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Talk talk finally joins canvass
youddiph
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About time! Tiscali tv will be far more viable with canvas access!
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Hopefully this means a bright future for Tiscali TV & IPTV in general.
D.
What Canvas offers is a platform for box makers so eventually rather than being tied to the current Tiscali set top box, customers can have a choice of set top boxes or TVs with the kit built in from several makers, so these can connect to the new Talk Talk TV with BBC iplayer, ITV/ch4 and ch5 catchup players, etc Canvas compatable services.
A bit like Freeview or Freesat where you can chose your own STB or TV (but soon with built in ethernet WiFi IPTV HD tuners and recording hard drive!, so badged ISP STBs will be a thing of the past).
The advantage for BT Vision and TalkTalk TV it should reduce IPTV operating costs and become more competative with Sky TV with better bundles for customers, which is why Sky TV does not like the idea!
But Canvas are hoping Sky will also join the platform and they said in September!
http://www.projectcanvas.info/index.cfm/news/?mode=alias&alias=First-Stakeholder-Article I suspect Virgin, Tesco, Orange and O2/BE broadband, also Fetch TV will also soon join Canvas!
If Talk Talk is having anything to do with Canvas then I am staying well clear. In fact if they are putting money into it I hope it all goes belly up.
Canvas is only a standard for getting STBs and new TVs working with live and on demand IPTV in the same way Freeview works for UHF DVB sets!
It could be soon quite a few TV sets might have Canvas WiFi standards to work with either BT Vision ot Talktalk "straight out the box" depending on your ISP bundle!
Why? because Talk Talk and car phone warehouse will have something to do with it.
My T.v is only 3 years old, I hope it will last for another 8-9 and then at the time I need to buy a new T.V I make sure if will not have any way of connecting to canvas.
I hate Talk Talk, i detest Car phone warehouse as a company and I want nothing to do with them, simple as that really.
Technical Infrastructure for Canvas is being controlled by BT Wholesale and Broadcasters (BT Vision/Tiscali TV/BBC/C4/C5 etc) are using that infrastructure to host content (either free or paid for for the end user)
Tiscali and C5 joining up is evidence that Broadcasting experts believe Canvas will deliver a cheap distribution method with the potential for revenue through paid content.
yup and hopefully this will lead to more content for less money for "canvas" customers!
Mike
The only difference being BT ISP customers will use BT vision billing packages/bundles for paid for TV content!
and Talktalk/Tiscali will use Talktalk TV/ISP billing packages/ bundles for Talktalk, Tiscali, AOL, Pipex customers for paid for TV content!
Currently Tiscali have the advantage over BT in that Tiscali currently has agreement to carry Sky channels in it's bundles, and BT does not carry Sky channels, but how long this will last?
Anyway, Unless there is some sort of QOS for this canvas it will be a total waste of time, also people who have got a limit for the broadband will also find it a waste of itme.
I know that eventually BT want to replace it BTVision with it, so it you are with BT, it may be ok, but other providers it will be a waste of time unless they come up with some system to stop taking peoples data allowance.
However looks like Tiscali+ does download some HD programmes to hard drive out of hours for playback of on demand, rather than streaming!
The BBC iplayer was also initally meant to download on hard drive first for playback on a PC rather than streaming, this may be also part of the canvas spec for new TVs and STBs with built in hard drives to overcome problems where broadband speeds are potentially restricted!
I agree the main ISPs like BT, Talktalk, Orange and 02/BE will need to treat IPTV traffic carefully if they are going to successfully complete with Sky satellite and VM cable platforms!
However Sky are also getting into IPTV themselves with the Xbox and Fetch TV so they will also be interested in getting good IP connectivity!
The BBC trust has given it's go ahead but sounds from other posts, enlarged TalkTalk/Tiscali/AOL will need to ramp up customer service and technical support quite a bit, as well as the network, if it is going to offer IPTV and try and beat Sky!
BT as well, Because their customer service is awful, not as bad as Talk Talk, but then no one canm be that bad.
Still staying well clear of it./
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Regards,
David
I don't have any complaints about TTTV as it stands, except I'd like red button functionality - but that surely wouldn't qualify as "major" investment so there's still hope... isn't there?
(I really must get around to finding out exactly what Canvas is
parthena
Hiya.
Yep - sums up my position too, although having the old (non-subscribed) TUTV box plumbed in as a spare I hop over to that for the red button stuff.
But it'd be nice not to have to.
Canvas could be a very interesting proposition if it comes off - it's worth doing a bit of reading about it if you have the time.
Regards,
Dave.
I think they've started sending HD movies to the T+ box if you subscribe to the relevant channel - Movies Now I believe..
There's a promo running on the menu screen at the moment which mentions it.
Hope this helps,
Regards,
David.