified date.

    I thought the date quoted was 2015 in the report
  • AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,500
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    Spacedone wrote: »
    Labour's plan was to have a minimum 2mb in all areas (which basically meant paying companies to put the infrastructure in rural areas they previously won't bother with, and according to the OPs linked report this pledge is repeated by the Tories) and to move towards everywhere having superfast broadband (50mb+) by an unspecified date.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8579333.stm

    This new plan differs in specifying a target date for this and the indirect route of the taxpayer funding as far as I can tell. No doubt there are more differences hidden away in the detail but the headline pledge isn't very different.

    Brown was going to put 50p on the line rental wasn't he?

    I agree that a plan for all to have high speed is desirable. I can't get it because we will never have cable and I live at a great distance from the supplying telephone exchange. But I get it for free so I can't really grumble.
  • AneechikAneechik Posts: 20,208
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    I hope than in order to achieve this superfast broadband they're going to be clamping down on mis-selling and bandwidth throttling.
  • PoliticoRNPoliticoRN Posts: 5,519
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    Believe it when I see it.

    BT can't even manage a reliable 1MB connection to my house (2.8 miles from exchange).

    Out here "ultra-fast" is anything that isn't dial-up.
  • MarkjukMarkjuk Posts: 30,422
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    DarthGore wrote: »
    what exactly is the definition of "superfast broadband"

    I'm on Virgin Media's 20Mbps package, and considering going up to 50Mbps... given that the UK Government up to now has been bleating on about everyone having a minimum of 2Mbps, would that make me on ULTRAfast broadband?

    2Mbps (up to 250 kiloBYTES a second) is NOT Ultrafast broadband, it is now becoming equivilent to what 56kbps (dial up modem) was a few years ago. As years move forward this will be ever more true as web applications become ever more demanding. To be truely progressive the Government needs to set a higher speed target, say 50 Megabits to be deployed. With BT trialing 1Gbps even 50 Megabits will become snail speed in the relative future. Saying that 1Gbps whilst sounding impressive only delivers a maximum performance of 125MB per second, comparable to current HDD transfer speeds.
  • sensoriasensoria Posts: 4,682
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    Markjuk wrote: »
    2Mbps (up to 250 kiloBYTES a second) is NOT Ultrafast broadband, it is now becoming equivilent to what 56kbps (dial up modem) was a few years ago. As years move forward this will be ever more true as web applications become ever more demanding. To be truely progressive the Government needs to set a higher speed target, say 50 Megabits to be deployed. With BT trialing 1Gbps even 50 Megabits will become snail speed in the relative future. Saying that 1Gbps whilst sounding impressive only delivers a maximum performance of 125MB per second, comparable to current HDD transfer speeds.

    Either way I am happy, as I have Virgin, SKY and BT as my customers. The move to high speed broadband and fibre optic cable is going to make our little company quite a lot of money.
  • cpu121cpu121 Posts: 5,330
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    Incidentally fibre broadband is considered one of the main arenas for the Big Society. As well as the likes of BT, there are smaller companies such as Rutland Telecom and community groups like Cybermoor, working to bring fibre to areas that BT won't touch. In areas like Cumbria, people are taking a JFDI approach - Just Farmers (or ****ing!) Do It - to create community Wi-Fi networks.
  • alanwarwicalanwarwic Posts: 28,396
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    I need a 1 story extension added to my house.

    How to I get the BBC to pay up?
    Do I approach a few license payers or my local dodgy MP?
    And why aren't the BBC gritting more roads?


    Yep is a sly way to close down the BBC whilst still nicking our license money.
  • mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    PoliticoRN wrote: »
    Believe it when I see it.

    BT can't even manage a reliable 1MB connection to my house (2.8 miles from exchange).

    Out here "ultra-fast" is anything that isn't dial-up.

    Don't compare speeds today with what you might get under fibre-to-the-*. Even if it is fibre to the cabinet, the distance will be much smaller than it currently is. If it is fibre-to-the-home, then the distance between you and the exchange becomes much more irrelevant (in terms of potential speed).
  • PoliticoRNPoliticoRN Posts: 5,519
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    moox wrote: »
    Don't compare speeds today with what you might get under fibre-to-the-*. Even if it is fibre to the cabinet, the distance will be much smaller than it currently is. If it is fibre-to-the-home, then the distance between you and the exchange becomes much more irrelevant (in terms of potential speed).

    I understand the technology.

    Just don't believe it will happen.

    Had a BT engineer come to the house when we first got the internet. We were having horrid connection speeds and dropped connections all the time.

    He told us that 70% of internet problems are caused in the little stretch of wire that goes from the house to the telegraph pole. That in an ideal world BT recommended that wire was replaced every 7-10 years. This house is 50 years old and still on the original wire that was put in about 10 years after it was built. So we asked if he was going to replace it.

    Oh no, he said, he'd need special permission from BT to do that and we wouldn't get it. Periodically replacing that wire in accordance with BT's own recommendations would have BT bankrupt within 2 years.

    So they fob people off with under performing connections and hope no one notices.
  • LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,646
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    I just wish the media would get the terminology right. I've seen, read an heard reports talking about a "50 Megabyte per second" network.

    Please get your bits and bytes sorted out.
  • ErlangErlang Posts: 6,619
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    Very old and repeated response.

    Some help towards the goal, would be to add mandatory provision of multicore fibre duct in building regulation, all new roads and estates ducted for fibre at construction. Sub ducts then leased out to carriers.

    We do the same for water, sewage, gas and electric.
  • roddydogsroddydogs Posts: 10,305
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    So presumably their will be millions of people who cant (or Wont) pay for this for one reason or another, so who will pay their share, or is that a silly question.
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