Naomi Campbell: Posh doesn't use black models

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http://metro.co.uk/2013/10/29/naomi-campbell-i-had-no-fear-of-upsetting-victoria-beckham-over-model-race-row-4165552/

She says she called Victoria about it but doesn't say what her response was.....
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  • gregsanisongregsanison Posts: 648
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    Naomi bleaches her skin and does NOT have an Afro! She is the last one thing to cry out racism! She is also a thumping bad tempered bully! She was caught on a video on a plane having a rage!

    She was dragged up in South London. Nuff said!
  • Naa_KwaKaiNaa_KwaKai Posts: 1,883
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    Naomi bleaches her skin and does NOT have an Afro! She is the last one thing to cry out racism! She is also a thumping bad tempered bully! She was caught on a video on a plane having a rage!

    She was dragged up in South London. Nuff said!

    Where is the proof that she bleaches her skin?
    And if every black woman choosing not to have an Afro makes them racist then that's basically most black women on the planet.

    Having said, the woman is bat-shit insane.
  • gregsanisongregsanison Posts: 648
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    Some of the most beautiful women in the world are black and have afros. Naomi is such a skinny nobody
  • Naa_KwaKaiNaa_KwaKai Posts: 1,883
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    Some of the most beautiful women in the world are black and have afros. Naomi is such a skinny nobody

    Yes, but not having one doesn't make a black woman racist against her own race...
  • OsusanaOsusana Posts: 7,485
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    No Naomi dahhhling, she just does not use you

    And that is because you are well past your Best Before date............
  • TakaeTakae Posts: 13,555
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    Naomi bleaches her skin and does NOT have an Afro! She is the last one thing to cry out racism! She is also a thumping bad tempered bully! She was caught on a video on a plane having a rage!

    She was dragged up in South London. Nuff said!

    What a weird thing to say. Do you even know any white person who hasn't dyed, styled or/and permed their hair and tried a suntan at least once in their life? Do you declare them racist to their own race for not having their hair and skin remain "natural"? No? Then why the double standard?

    And since when that only nice, kind and calm people with 100% untouched appearances, clean slates and decent birthplaces can be the ones that get to "cry racism"? Newsflash: even nasty pieces of work aren't blind to see what wrong with the picture, and they don't always manage to avoid being affected by what they see. I mean, hello?

    Naomi can be a real dick, but what does her past behaviour and alleged personal choices have to do with a fact that some fashion designers like Victoria haven't been using non-white models in their fashion shows? :confused:
  • dee123dee123 Posts: 46,253
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    You see, i might actually pay attention if it wasn't such a horrible person saying it.
  • lexi22lexi22 Posts: 16,394
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    Takae wrote: »
    What a weird thing to say. Do you even know any white person who hasn't dyed, styled or/and permed their hair and tried a suntan at least once in their life? Do you declare them racist to their own race for not having their hair and skin remain "natural"? No? Then why the double standard?

    And since when that only nice, kind and calm people with 100% untouched appearances, clean slates and decent birthplaces can be the ones that get to "cry racism"? Newsflash: even nasty pieces of work aren't blind to see what wrong with the picture, and they don't always manage to avoid being affected by what they see. I mean, hello?

    Naomi can be a real dick, but what does her past behaviour and alleged personal choices have to do with a fact that some fashion designers like Victoria haven't been using non-white models in their fashion shows? :confused:

    Agree. It's a major issue in the fashion industry - catwalk and editorial - and VB is only one of many names on the list of those who underuse/fail to use black models. As hideous as Naomi can be, she has a valid point, and as one of the few black models who has managed to maintain a successful career for over 2 decades and knows the business inside out, she has every right to be vocal about it.
  • The PrumeisterThe Prumeister Posts: 22,398
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    Naomi bleaches her skin and does NOT have an Afro! She is the last one thing to cry out racism! She is also a thumping bad tempered bully! She was caught on a video on a plane having a rage!

    She was dragged up in South London. Nuff said!



    :confused::confused::confused::confused:
  • Gail forceGail force Posts: 55
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    Couldn't help smirking at the picture a few months ago of her getting pushed on a wheel chair after getting mugged in Paris.
    What goes around goes around, even for bullies.:D
  • SloopySloopy Posts: 65,209
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    dee123 wrote: »
    You see, i might actually pay attention if it wasn't such a horrible person saying it.

    Indeed.

    This is a woman whom, for much of her career, has been accused of abusing and assaulting pretty much everyone who has crossed her path at some stage, including police officers.

    If some people don't like working with her it's probably to do with her anger issues, not her skin colour.
  • wilehelmaswilehelmas Posts: 3,610
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    Naomi, well, she always has a point. The fashion industry can be a racist, sexist, homophobic mess, like lots of industries, still. And it has an aversion to food, clearly.

    But to be fair, old Posh probably doesn't use much of the cross section of the human demographic for her models if she's true to form with the fashion industry.

    Short, average, white girls who are extremely pretty/beautiful will be overlooked left right and centre because they haven't the height and/or the right 'English Rose' look, etc. There'll be lots of disappointed budding models, for all manner of reasons.

    Case in point: most of those Italian perfume adverts on UK TV are amazingly sexist when you watch them. The women are just sex objects for the dashing man passing through. It's hilarious, they're about 20 years behind the times.
  • bornfreebornfree Posts: 16,360
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    I actually don't like Naomi Campbell. But she does have a point. Why doesn't Victoria Beckham use black models? There are some beautiful African models with lovely figures.
  • SquatchSquatch Posts: 781
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    Blah blah, whine whine, whinge whinge.

    People can use whoever they want in their adverts. Fashion is a pointless, vapid, wasteful industry anyway, so why should they be responsible for equality propaganda? Fashion is an industry, not a social service. They're out to make people buy their crap, and the reality is these designers mostly market at white countries. Even when they market at rich Asian countries, part of the appeal is that it's European, and consumers want to see indigenous Europeans in the adverts.
  • Pea1Pea1 Posts: 383
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    Squatch wrote: »
    Blah blah, whine whine, whinge whinge.

    People can use whoever they want in their adverts. Fashion is a pointless, vapid, wasteful industry anyway, so why should they be responsible for equality propaganda? Fashion is an industry, not a social service. They're out to make people buy their crap, and the reality is these designers mostly market at white countries. Even when they market at rich Asian countries, part of the appeal is that it's European, and consumers want to see indigenous Europeans in the adverts.

    Totally agree!!
  • Blondie XBlondie X Posts: 28,662
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    Naomi bleaches her skin and does NOT have an Afro! She is the last one thing to cry out racism! She is also a thumping bad tempered bully! She was caught on a video on a plane having a rage!

    She was dragged up in South London. Nuff said!

    I'm from South London and so I'd like you to explain your 'nuff said' because I don't think it does explain whatever point you're trying to make
  • mialiciousmialicious Posts: 4,686
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    why is naomi campbell highlighting victoria beckhams name to make her point. seems weird. there must be some underlying tension between them.
  • SloopySloopy Posts: 65,209
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    mialicious wrote: »
    why is naomi campbell highlighting victoria beckhams name to make her point. seems weird. there must be some underlying tension between them.

    There is history between them - remember the alleged "Why do they call you Posh?/Why do they call you beautiful?" exchange a few years ago?

    Then they were 'best mates' for a while, but perhaps things have turned sour again. Unsurprising, since there are two very big egos being wrestled here.
  • somerset foxsomerset fox Posts: 728
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    No wonder Naomi keeps falling over. That huge great chip on her shoulder is off balancing her!
  • vauxhall1964vauxhall1964 Posts: 10,351
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    bornfree wrote: »
    I actually don't like Naomi Campbell. But she does have a point. Why doesn't Victoria Beckham use black models? There are some beautiful African models with lovely figures.

    Beckham didn't use all white models at her show but it wasn't enough to keep Naomi Campbell happy. I suspect given her awful public image Campbell is latching on to this cause as damage limitation. She is a byeword for vile behaviour after all... about as far away as a positive role model for black models as it's possible to get, ironically.
  • Blockz99Blockz99 Posts: 5,045
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    Squatch wrote: »
    Blah blah, whine whine, whinge whinge.

    People can use whoever they want in their adverts. Fashion is a pointless, vapid, wasteful industry anyway, so why should they be responsible for equality propaganda? Fashion is an industry, not a social service. They're out to make people buy their crap, and the reality is these designers mostly market at white countries. Even when they market at rich Asian countries, part of the appeal is that it's European, and consumers want to see indigenous Europeans in the adverts.

    This is spot on ..If Africa was the fashion industries prime market then they would use black models...it's called economics
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    Sloopy wrote: »
    If some people don't like working with her it's probably to do with her anger issues, not her skin colour.
    This is about black models in general, not just the one who raised the problem.

    lexi22 wrote: »
    Agree. It's a major issue in the fashion industry - catwalk and editorial - and VB is only one of many names on the list of those who underuse/fail to use black models. As hideous as Naomi can be, she has a valid point, and as one of the few black models who has managed to maintain a successful career for over 2 decades and knows the business inside out, she has every right to be vocal about it.
    Exactly.

    Squatch wrote: »
    Blah blah, whine whine, whinge whinge.

    People can use whoever they want in their adverts. Fashion is a pointless, vapid, wasteful industry anyway, so why should they be responsible for equality propaganda? Fashion is an industry, not a social service. They're out to make people buy their crap, and the reality is these designers mostly market at white countries. Even when they market at rich Asian countries, part of the appeal is that it's European, and consumers want to see indigenous Europeans in the adverts.
    Accusations of whinging: typical behaviour of people who are obviously never affected by factors like this and who would like for others to have to put up with unsatisfactory situations and not to have the right to comment or seek action.

    How would using black models make anyone responsible for equality propaganda? :rolleyes: Employing a range of people of different ethnicities is perfectly normal and reasonable, not an act of propaganda. Continually selecting only white models looks very much like a deliberate act of discrimination.

    Most western nations are not 'white countries'. They are multi-ethnic.

    "consumers want to see indigenous Europeans". .. and a spokesperson for consumers now as well.
  • SloopySloopy Posts: 65,209
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    Ms. Campbell has the victim card in her pocket. That is if she can find the time, in between attending court for her numerous assault cases over the years.

    If she wants to talk about the abuse and poor treatment of other human beings, perhaps she should begin with those who have been unfortunate enough to cross her path.
  • Susie_WilcoxSusie_Wilcox Posts: 1,014
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    You could also complain that Posh does not design for women over a size 8....that is far more worthy of a whinge than what colour skin her models have or dont have :cool:
  • Ella NutElla Nut Posts: 8,973
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    You could also complain that Posh does not design for women over a size 8....that is far more worthy of a whinge than what colour skin her models have or dont have :cool:

    Well a quick peek at her website and clicking on one frock tells me I can buy it in sizes 6 - 14 so you're quite wrong.

    As for La Campbell. Adam Clayton had a lucky escape.
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