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EastEnders - Battle of the Landlady and Ex Landlady!
lucasade16
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Tonight's Episode saw Linda Carter squeal a bit when coming a cropper with Miss Slater, for me it's about time someone stood up to her, when it comes to being a mum she has had no luck herself; spiteful to Jonny, Made decisions for them and every one of them have tried to leave her (Jonny gone, Nancy wedding/rebeling against her and wasn't interested and Lee in the army) And when it comes to being a Landlady I must admit Kat for me was the more brassy Landlady, Jessie Wallace has done herself justice these last few weeks, brilliant actress. Can't wait for the clash tomorrow!;-)
I DO NOT say what Kat is doing is right but for someone who had been raped as a teenager by her old uncle and then give birth to a daughter and bring it up as a sister, burnt in a fire, lost her home, mum passed away at a young age, Alfie cheated on her and seemed to of abandoned her now?,had her baby swapped, penniless yet works, she has just hit rock bottom. Like Kat said Linda acts like a little princess and has had everything handed to her on a plate from her ever so annoying mother and too soft husband.
I DO NOT say what Kat is doing is right but for someone who had been raped as a teenager by her old uncle and then give birth to a daughter and bring it up as a sister, burnt in a fire, lost her home, mum passed away at a young age, Alfie cheated on her and seemed to of abandoned her now?,had her baby swapped, penniless yet works, she has just hit rock bottom. Like Kat said Linda acts like a little princess and has had everything handed to her on a plate from her ever so annoying mother and too soft husband.
Team Kat or Linda? 99 votes
Team Kathleen Slater
32%
32 votes
Team Linda Carter
67%
67 votes
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I like both characters, but Linda is in the right here and I feel sorry for Kat who needs serious help after what Alfie, the arsonist, did to her. I also feel likes da is the better landlady, I never liked Kat and Alfie's time behind the bar.
I do not say what Kat is doing is right but for someone who had been raped as a teenager by her old uncle and then give birth to a daughter and bring it up as a sister, burnt in a fire, had her baby swapped, penniless yet works, she has just hit rock bottom. Like Kat said Linda acts like a little princess and has had everything handed to her on a plate from her ever so annoying mother and too soft husband.
Kat is utterly, utterly repulsive and I hope Alfie gets the matchbox out and finishes the job.
Life has made her that way, I don't mean in hit out at everyone, the tough side is because she has had to be seeing as she just hits rock bottom every so often, Linda has gone through jack all compared to someone like Kat, yet her life seems WORSE than anyone's with the face she keeps wearing haha!:D
Anyway, going by tonight's episode, I'm definitely team Kat. What she did to her kids was pretty bad, but Kat will always be there for her kids and would never abandon them. If things got really bad and her kids were in danger, she would soon snap out of it.
It was only a year ago, Linda could barely look at her Son, because he was gay. Kat would NEVER behave in such a way, she'd slap anyone who even looked at her children in a funny way. So why Linda things she's above all else and mother of the year yet again, is beyond me! She was out of order, with the way she spoke to Kat tonight IMO. Kat is tight, Linda is on her high horse again, and the character is nothing more than a gobby cow. I hope she gets a good old slap one day, as she has treated people like shit in the past and probably will again on day!
Shirley and Johnny are two prime examples, and they are part of her own family!
Kat's been through a lot more than Linda and her behaviour comes across as understandable. Not right, but understandable!
This! She hasn't shown any concern for her disabled daughter until now, mollycoddling her premature son instead, who has nothing else wrong with him. She's tried to make them what she wants them to be, not what they want to be. Like Ben, she wants there to be a cure for being gay, while Johnny was the only one behaving decently.
Had Linda had Kat's life, she wouldn't have lasted two minutes. Linda has also had the luxury of having Mick believe her absolutely re: her rape, whereas Kat wasn't believed by her own mother, or at least not to her knowledge until it was years too late.
Exactly. Kat has had it worse than Linda!
Nonetheless Kat when she's not utterly odious. At her best she is a much better character than Linda and has a life outside of her family cocoon. Of course most mothers in families see them as the #1 priority but with Linda it's taken to the next level of smothering. Moreover I find her prickly and slightly narrow minded compared to her own mum (Elaine) and her immediate family who seem much more embracing. With Linda it's mainly Sharon of the non-Carters.
She works well as the vic landlady even though she is overused and I can't can't the character. Kat was a dull landlady and the moons needed out of it.
If this is "who was in the right in this episode?" I would say neither.
Yes, Kat can be overly agressive when confronted and she was completely out of order going behind the bar but Linda had already passed judgement on Kat before that incident. Kat took her eye off the twins for 5 seconds (and made sure Fatboy knew to keep an eye on them) but didn't really have any choice. What was she meant to do about Tommy? Linda had no right to have a go or to stick her nose in.
Kat's behaviour in the pub was far from admirable and she deserved to be kicked out but Linda's snooty "You give single mother's a bad name" was a low blow and not a comment she is in any position to make. Linda is married to Mr. Perfect; the most supportive, endlessly patient husband who has completely doted on her since they were kids. She has a mother who will readily drop whatever she is doing in her own life at the drop of a hat to come and offer further support. She has grown children who base their social life around pleasing her and supporting her. In fact her whole family seem to have cheering Linda up as their life's mission. Kat doesn't have any of that. Linda has never, and probably will never find herself in the desperate, hopeless position Kat is in. Life is a struggle for Kat right now and she needs friendship and support, not yet another kicking while she's down. If Linda has genuine concern, I'm sure she could find a better way of showing it.
Great post.
I like the Carters, some more than others yet they've come into the square like a snobby family specially when it comes to Linda!!!
I voted Kat because, although she was out of order, Linda was awful to her. She knows her circumstances, she knows she has lost home and husband and is struggling to cope. The hand of friendship wouldn't have gone amiss.
Epilepsy does not automatically make you disabled and as Nancy's epilepsy is controlled and she leads a normal life for 99% of the time why should Linda be too worried. As for Johnny when a baby is ill parents often even when they grow up worry about them. I was very ill as a baby and my mother was always more worried about me than my healthier siblings didn't mean she cared for them any less.
If there was the option to 'like' a post, I would. Completely agree.
It was suffocating johnny though and he wanted her to let him grow up. She only let him go to stop him finding out about the rape otherwise he'd have been forced to stay with them.
In the past six months Kat has:
Become a single mother to three kids under four years old.
Lost her husband and main pillar of support.
Been seriously burned in a fire caused by her own husband leaving her in incredible pain and with lasting scarring over her face and body which has surely been a further blow to her delicate self esteem.
Been made homeless at a time when she should have been trying to recuperate.
Had her family go behind her back and bring Uncle Harry back into her life and head at a time when she is particularly vulnerable.
This is just the past hellish six months. Anybody would struggle to cope. It's understandable if things are getting too much and Linda should have waited until she was sober to offer a shoulder and give a pep talk not hurl verbal abuse in a self righteous and snobbish manner.