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The most incredibly false and abhorrent cry of rape. She is vile indeed.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132067/John-Lewis-assistant-cried-rape-embarassed-kinky-sex-session-jailed-advertising-online-bondage-dominatrix.html

This has to top the league of lowlife scum who cry rape. 14 months in prison will sort her out. The judge even remarked that she was intelligent and well educated. Bizarre.
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    swehsweh Posts: 13,665
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    Jeezus. Some women are terrors.

    I know I shouldn't judge people or stereotype them, but in that picture she doesn't even look like she's into BDSM!
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    peacelilypeacelily Posts: 4,239
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    Evil bitch. She has ruined a man's life for no reason. She deserves a longer stretch.
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    The PuzzlerThe Puzzler Posts: 7,689
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    14 months is a bit of a short sentence for what she did, then there's the 14 grand(a month for every thousand pounds?) and the police time and manpower that was wasted because of her as well. The judge should have made the lying cow pay it all back.
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    Stever7Stever7 Posts: 1,675
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    Ugh, 14 months? What a joke, her term should have been in years imo. Being embarrassed, or regretting something isn't a good enough reason for ruining someones life and making them go through hell. In my opinion the law needs to get tough on these people (women or men) who make up rape alligations. All they end up doing is ruining some poor innocent persons life and making it so much harder for real victims to get justice. Absolute disgraces each and everyone of them.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 397
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    Stever7 wrote: »
    Ugh, 14 months? What a joke, her term should have been in years imo. Being embarrassed, or regretting something isn't a good enough reason for ruining someones life and making them go through hell. In my opinion the law needs to get tough on these people (women or men) who make up rape alligations. All they end up doing is ruining some poor innocent persons life and making it so much harder for real victims to get justice. Absolute disgraces each and everyone of them.

    Totally agree. She should have got the same sentence a rapist would recieve.
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    pickwickpickwick Posts: 25,739
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    A bad thing to do, obviously (though I suspect the truth is a bit more nuanced than the Mail story, that's mostly using it as an excuse to be sensationalist).

    But vile, evil, scum, terrors, disgraces, making people go through hell? Why don't I see this level of vitriol for, you know, rapists?
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    KapellmeisterKapellmeister Posts: 41,322
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    I'm sure we could find some leniency in our hearts if we only took the time to understand her...
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    Queen__BeaQueen__Bea Posts: 1,124
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    I sometimes wonder if we instil into people enough just how wrong it is to falsely accuse someone of a sexual offence.

    Just as we need to deal more rigorously with genuine cases (particularly awful things like the rape gangs which operate with impunity in some parts of the country), we need to make it known that accusing someone falsely of this type of offence is as serious as the alleged offence itself. A woman should be able to live in a world where no means no, but also be aware of the awfulness of lying about something as serious as rape.

    Children too must be taught NEVER to falsely accuse any adult (parent, teacher etc) of a sexual offence. Innocent lives and hard earned reputations are ruined in an instant, way way too easily. I think they should aslo be kept off the Internet till they are 16, but that's another subject.

    14 months will give this girl time enough to think about the incredibly stupid and damaging thing she's done - not only to her victim, but to the cause of getting justice for genuine rape victims.


    There should also be a Megan's Law (or whatever it's called) in place for this type of thing - warning men away from women with this type of conviction.
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    Mrs de WinterMrs de Winter Posts: 2,867
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    She did an absolutely terrible thing and it is right that she is punished severely, but I think 14 months is an appropriate sentence.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,272
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    What a stupid lass for making this false allegation. Some lasses see rape allegations as nothing but a trivial way of getting out of awkward situations.
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    AdzPowerAdzPower Posts: 4,861
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    What an absolute disgrace, it sh!ts all over real men/women who make true allegations of rape, her sentence should have been years, the trouble is when rape is reported they do nothing but arrest the suspect, dont even bother to check over the "victim".
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    peacelilypeacelily Posts: 4,239
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    pickwick wrote: »
    A bad thing to do, obviously (though I suspect the truth is a bit more nuanced than the Mail story, that's mostly using it as an excuse to be sensationalist).

    But vile, evil, scum, terrors, disgraces, making people go through hell? Why don't I see this level of vitriol for, you know, rapists?

    Rapists are evil. She has attached the stigma of being a rapist to an innocent man. His work colleagues, friends, acquaintances, aren't likely to forget (especially all the details of what happened in the privacy of his home, and should have remained so), even though he was innocent of wrong-doing. So is why she is a horrible woman.
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    Stever7Stever7 Posts: 1,675
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    pickwick wrote: »
    A bad thing to do, obviously (though I suspect the truth is a bit more nuanced than the Mail story, that's mostly using it as an excuse to be sensationalist).

    But vile, evil, scum, terrors, disgraces, making people go through hell? Why don't I see this level of vitriol for, you know, rapists?

    There is plently of hate against rapist... it's commonly accepted as one of the worst crimes that can be commited... which is why false accusations are just as damning. The reason men (or women) who are falsly accused of rape go through hell is BECAUSE of the hate shown toward rapists is so great that just being accused (not found guilty in any shape or form) is enough for people to lose jobs, friends, etc

    I find your comment a bit silly to be honest.
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    pickwickpickwick Posts: 25,739
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    Queen__Bea wrote: »
    ..accusing someone falsely of this type of offence is as serious as the alleged offence itself.
    No, it's really not, and saying it is totally disrepects victims of rape and child abuse.
    There should also be a Megan's Law (or whatever it's called) in place for this type of thing - warning men away from women with this type of conviction.
    And that's a terrible idea, especially when there isn't even a law that warns people away from actual rapists!
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    The PuzzlerThe Puzzler Posts: 7,689
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    pickwick wrote: »
    A bad thing to do, obviously (though I suspect the truth is a bit more nuanced than the Mail story, that's mostly using it as an excuse to be sensationalist).

    But vile, evil, scum, terrors, disgraces, making people go through hell? Why don't I see this level of vitriol for, you know, rapists?

    Rapists deserve to have their bollocks cut off. But, this doesn't change the fact that it IS vile to make false accusations like this, and her sentence was way too short.
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    pickwickpickwick Posts: 25,739
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    peacelily wrote: »
    Rapists are evil. She has attached the stigma of being a rapist to an innocent man. His work colleagues, friends, acquaintances, aren't likely to forget (especially all the details of what happened in the privacy of his home, and should have remained so), even though he was innocent of wrong-doing. So is why she is a horrible woman.
    I don't think she can be held responsible for his colleagues' judgementalism about S&M! But yeah, I know what she did was terrible.
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    Queen__BeaQueen__Bea Posts: 1,124
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    pickwick wrote: »
    No, it's really not, and saying it is totally disrepects victims of rape and child abuse.




    And that's a terrible idea, especially when there isn't even a law that warns people away from actual rapists!

    Just to answer your points:

    1) No it doesn't. How would you feel if, say, your elderly father was falsely accused of molesting a child, or your brother was falsely accused of rape? How serious and devasting would you feel that situation would be?

    2) No it's not. There are trial schemes in place which allow women to check up on their prospective boyfriends in case they might have a history of sexual or domestic violence.

    These are my views and I am entitled to them. I am not saying there are definitely any easy answers out there, I am just offering my thoughts.

    I'm getting more and more dismayed by people like you who simply want to troll for a personalised argument. I really don't know what you get out of it - particularly on a subject as horrendous as this.:confused:
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    pickwickpickwick Posts: 25,739
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    Stever7 wrote: »
    There is plently of hate against rapist... it's commonly accepted as one of the worst crimes that can be commited... which is why false accusations are just as damning. The reason men (or women) who are falsly accused of rape go through hell is BECAUSE of the hate shown toward rapists is so great that just being accused (not found guilty in any shape or form) is enough for people to lose jobs, friends, etc

    I find your comment a bit silly to be honest.
    Yeah, well, I suspect I've heard more rape apologists than you, so have a different view. (You know - "ah, but she was drinking, and wearing a short skirt, and being out at night alone, and being into S&M, and anyway she could have fought harder, she didn't even hit him...")
    Rapists deserve to have their bollocks cut off. But, this doesn't change the fact that it IS vile to make false accusations like this, and her sentence was way too short.
    It is vile, I never meant to imply it wasn't. Not sure about her sentence being too short though. And there's always issues around this, to do with how you have to be *really, really* sure it was a malicious complaint rather than a mental health issue, a misunderstanding, or just something that couldn't be proved, because otherwise coming down really hard on "false accusations" just ends up putting people off reporting actual rapes.
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    Mrs de WinterMrs de Winter Posts: 2,867
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    peacelily wrote: »
    Rapists are evil. She has attached the stigma of being a rapist to an innocent man. His work colleagues, friends, acquaintances, aren't likely to forget (especially all the details of what happened in the privacy of his home, and should have remained so), even though he was innocent of wrong-doing. So is why she is a horrible woman.

    Yes, but let's not forget that she did plead guilty, so at least there is no question about this man's innocence, no suspicions hanging over him.

    Of course he has been through a terrible and humiliating ordeal, which is why it is right that this silly woman is being punished.
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    HelboreHelbore Posts: 16,069
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    pickwick wrote: »
    I don't think she can be held responsible for his colleagues' judgementalism about S&M! But yeah, I know what she did was terrible.

    I don't think they meant him being judged over his S&M tendencies. I think they meant that he was arrested for rape in front of all his work colleagues.
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    Stever7Stever7 Posts: 1,675
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    pickwick wrote: »
    Yeah, well, I suspect I've heard more rape apologists than you, so have a different view. (You know - "ah, but she was drinking, and wearing a short skirt, and being out at night alone, and being into S&M, and anyway she could have fought harder, she didn't even hit him...")

    Ok... so what you're saying is because SOME people make excuses for rape, that falsly accusing people of rape has no impact on that innocent persons life? I guess the man in question had all his friends, family, bosses making excuses for him? Maybe he even got a raise?!? :D Or maybe... just maybe... the 99% of normal human beings who condem rape is enough to ruin someones life unjustly because they were falsly accused of a crime they didn't commit.

    And for the record, you seem to be a bit of a rape allogation apologist...
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    peacelilypeacelily Posts: 4,239
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    pickwick wrote: »
    I don't think she can be held responsible for his colleagues' judgementalism about S&M! But yeah, I know what she did was terrible.
    Helbore wrote: »
    I don't think they meant him being judged over his S&M tendencies. I think they meant that he was arrested for rape in front of all his work colleagues.

    Yes, by her actions (indirectly) she has held him up for public humiliation. If she hadn't made the false allegations in the first place, none of that would have happened.
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    user186user186 Posts: 235
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    pickwick wrote: »
    A bad thing to do, obviously (though I suspect the truth is a bit more nuanced than the Mail story, that's mostly using it as an excuse to be sensationalist).

    But vile, evil, scum, terrors, disgraces, making people go through hell? Why don't I see this level of vitriol for, you know, rapists?

    my thoughts exactly.
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    KapellmeisterKapellmeister Posts: 41,322
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    Can anyone explain to me in simple language why the identity of the accused is allowed to be revealed and publicised before they are found guilty?
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    pickwickpickwick Posts: 25,739
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    Helbore wrote: »
    I don't think they meant him being judged over his S&M tendencies. I think they meant that he was arrested for rape in front of all his work colleagues.
    peacelily wrote: »
    Yes, by her actions (indirectly) she has held him up for public humiliation. If she hadn't made the false allegations in the first place, none of that would have happened.
    Oh, totally, that'd be a nightmare for him and is her fault. It was just the bit about them knowing about his actions in the privacy of his own home I wasn't sure about.
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