How is rUK going to unilaterally change the EU trade rules?
Unless fo course you are suggesting rUK will be out of the EU.
Simple. By blocking the ratification of any trade agreement with Scotland.
But there is NO NEED for it to come to this. This only applies if Scotland tries to wield knife in the negotiations compared to the gun that the UK would be holding.
Never mind what the impact on the Scottish economy would be of something such as the Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill if it was nationalised (and still having to pay the costs of nationalisation).
Try getting a sovereign nation into a foreign court.
"Our mission is to position Scotland among the world's top 3 producers of premium food and drink products and generate £16.5 billion per annum for our industry by 2017."
Scotland has said it will pay its share for a fair share.
Just to clarify that you expect both rUK and Scotland to be in the EU yes?
As for a trade agreement, perhaps you can outline using some links to WTC and the EU as to how Scotland would need UK support for a trade agreement while both were in the EU.
Posted from earlier.
The acquis in the area of economic and monetary policy contains specific rules requiring the independence of central banks in Member States,
You do not need our support at all, just comply to the rules of the union you desire to join
By JOSEPH WILSON and ALAN CLENDENNING
Associated Press
BARCELONA, Spain (AP) - Hundreds of thousands of Catalans energized by Scotland's upcoming independence referendum protested on Thursday for a secession vote aimed at carving out a new Mediterranean nation in what is now northeastern Spain.
The events illustrated how the Scottish vote in just one week is captivating breakaway minded Europeans in several countries.,
By JOSEPH WILSON and ALAN CLENDENNING
Associated Press
BARCELONA, Spain (AP) - Hundreds of thousands of Catalans energized by Scotland's upcoming independence referendum protested on Thursday for a secession vote aimed at carving out a new Mediterranean nation in what is now northeastern Spain.
The events illustrated how the Scottish vote in just one week is captivating breakaway minded Europeans in several countries.,
Simple. By blocking the ratification of any trade agreement with Scotland.
But there is NO NEED for it to come to this. This only applies if Scotland tries to wield knife in the negotiations compared to the gun that the UK would be holding.
What trade agreement would this be? As both will be in the EU they operate in a single market. The UK has zero power as there are no seperate trade agreements between EU countries. Further, at the WTO UK is represented by the EU.
The UK has a shared import/export policy with other European Union (EU) countries. This means EU countries work together to negotiate trade agreements with non-EU countries.
This arrangement is part of the Common Commercial Policy – an agreement where the EU represents all its member states in trade negotiations with non-EU countries.
You really have no idea what you are speaking about.
Just say if Scotland became independent and if all the moons and stars aligned and it did in fact turn out to be the success that Salmond is suggesting.. Do posters think that this would have an effect on rUK, galvanising more votes than there would have been, to opt out of the EU?
As for a trade agreement, perhaps you can outline using some links to WTC and the EU as to how Scotland would need UK support for a trade agreement while both were in the EU.
Have you even read my earlier posts? This is in the context of Scotland trying to negotiate "no pound no debt". In that situation you will not become a member of the EU as I would anticipate we will block your membership.
Just say if Scotland became independent and if all the moons and stars aligned and it did in fact turn out to be the success that Salmond is suggesting.. Do posters think that this would have an effect on rUK, galvanising more votes than there would have been, to opt out of the EU?
If we go our seperate ways I am virtually certain that Scotland will have the most minute part of any discussion in rUK regarding an in out EU vote.
As both will be in the EU they operate in a single market.
That Scotland from day one of independence will be a EU member state is but one of the many leaps of faith that the Yes campaign relies on to avoid answering any questions as to what happens if all does not go according to their plan or as the No campaign would describe it wishful thinking.
What trade agreement would this be? As both will be in the EU they operate in a single market. The UK has zero power as there are no seperate trade agreements between EU countries. Further, at the WTO UK is represented by the EU.
The UK has a shared import/export policy with other European Union (EU) countries. This means EU countries work together to negotiate trade agreements with non-EU countries.
This arrangement is part of the Common Commercial Policy – an agreement where the EU represents all its member states in trade negotiations with non-EU countries.
You really have no idea what you are speaking about.
And the agreements have to be centrally ratifiied and can be blocked by countries. I would suggest (as is clear from all of your posts) that you have no idea what you are talking about.
Might I respectfully suggest that if you are concerned as you clearly are then you seek professional advice including from your mortgage company?
Taking advice from posters on this forum is not a good idea. ;-)
Thanks Tigger, I am actually waiting for my IFA to come back off his hols next week so I can ask him, oh, about 50 questions - I hope he's had a relaxing break....:)
Then you have multinational companies like Santander (Spanish) who set up companies in the UK to sell mortgages etc etc.
can't seem to remember much outcry about that.
Yet another non story.
Santander UK is a UK company with UK based directors. Any mortgages secured against Scottish property would have to be hived off to a Scottish subsidiary or sold to a Scottish company.
Does ANY UK bank allow mortgages secured against foreign property? If it did there would a danger of people shopping around worldwide for the cheapest mortgage. Overnight the mortgage industries of the most expensive countries would be destroyed,
.Scottish independence: FORMER SNP deputy leader Jim Sillars has claimed there will be a “day of reckoning” for major Scottish employers such as Royal Bank of Scotland and Standard Life after a Yes vote.
Anyway, time to go home for the weekend. All I ask of the Scots out there is to think about whether the Union has been good for Scotland or bad over the last 300 years. Vote Yes because you love the idea of not being part of the UK. Not because Scotland will be financially stronger, politically stronger, more socially conscious, have better politicians. All of that is probably false. But if you feel stifled and frustrated when people say you are British rather than Scottish then vote Yes.
I think this is part of the 'make oil companies bend at the knee in front of us' speech. Never, ever let politicians talk business, they know nothing about it.
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But there is NO NEED for it to come to this. This only applies if Scotland tries to wield knife in the negotiations compared to the gun that the UK would be holding.
Try getting a sovereign nation into a foreign court.
There is this thing called state immunity.
"Our mission is to position Scotland among the world's top 3 producers of premium food and drink products and generate £16.5 billion per annum for our industry by 2017."
Posted from earlier.
The acquis in the area of economic and monetary policy contains specific rules requiring the independence of central banks in Member States,
You do not need our support at all, just comply to the rules of the union you desire to join
Posted: Sep 11, 2014 11:47 AM BST
Updated: Sep 11, 2014 9:48 PM BST
By JOSEPH WILSON and ALAN CLENDENNING
Associated Press
BARCELONA, Spain (AP) - Hundreds of thousands of Catalans energized by Scotland's upcoming independence referendum protested on Thursday for a secession vote aimed at carving out a new Mediterranean nation in what is now northeastern Spain.
The events illustrated how the Scottish vote in just one week is captivating breakaway minded Europeans in several countries.,
http://www.wncn.com/story/26504991/eying-scotland-spain-catalans-seek-secession-vote
One reason why iScotland might not be accepted into the EU in the short/medium term....
that's not a fact
What trade agreement would this be? As both will be in the EU they operate in a single market. The UK has zero power as there are no seperate trade agreements between EU countries. Further, at the WTO UK is represented by the EU.
https://www.gov.uk/government/policies/reducing-barriers-to-international-free-trade--3/supporting-pages/international-trade-agreements
The UK has a shared import/export policy with other European Union (EU) countries. This means EU countries work together to negotiate trade agreements with non-EU countries.
This arrangement is part of the Common Commercial Policy – an agreement where the EU represents all its member states in trade negotiations with non-EU countries.
You really have no idea what you are speaking about.
YES IT IS.
'The acquis in the area of economic and monetary policy contains specific rules requiring the independence of central banks in Member States.'
My lord, you all live in dreamland.
Yeah, you believe that.
best let the grown ups do the debating eh.
Especially when the head of the EU says the total opposite.
oh dear, some folk really have no idea when to stop digging.
So tell me what central bank you have planned?
See:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/64124bfa-97cb-11e3-8dc3-00144feab7de.html#axzz3D6wfa8uf
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-28943041
No. Because I expect Scotland to vote to stay part of the UK. Have you even read my earlier posts? This is in the context of Scotland trying to negotiate "no pound no debt". In that situation you will not become a member of the EU as I would anticipate we will block your membership.
If we go our seperate ways I am virtually certain that Scotland will have the most minute part of any discussion in rUK regarding an in out EU vote.
It will be what the London media want.
That's an assumption
Might I respectfully suggest that if you are concerned as you clearly are then you seek professional advice including from your mortgage company?
Taking advice from posters on this forum is not a good idea. ;-)
What central bank do you have planned to ensure an initial interview into the EU?
Thanks Tigger, I am actually waiting for my IFA to come back off his hols next week so I can ask him, oh, about 50 questions - I hope he's had a relaxing break....:)
Does ANY UK bank allow mortgages secured against foreign property? If it did there would a danger of people shopping around worldwide for the cheapest mortgage. Overnight the mortgage industries of the most expensive countries would be destroyed,
So, are their true colours are showing at last?
There isn't one Davzer.
I think this is part of the 'make oil companies bend at the knee in front of us' speech. Never, ever let politicians talk business, they know nothing about it.