Kill Bill Vol 2[...]she gets shot, shoved in a box and buried underground. Then has an arse-achingly long sequence looking back to being taught by some martial arts master.
Yeah, that part does drag on. The only thing I really like about it is that it builds up to the audience seeing how Elle lost her eye and her subsequent punishment of Pai Mei. I'm presuming that we weren't meant to be on Elle's side then but I sort of was, considering how cruel Pai Mei had been!
Is there a certain scene in a film that you feel goes on far too long? You like the film otherwise, but that particular scene annoys you because it's dragged out for far too long?
I was watching a bit of Back to the Future the other day, first time I've seen it for a good few years. It was the scene when Marty is just about to return to 1985 and they're about to do the Delorian-struck-by-lightening thing.
It got to the bit where the wire from the clock tower got messed up and Doc has to climb the tower and sort it out. Bloody hell, it just seemed to go on forever and ever. Somehow, the idea of the guy plugging the wire back in had to be dragged out for what seemed like ages! I ended up getting really annoyed by it and it's tainted my view of the film a little bit!
What are yours?
I think that's a little harsh. I've never got the sense that those twists were out of place at all, and it was all about building that tension before the deed was finally done. Surely you didn't want it to be simple?
I love the way Doc Brown goes from complete panic, to using his brain to think things through, watch the DeLorean come from a distance and then just think "Right, that's it, I'm sorting this out right now" and then Wham, one DeLorean sent back to 1985.
And the endless wedding in The Godfather could've been a lot shorter too.
Ah, you haven't seen The Deer Hunter, then?:p
Seriously, the wedding scene in The Godfather is crucial to setting up the rest of the film. It displays the Don's wealth and influence, shows that he is a big enough fish to be pursued by the FBI, introduces key characters and shows their relationship to each other etc. Actually, there's lots of things going on during the wedding scene; there's not much 'superfluous' wedding stuff at all, if you look at it. A couple of songs, maybe. Even the dancing where the little girl is standing on Tesio's shoes is there to show that these are family men and not just cold-hearted automatons.
Whoops, rambled on a bit there.:o Seriously, criticising The Godfather? What were you thinking?:p
You could say the same about The Deer Hunter though, and it's crucial to its three act structure. Never seemed too long to me.
No, what's referred to as the wedding scene in The Godfather cuts back and forth from the actual wedding celebrations to lots of other stuff going on. The actual screen time of people dancing, singing etc is quite short. I may be wrong (because I haven't seen it for years) but The Deer Hunter has whole sections of the camera just panning back and forth across the celebrations. No exposition, no information about characters, it just feels like filler. Probably time I saw it again.
Yeah, that part does drag on. The only thing I really like about it is that it builds up to the audience seeing how Elle lost her eye and her subsequent punishment of Pai Mei. I'm presuming that we weren't meant to be on Elle's side then but I sort of was, considering how cruel Pai Mei had been!
That does drag but I think thats the point, supposed to be a tribute/homage to old kung fu flicks Showing that even though her training was harsh, she was able to use it to get out of a situation.
In what otherwise is a minor satirical masterpiece, there is an extremely long fight scene between the two main male protagonists (Roddy Piper and Keith David) in 'They Live' (1988) by John Carpenter. It goes on for about 7 minutes and may be in there because Piper was an ex-wrestler.
In what otherwise is a minor satirical masterpiece, there is an extremely long fight scene between the two main male protagonists (Roddy Piper and Keith David) in 'They Live' (1988) by John Carpenter. It goes on for about 7 minutes and may be in there because Piper was an ex-wrestler.
True, that does go on for a very long time. Still, its length is metaphorical, in that it can take a hell of a long fight to get someone to see what they don't want to see. Mind you, I suppose half the time would still have sufficed.
In the film Inglorious B's there is a scene in a café seated at a table with a gun which one knows is to end in a fight, and the scene goes on and on relentlessly to the point of great tedium.
Some people say they like the scene and that it is tense but for me it just doesn't work. For one thing the conversation is boring.
In the film Inglorious B's there is a scene in a café seated at a table with a gun which one knows is to end in a fight, and the scene goes on and on relentlessly to the point of great tedium.
Some people say they like the scene and that it is tense but for me it just doesn't work. For one thing the conversation is boring.
I think several scenes in Inglourious suffer from that issue. I like Tarantino's dialogue as much as the the next person, but there are several 20 minute conversations which add almost nothing. Perhaps if he'd cut them down to 10 minutes the film would have worked a lot better...
In the film Inglorious B's there is a scene in a café seated at a table with a gun which one knows is to end in a fight, and the scene goes on and on relentlessly to the point of great tedium.
Some people say they like the scene and that it is tense but for me it just doesn't work. For one thing the conversation is boring.
I was going to mention that film. QT is well known for his long dialogs but some felt in that film he was taking the p just a little.
The wedding scene in The Deer Hunter goes on for what seems like days...
Yep, I'm with you on that. It was pretty much endless footage of them dancing around for fifty or so minutes. Good grief! I reckon it was well over an hour and a half into the film before they even got to sodding Vietnam!!
My vote goes to the car-chase scene in The Blues Brothers. It just got ridiculous by the end, to the point where it just became boring and a little bit tasteless, if I'm honest. It's a great film though, it's just that the car-chase scene has always bothered me about it.
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This was 20 minutes into a 3 hour 40 minutes long film.
Of course you could argue Heaven's Gate is a masterpiece.
Yeah, that part does drag on. The only thing I really like about it is that it builds up to the audience seeing how Elle lost her eye and her subsequent punishment of Pai Mei. I'm presuming that we weren't meant to be on Elle's side then but I sort of was, considering how cruel Pai Mei had been!
Indeed. The last 30 minutes, to be precise.:cool:
You've really go it in for him, haven't you?:p
Actually, if you're referring to the opening station scene from Once Upon a Time in the West, you might have a point...:o
No, and they didn't.
I think that's a little harsh. I've never got the sense that those twists were out of place at all, and it was all about building that tension before the deed was finally done. Surely you didn't want it to be simple?
I love the way Doc Brown goes from complete panic, to using his brain to think things through, watch the DeLorean come from a distance and then just think "Right, that's it, I'm sorting this out right now" and then Wham, one DeLorean sent back to 1985.
Ah, you haven't seen The Deer Hunter, then?:p
Seriously, the wedding scene in The Godfather is crucial to setting up the rest of the film. It displays the Don's wealth and influence, shows that he is a big enough fish to be pursued by the FBI, introduces key characters and shows their relationship to each other etc. Actually, there's lots of things going on during the wedding scene; there's not much 'superfluous' wedding stuff at all, if you look at it. A couple of songs, maybe. Even the dancing where the little girl is standing on Tesio's shoes is there to show that these are family men and not just cold-hearted automatons.
Whoops, rambled on a bit there.:o Seriously, criticising The Godfather? What were you thinking?:p
Still...guess they could have just ripped them out and had loads more gunfights instead eh?
For film with every scene too long, however, you can't beat Peter Jackson's King Kong. At least that's how it felt.
No, what's referred to as the wedding scene in The Godfather cuts back and forth from the actual wedding celebrations to lots of other stuff going on. The actual screen time of people dancing, singing etc is quite short. I may be wrong (because I haven't seen it for years) but The Deer Hunter has whole sections of the camera just panning back and forth across the celebrations. No exposition, no information about characters, it just feels like filler. Probably time I saw it again.
I love the scene in the middle of that where Bond is
That does drag but I think thats the point, supposed to be a tribute/homage to old kung fu flicks
Actually For A Few Dollars More is one of my favourite westerns.:p Definetly my favourite spaghetti one.
I just think after that he became a bit self indulgent.:)
True, that does go on for a very long time. Still, its length is metaphorical, in that it can take a hell of a long fight to get someone to see what they don't want to see. Mind you, I suppose half the time would still have sufficed.
Some people say they like the scene and that it is tense but for me it just doesn't work. For one thing the conversation is boring.
Off topic but I found that really bizarre. It would have worked brilliantly on screen, especially with the leprechauns and veela.
I think several scenes in Inglourious suffer from that issue. I like Tarantino's dialogue as much as the the next person, but there are several 20 minute conversations which add almost nothing. Perhaps if he'd cut them down to 10 minutes the film would have worked a lot better...
Yep, I'm with you on that. It was pretty much endless footage of them dancing around for fifty or so minutes. Good grief! I reckon it was well over an hour and a half into the film before they even got to sodding Vietnam!!
My vote goes to the car-chase scene in The Blues Brothers. It just got ridiculous by the end, to the point where it just became boring and a little bit tasteless, if I'm honest. It's a great film though, it's just that the car-chase scene has always bothered me about it.