I know there are good cops and bad cops and some inbetween.But on the rare occasion i see them fighting.I think 'that's not right'.No one should have to put up with stuff like that trying to enforce the law.
Well I think that we all use personal experiences as examples, I've helped the police, paramedics etc lots of times but if I thought the police were using bullying tactics I would also speak out for the victim.
I would like to reply - Yes, However in view of the lack of interest shown by the police when contacted regarding assistance over continual vandalism and break ins to our premises from a small group of local identifiable villains then I would offer them the same degree of assistance and interest they offered me - None !
I'm sure you'll enjoy the day you walk on past a copper needing assistance and the guy escapes arrest who later turns out to be someone who'd just robbed your place
My brother recently retired from the Police.He's told me all the horror stories from over his career.I've never had a bad experience from them,but I am aware of the bad apples that people encounter.
Like yourself,i'd find it hasrder to walk on by than to lend a hand.It's the right thing to do in my conscience.
I'm sure you'll enjoy the day you walk on past a copper needing assistance and the guy escapes arrest who later turns out to be someone who'd just robbed your place
You mean, like, if you'd just got a job as a novelty wrestler and you failed to help a cop catch a thug who went on to murder your uncle and left you to look after your frail aunt on a meagre news photographer's wages?
You mean, like, if you'd just got a job as a novelty wrestler and you failed to help a cop catch a thug who went on to murder your uncle and left you to look after your frail aunt on a meagre news photographer's wages?
exlordlucan is spiderman that's where he's been all this time!
Believe it or not there is an offence of 'refusing to assist a constable'.
'...when called upon to do so'
I have intervened in a man/woman situation. And it did turn out they 'knew' each other and she didn't want help. But I thought he was a random (violent) drunk.
I've never had to but I hope I'd help out the law if the circumstances arose.
I suppose walking on by is the 'self preservation' option.
i have the benefit of being a former policeman and am a martial arts instructor so i am familiar with all the home office approved techniques of restraint
I have intervened in a man/woman situation. And it did turn out they 'knew' each other and she didn't want help. But I thought he was a random (violent) drunk.
I left them to it.
Even the Cops in Rab C Nesbitt used to walk on by.Referring to it as 'a domestic'.'Leave them to it son' said the wise old Sgt to the young probationer.
Even when the husband had a knife sticking out of his back.
'Probably came home with a burst pay packet i'll wager'.:p
Hmmm that's a difficult one. I'd like to say yes but in reality it would depend entirely on the circumstances. And as a smallish female I'm not sure I'd be able to help much anyway! However my Dad was a sergeant in the police so if it was him struggling to arrest someone then of course I'd have rushed to his aid!
Even the Cops in Rab C Nesbitt used to walk on by.Referring to it as 'a domestic'.'Leave them to it son' said the wise old Sgt to the young probationer.
Even when the husband had a knife sticking out of his back.
'Probably came home with a burst pay packet i'll wager'.:p
Difficult to argue with that, although it could be said that the degree of disinterest shown by whoever declined to send someone to help you, has little bearing on the individual copper needing immediate assistance.
I don't like seeing real life violence.Obviously I wouldn't stick my neck out for any old fight in the street.But it's kind of gut wrenching to see Police Officers getting a kicking.
Hmmm that's a difficult one. I'd like to say yes but in reality it would depend entirely on the circumstances. And as a smallish female I'm not sure I'd be able to help much anyway! However my Dad was a sergeant in the police so if it was him struggling to arrest someone then of course I'd have rushed to his aid!
Being a smallish female normally helps situations. The big guys won't try to push you about and it defuses situations. In my experience the tough guy always gives in!
Besides, its an offence in common law to refuse assistance to a police officer who is attempting to maintain the peace, if requested to do so.
My(retired Police) brother and his family had to move house when some bad boys found out where he lived.Cut the brake pipes on his car,smashed windows etc.They knew who'd done it.Just couldn't prove it.It's the stuff people never get to hear about.
Yes I'd go and help I'd be more worried about if the attacker had a weapon of some sort instead of whether he was going to sue me. His claim against me would need to start with "While I was resisting arrest by assaulting a police officer...." and I doubt it would be taken seriously by anyone.
Yes I'd help but then I'm not speaking from an unbiased perspective obviously. For those concerned about legal backlash - ensure the officers knows your intentions (tell them you're going to help) and so long as your actions are reasonable and in good faith then you shouldn't get in trouble even if the police officer later does. That being said I can understand why people wouldn't help, to an extent.
Believe it or not there is an offence of 'refusing to assist a constable'.
I don't think I'd have any trouble grabbing a pair of legs or sitting on someone.Unless his mates came to the rescue.Then it would be a 100m sprint out of it.
'Officer down!'.
My(retired Police) brother and his family had to move house when some bad boys found out where he lived.Cut the brake pipes on his car,smashed windows etc.They knew who'd done it.Just couldn't prove it.It's the stuff people never get to hear about.
When i was in the job, we had a Special who, having been just appointed and given his uniform, one day patrolled his own street on a council estate, in full uniform, checking tax disks. He was plankton and didn't last long. You can guess what life for him was like in his street after that. We were getting called to his house all the time.
Well I think that we all use personal experiences as examples, I've helped the police, paramedics etc lots of times but if I thought the police were using bullying tactics I would also speak out for the victim.
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Well I think that we all use personal experiences as examples, I've helped the police, paramedics etc lots of times but if I thought the police were using bullying tactics I would also speak out for the victim.
I'm sure you'll enjoy the day you walk on past a copper needing assistance and the guy escapes arrest who later turns out to be someone who'd just robbed your place
My brother recently retired from the Police.He's told me all the horror stories from over his career.I've never had a bad experience from them,but I am aware of the bad apples that people encounter.
Like yourself,i'd find it hasrder to walk on by than to lend a hand.It's the right thing to do in my conscience.
You mean, like, if you'd just got a job as a novelty wrestler and you failed to help a cop catch a thug who went on to murder your uncle and left you to look after your frail aunt on a meagre news photographer's wages?
exlordlucan is spiderman that's where he's been all this time!
'...when called upon to do so'
I have intervened in a man/woman situation. And it did turn out they 'knew' each other and she didn't want help. But I thought he was a random (violent) drunk.
I left them to it.
Doorman/Bouncer?.They have to step in to help all the time.
i have the benefit of being a former policeman and am a martial arts instructor so i am familiar with all the home office approved techniques of restraint
Even the Cops in Rab C Nesbitt used to walk on by.Referring to it as 'a domestic'.'Leave them to it son' said the wise old Sgt to the young probationer.
Even when the husband had a knife sticking out of his back.
'Probably came home with a burst pay packet i'll wager'.:p
Ah, that'll be Scottish law, different rules
999 and ask for the Po-lice.:p
Aye Glasgow Govan.:D
Or 'Polis' if north of the border
I don't like seeing real life violence.Obviously I wouldn't stick my neck out for any old fight in the street.But it's kind of gut wrenching to see Police Officers getting a kicking.
Being a smallish female normally helps situations. The big guys won't try to push you about and it defuses situations. In my experience the tough guy always gives in!
My(retired Police) brother and his family had to move house when some bad boys found out where he lived.Cut the brake pipes on his car,smashed windows etc.They knew who'd done it.Just couldn't prove it.It's the stuff people never get to hear about.
Or he might bite you.Have AIDS or Hep B etc.
Yes or that too
I don't think I'd have any trouble grabbing a pair of legs or sitting on someone.Unless his mates came to the rescue.Then it would be a 100m sprint out of it.
'Officer down!'.
When i was in the job, we had a Special who, having been just appointed and given his uniform, one day patrolled his own street on a council estate, in full uniform, checking tax disks. He was plankton and didn't last long. You can guess what life for him was like in his street after that. We were getting called to his house all the time.
For sure.The truth must be told.