Star Trek DS9 V Star Trek TNG
chinchin
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I am trying to like Star Trek Deep Space Nine (now it is on Virgin 1), I really am. Is it just me or does anyone else think it is pants compared with 'The Next Generation'? and to some extent, 'Voyager'? I know it is supposed to have a different feel to it, but it is all conflict and more conflict and if I had a penny for everytime the words 'Bajor' and 'Bajorans' were mentioned I would be a very rich man! When is 'The Next Generation' going to be repeated? 
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Me persoanlly, I would rate the series in order of my favourite being TNG, then Voyager, then DS9, then Enterprise, and the TOS (just basically because TOS just seems sooo dated now, and the acting just looks sooo hamy-espicially tthe fight scenes).
I actualy quite like DS9, but to me there are just to many similarities to TNG for Data in TNG read Otto in DS9, and for Crusher read Julian in DS9, and for Quark in DS9 read Guinan in TNG. There may be a more healthy cast list in DS9, but you can see whom they based their character's traits upon.
What a coincidence as the order I like the diferent series is the same! ;)I might swap Enterprise for T.O.S though. I didn't really get Enterprise. I hadn't thought of those character comparisons before. I guess they are staring me in the face!
and are good listeners!
If you like simplistic stories all neatly wrapped up at the end of 43 minutes by one dimensional characters then TNG is fine -- its a series thats easy to drop in and out of without missing much.
The multi layered DS9 has well developed characters and so many back stories and intricate plots that it rewards the dedicated viewer in spades.
However just like TNG the first 2 seasons of DS9 are not the show at its best.
But by the second half of season 2 its well on the way.
But its not a show that remains interesting if you miss episodes.
Its the only Trek series where its necessary to see virtually all the episodes.
As DS9 is about the Federation assisting Bajor into becoming members by using a space station that the Cardassions used during the occupation of Bajor, and that Sisko has been named as the Emmisary to Bajor - that might explain why DS9 mentions
Bajor a lot:rolleyes:
Bit like moaning when Star Trek Voyager keeps mentioning Voyager all the time
But I agree that some early DS9 episodes can seem a bit dull .
You could have a point there. I do miss episodes and find the stories hard to follow. I do prefer individual episodes. I don't agree that he characters are one dimentional though. Look at Data's quest to be more like humans or Wesley Crusher, growing up for example.
OK Odo and Data, I get the comparision, both unique, learning about humanity and their origins, but Two caring doctors, and two bar keeps who are good listeners? (In quark's case when it suited him.) I mean if quark was such a good listener why did he never realise how smart Rom was?
I just can't see any depth to the other comparisons, but I freely accept, I may have over looked things
For the record I loved TNG, DS9 and Voyager and watched all as the video releases came in the UK. My brother bought them and I was hooked, but I think each was my favourite on first viewing, but now I just remember them all fondly. They are very different so I tend not to compare them to myself.
I hope that makes sense:o
This will probably get moved by the way.
I think we are overdue a new Star Trek series, but I think they are concentrating on an 'Enterprise' film instead.
Compared to TOS the characters of TNG appear to be fully fleshed out characters ,bit if you watch DS9 fully over the 7 years the characters of TNG do indeed appear very basic.
I think the depth of characterisation took a step backward again with Voyager
I did not even dip into enterprise when it aired, and still have not, so I am very happy to enjoy reruns for a while. Sometimes a break is good. I would try something new if it came though.
I shall delve into that show after I conclude Voyager on dvd
I loved voyager for it's easy viewing. They had such a comfortable life for a "lost" crew, taking on whole whole worlds and rarely struggling. I would have liked to watch the adventures on that other lost Star Fleet ship. The one that abandoned the prime directive. That would have been an interesting journey.
No. His death should not trigger yet another childish this v that debate. If anything, it should mark a celebration of all Star Trek. IDIC.
What on earth has Leornard Nimoy's death got to do with whether DS9, TOS or TNG are better?
DS9 has a brilliant story arc which was mapped out over several years. TNG didn't. TNG was just too much standalone alone for my liking. But when it had short arcs, they never delivered.
DS9 for me had a more likeable and fleshed out supporting cast. I felt every single character shined. TNG for me didn't. Or if they were developed, the development was normally in later seasons which is too long. But Picard was a much better captain than Sisko.
DS9 was much more bold with the stories it told. TNG had the ideas and creativity, but the scripts were ever so poor.
Enterprise was an abomination. Voyager is underrated but scripts did come across half arsed and normally faltered in resolutions, so i can see why some dislike it.
personally i think DS9 is much better than TNG, especially in the later seasons
i like all the Strar Trek series, DS9 is my fave though
No farting around.
i have never seen babylon 5 so i cannot comment but i heard something about it
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Babylon_5
Joe Straczynski, who created B5, when he was trying to get the show off the ground pitched it to a number of studios. One of these was Paramount who were given and held the B5 series bible for a number of months, after which they declined because they had a similar show in development (DS9). The more extreme conspiracy theorists propose that Paramount ripped off the B5 series bible and essentially put all of those elements into DS9, albeit in different forms. What's more likely to have happened is that Paramount held the bible, but Piller and Berman finalised the concept for DS9 in the meantime. It's fairly clear from the DS9 dvd extras that the 'station' idea was their's and not Paramount's and that if anything Paramount were incredibly cautious as it was a radical departure from the established Trek template.
What might have happened, is that Paramount may have chipped in with ideas that either consciously, or sub-consciously came from the B5 bible. I doubt Piller or Berman would have known either way - it would probably have been channeled to them as 'Network feedback'.