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If your a women and you vote for Jim tell me why !

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    tq21tq21 Posts: 1,693
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    flower 2 wrote: »
    Don't you do anything for anybody else?

    yes of course I do, I'm a surgeon, I have helped save many a life, at home though household chores are divided up equally, if I make breakfast today, my husband will make breakfast tomorrow, so on & so forth
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    flower 2flower 2 Posts: 13,585
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    tq21 wrote: »
    yes of course I do, I'm a surgeon, I have helped save many a life, at home though household chores are divided up equally, if I make breakfast today, my husband will make breakfast tomorrow, so on & so forth

    Most women who iron their husbands shirts employ the same system within their households, the 'chores' are shared.
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    tq21tq21 Posts: 1,693
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    flower 2 wrote: »
    Most women who iron their husbands shirts employ the same system within their households, the 'chores' are shared.

    well when it comes to laundry I iron my own clothes, I would love to say my husband irons his own shirts but he hates ironing so he sends them to the local laundry service, he wouldn't dream of asking me to iron his shirts.
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    summertime09summertime09 Posts: 10,013
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    Because they "know their place"?

    I dunno. Just guessing aloud...

    JEEZE! WHO made you God!!! astounding arrogance!!>:(>:(
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    summertime09summertime09 Posts: 10,013
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    flower 2 wrote: »
    Some of those stuck in the 1950's lived long and harmonious marriages, not sweating the small stuff.

    WELL SAID!!
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    flower 2flower 2 Posts: 13,585
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    tq21 wrote: »
    well when it comes to laundry I iron my own clothes, I would love to say my husband irons his own shirts but he hates ironing so he sends them to local laundry service, he wouldn't dream of asking me to iron his shirts.

    Is there nothing he could do for you that you can't or hate doing?

    You'd save a lot as a couple on laundry costs if you worked together.
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    tq21tq21 Posts: 1,693
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    WELL SAID!!

    Some of those weren't in harmonious relationships at all, a lot of women were trapped in marriages with brutal men because they didn't have access to the household finances. In the 1950's, generally, if you were female you had to have a male co-sign any bank loan you applied for. My grandmother was one such woman, who often told me the happiest day of her life was the day my grandfather died.
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    Dave MacDave Mac Posts: 2,047
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    tq21 wrote: »
    well when it comes to laundry I iron my own clothes, I would love to say my husband irons his own shirts but he hates ironing so he sends them to the local laundry service, he wouldn't dream of asking me to iron his shirts.

    That's kind of sad.

    But if it works it works I suppose.
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    tq21tq21 Posts: 1,693
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    flower 2 wrote: »
    Is there nothing he could do for you that you can't or hate doing?

    You'd save a lot as a couple on laundry costs if you worked together.

    No I'm fairly self sufficient, I'm one of those "freaks" that loves cleaning a bathroom, I find it really cathartic. He pays his own laundry costs so it doesn't really affect me and he's happy too.
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    summertime09summertime09 Posts: 10,013
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    tq21 wrote: »
    Some of those weren't in harmonious relationships at all, a lot of women were trapped in marriages with brutal men because they didn't have access to the household finances. In the 1950's, generally, if you were female you had to have a male co-sign any bank loan you applied for. My grandmother was one such woman, who often told me the happiest day of her life was the day my grandfather died.

    And many were, WHY feel the need to tell others HOW to live, and that the way YOU subscribe is right!!! Ironing your husbands shirts dosent make one some tied to the sink "Stepford wife"!! what gives YOU the right to judge anyone!!
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,525
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    tq21 wrote: »
    Some of those weren't in harmonious relationships at all, a lot of women were trapped in marriages with brutal men because they didn't have access to the household finances. In the 1950's, generally, if you were female you had to have a male co-sign any bank loan you applied for. My grandmother was one such woman, who often told me the happiest day of her life was the day my grandfather died.

    I dont think anybody is saying that things in early generations were fare toward women there has been vast improvements ..thankfully..but its also about choices. You choose to iron your clothes and send hubbies to laundry..your choice ..others choose to iron their husbands shirt..why is that wrong and youre right?
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    flower 2flower 2 Posts: 13,585
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    tq21 wrote: »
    Some of those weren't in harmonious relationships at all, a lot of women were trapped in marriages with brutal men because they didn't have access to the household finances. In the 1950's, generally, if you were female you had to have a male co-sign any bank loan you applied for. My grandmother was one such woman, who often told me the happiest day of her life was the day my grandfather died.

    The rights to equality for women in this country have been resolved, and I don't think the issue of who irons men's shirts was considered important enough to be applied to a legal paper.

    There are still many unhappy marriages now and I suspect that that unhappiness is not down to who irons whose shirts.
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    tq21tq21 Posts: 1,693
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    And many were, WHY feel the need to tell others HOW to live, and that the way YOU subscribe is right!!! Ironing your husbands shirts dosent make one some tied to the sink "Stepford wife"!! what gives YOU the right to judge anyone!!

    I'm not judging people who do, I'm judging someone who thinks that it is automatically a women's "job" to iron her husbands shirts there is a vast difference!
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,525
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    tq21 wrote: »
    I'm not judging people who do, I'm judging someone who thinks that it is automatically a women's "job" to iron her husbands shirts there is a vast difference!

    Ok i get your point but can i ask ..if your husband needed a shirt ironing in an emergency and asked you ..would you be insulted he asked you and refuse or do it? This is bearing in mind he sends his shirts to laundry and doesnt know how to iron and its closed
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    tq21tq21 Posts: 1,693
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    flower 2 wrote: »
    The rights to equality for women in this country have been resolved, and I don't think the issue of who irons men's shirts was considered important enough to be applied to a legal paper.

    There are still many unhappy marriages now and I suspect that that unhappiness is not down to who irons whose shirts.

    Actually equality between the sexes hasn't totally been resolved, there is still a large pay gap between male & females.
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    sutiesutie Posts: 32,645
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    YesNoMan wrote: »
    Because they can? Because they are actually allowed to, without being called blind or dumb or even "Bless"?



    (you're)



    Quite. 'Bless' is such a lazy insult.

    I like him because I find him far more interesting and intriguing that all the rest of the house put together.
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    flower 2flower 2 Posts: 13,585
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    tq21 wrote: »
    I'm not judging people who do, I'm judging someone who thinks that it is automatically a women's "job" to iron her husbands shirts there is a vast difference!

    What do you think of a woman that automatically thinks it is alright to call a man bad names, but that it is not alright for a man to call a woman bad names?
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    tq21tq21 Posts: 1,693
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    cazziekay wrote: »
    Ok i get your point but can i ask ..if your husband needed a shirt ironing in an emergency and asked you ..would you be insulted he asked you and refuse or do it? This is bearing in mind he sends his shirts to laundry and doesnt know how to iron and its closed

    It's an interesting question, in 15 years it has never arisen, I don't think he'd ask, but if I saw him in need I'd probably offer, I'm not that much of an ogre.
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    flower 2flower 2 Posts: 13,585
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    tq21 wrote: »
    Actually equality between the sexes hasn't totally been resolved, there is still a large pay gap between male & females.

    In any job I have had I have received the same salary as a man would if doing the same job.
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    yogacatsyogacats Posts: 6,954
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    tq21 wrote: »
    He didn't just say his wife ironed HIS shirts, he was flabbergasted that Luisa didn't iron her husbands shirts & even went on to say next we will be seeing adverts in lads mags for irons.

    And I am not petty, unthinking, ignorant or stupid I just don't like people who are stuck in the 1950's.

    I think flabbergasted is too strong an expression to use. I really don't think Jim is 'stuck in the 50s'.
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    summertime09summertime09 Posts: 10,013
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    I have not long finished a huge pile of ironing, mine, husbands and kids, HE on the other hand was doing the weekly shop!!
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    tq21tq21 Posts: 1,693
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    flower 2 wrote: »
    What do you think of a woman that automatically thinks it is alright to call a man bad names, but that it is not alright for a man to call a woman bad names?

    I don't think that's right either, you can't demand equality and then turn around and say you can't do that to me because you are male & I am female.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,525
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    tq21 wrote: »
    It's an interesting question, in 15 years it has never arisen, I don't think he'd ask, but if I saw him in need I'd probably offer, I'm not that much of an ogre.

    Lol i just wondered. Thanks for answering :)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 167
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    Hes funny!
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    tq21tq21 Posts: 1,693
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    flower 2 wrote: »
    In any job I have had I have received the same salary as a man would if doing the same job.

    I don't know what career you have, but definitely in certain professions there is a large gap between males & females. It's called "Gender Pay Gap" if you want to google it.
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