Motorcyclists killed after 'driving on the wrong side of road'

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The families of three British motorcyclists killed last night in a horrific crash while on a touring holiday in Italy have said the trio were experienced riders.

The three, two men and a woman, collided head-on with a lorry carrying building material as they came out of a tunnel. A fourth woman survived the crash but is now hospitalised in critical condition.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1215480/Three-British-motorcyclists-killed-Italy-driving-wrong-road.html#ixzz0RwaDkvUz

The sooner we all drive on the same side in Europe the better.
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  • Pugwash69Pugwash69 Posts: 3,787
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    They do say the road is badly marked.
    I think my satnav has a reminder about side of the road when abroad. It's not so obvious on a bike.
  • Mark.Mark. Posts: 84,896
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    DarkJedi wrote: »
    The sooner we all drive on the same side in Europe the better.
    If you're planing to use the roads in a foreign country, it's basic common sense to double-check what side to drive on.
  • MoonyMoony Posts: 15,093
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    DarkJedi wrote: »
    The sooner we all drive on the same side in Europe the better.

    A bit of an overreaction - the vast majority of us dont have a problem switching to the other side of the road when the need arises.
  • DarkJediDarkJedi Posts: 321
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    Mark. wrote: »
    If you're planing to use the roads in a foreign country, it's basic common sense to double-check what side to drive on.


    Tell that to the drivers.
  • 2shy20072shy2007 Posts: 52,579
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    Mark. wrote: »
    If you're planing to use the roads in a foreign country, it's basic common sense to double-check what side to drive on.

    I agree, it is up to the individual to make sure they know the rules of the road in that country.

    Changing over to the right hand side here because of an accident there, will cause all kinds of problems, and will probably cause many more deaths in the process.
  • MoonyMoony Posts: 15,093
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    DarkJedi wrote: »
    Tell that to the drivers.

    Drivers - listen up:

    When going to a foreign country - please check what side of the road you are supposed to be driving on.

    Cheers!
  • jrmswfcjrmswfc Posts: 5,644
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    Moony wrote: »
    A bit of an overreaction - the vast majority of us dont have a problem switching to the other side of the road when the need arises.

    True, and the group had been riding in Europe for a week beforehand, it's not as if they got straight off the plane and forgot about the fact that they drive on the other side of the road over there. It seems from the article that a confusing or badly signposted road layout may have been the cause.

    However, for all four bikes to be hit at once, they must have been riding rather dangerously close together?
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 22,378
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    DarkJedi wrote: »
    The sooner we all drive on the same side in Europe the better.

    It seems to be more about the actual changing of the road from single to dual carriageway (or vice versa) and the poor signposting of that that seems to be the issue as opposed to a driving on the left or right problem.
  • Mark.Mark. Posts: 84,896
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    DarkJedi wrote: »
    Tell that to the drivers.
    I would if they weren't dead.

    But I'm also telling you, because you seem to think the solution to three people driving on the wrong side of the road in Italy is for the whole of the UK to switch.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,328
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    Moony wrote: »
    A bit of an overreaction - the vast majority of us dont have a problem switching to the other side of the road when the need arises.

    Driven quite a bit abroad, it is very easy to forget which side of the road to drive on, especially when coming out of a junction, you automatically look the wrong way, did it mysself near Zeebrugge, on a bloody dual carriageway, turned right at some lights onto dual carriageway, completely missed keep right sign, proceeded to drive down left hand side of carriageway, saw motorcar coming other way on 'my' side, went ofver central reservation and luckily there was hardly any traffic or there could have been a seriosu accident, all for a moments lapse of concentration.
  • Red OkktoberRed Okktober Posts: 10,434
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    I heard a fascinating item on the radio a week or two back, when a country (can't remember which one but think it was in Africa) switched over sides. At a given time of the day, everyone had to start driving on the other side - imagine the chaos
  • adopteradopter Posts: 11,937
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    Mark. wrote: »
    I would if they weren't dead.

    But I'm also telling you, because you seem to think the solution to three people driving on the wrong side of the road in Italy is for the whole of the UK to switch.

    Or the whole of the rest of Europe to switch.
  • adopteradopter Posts: 11,937
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    I heard a fascinating item on the radio a week or two back, when a country (can't remember which one but think it was in Africa) switched over sides. At a given time of the day, everyone had to start driving on the other side - imagine the chaos

    Well if you were stupid enough to introduce it like that then it would be chaos.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,328
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    I heard a fascinating item on the radio a week or two back, when a country (can't remember which one but think it was in Africa) switched over sides. At a given time of the day, everyone had to start driving on the other side - imagine the chaos

    Could that have been Sweden?
  • Mark.Mark. Posts: 84,896
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    adopter wrote: »
    Or the whole of the rest of Europe to switch.
    That would be typically British, it has to be said.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,426
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    Mark. wrote: »
    I would if they weren't dead.

    But I'm also telling you, because you seem to think the solution to three people driving on the wrong side of the road in Italy is for the whole of the UK to switch.

    Indeed. Why do we have to switch?

    It's statistically safer to drive on the left, we're an island, we have 30 million right hand drive cars and a non symmetrical road system suited to the left (check junctions where they split into two lanes etc) that even if it was symmetrical, would cost trillions of pounds to change over
  • Mark.Mark. Posts: 84,896
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    Teh User wrote: »
    Indeed. Why do we have to switch?

    It's statistically safer to drive on the left, we're an island, we have 30 million right hand drive cars and a non symmetrical road system suited to the left (check junctions where they split into two lanes etc) that even if it was symmetrical, would cost trillions of pounds to change over
    Exactly.

    And it wouldn't be possible to simply turn off-ramps into on-ramps and vice versa, because the former and design for deceleration and the latter acceleration. So it would require almost every junction on the motorway network to be reshaped.

    Result: not worth it in the slightest.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,426
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    john5197 wrote: »
    Could that have been Sweden?

    Samoa. They changed sides a week and a bit ago from right to left.
  • sadoldbirdsadoldbird Posts: 9,626
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    DarkJedi wrote: »
    The sooner we all drive on the same side in Europe the better.[/QUOTE]


    Johnny Foreigner, get to the left, I'm British you know!

    Of course, we're a bit outnumbered on this. Both European and worldwide.

    So, if conformity is to be the rule, we're the ones who are going to have to adjust.
  • sadoldbirdsadoldbird Posts: 9,626
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    Sorry - yet another double post.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 356
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    Mark. wrote: »
    That would be typically British, it has to be said.

    The UK drives on the correct side of the road. Historically traffic drove on the left. Europe drives on the right because they followed the French who only switched to be contrary, which is typically French.

    Changing the UK to drive on the wrong side of the road would be a mammoth undertaking. All signs would need to be reversed, motorways and "A" roads would have to close while junctions are rebuilt, service stations would also need to be relayed out for access, car park barriers would be wrong, all bus stops would now face the wrong way and not forgetting the millions upon millions of now confused drivers who would be driving less safe cars.
  • trevalyantrevalyan Posts: 7,705
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    yup, that'll usually do it
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 660
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    Most motorcyclists drive on whichever side of the road they like, weaving in and out of traffic and driving and excessive speeds. Just to generalise.
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