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What channels would you like next on Com8?

tvmad-alantvmad-alan Posts: 1,996
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Freeview has come alive over last few months with some channels going or moving and some new channels too. :cool:
We now have Com 8 mux live after almost 18 months after Com 7 which was both were given the go ahead and given a five year life by OFCOM & ARQIVA. :confused:

We have on Com 8 two HD channels which are QVC+1 HD on EPG 111 & QVC Beauty HD on EPG 112. :o yes shopping channels in HD

Now what type of channels would hope to now see along with above named channels ?

Seen that Com 7 give us some HD channels but also SD channels too.

HD Channels ? ;-)
Film 4 HD
Channel 5 HD
ITVBe HD

SD Channels ? :)
CBS Horror +1
CBS Drama
Sky Sports News HQ
TCM
Pick TV +1
TJC Choice

We could see BBC One+1 SD coming along faster with space on Freeview which may be that BBC Three HD & SD may not close down on TV?

We also could see some part time Freeview channels move to become full time, which would give space for new part time channels ?

Nice to see Freeview grow:)
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    Secret-SquirrelSecret-Squirrel Posts: 1,053
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    How long before someone proposes UK Gold?????????
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    kasgkasg Posts: 4,720
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    tvmad-alan wrote: »
    We could see BBC One+1 SD coming along faster with space on Freeview which may be that BBC Three HD & SD may not close down on TV?
    The closure of BBC Three has nothing to do with BBC One+1 and availability of space so is irrelevant to this.
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    soulboy77soulboy77 Posts: 24,494
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    I can't understand why people would wish for +1 channels, rather have a new channel or HD version of an existing SD ones fill the space. Also channels that are currently pay elsewhere would seem very unlikely to come.
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    ntscuserntscuser Posts: 8,246
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    soulboy77 wrote: »
    I can't understand why people would wish for +1 channels

    Possibly, like me, they're too senile to remember what time anything starts or to set the PVR? :D
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    Secret-SquirrelSecret-Squirrel Posts: 1,053
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    +1 channels do have their uses as there is often a clash at 9 or 10pm when there are 3 programmes worth recording when you can only record 2 sumiltaneously. One can be recorded on a +1 channel.
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    Mickey_TMickey_T Posts: 4,962
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    The main thing I would like to see with all this extra space, is for SD channels to be broadcast at a minimum resolution of 704x576 for 16:9 widescreen broadcasts instead of the ridiculous 544x576 were currently lumbered with.

    Sadly thanks to Arqiva that ISN'T going to happen, so whatever appears on COM8 that isn't in HD is going to look crap anyway.
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    anthony davidanthony david Posts: 14,507
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    Mickey_T wrote: »
    The main thing I would like to see with all this extra space, is for SD channels to be broadcast at a minimum resolution of 704x576 for 16:9 widescreen broadcasts instead of the ridiculous 544x576 were currently lumbered with.

    Sadly thanks to Arqiva that ISN'T going to happen, so whatever appears on COM8 that isn't in HD is going to look crap anyway.

    It's a financial decision by the channels concerned. Arqiva effectively just sells MBs.
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    Mickey_TMickey_T Posts: 4,962
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    It's a financial decision by the channels concerned. Arqiva effectively just sells MBs.
    Well some channels used to be 720x576 on the Com muxes a few years ago, then they all went to 544x576, no exceptions. It seems to me that they have no choice in the matter anymore.

    If Arqiva want to sell lower res/bitrate capacity for more profit, then they should at least use a resolution that's more suited to 16:9 widescreen broadcasts.
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    tvmad-alantvmad-alan Posts: 1,996
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    It's a financial decision by the channels concerned. Arqiva effectively just sells MBs.

    This has been the big trouble with digital service on our TV bands is that space has been limited and made costs too high for some TV companies and many even got into selling space ( Hours ) on there own channel space, this is why we have betting and shopping all over the EPG at different times of the evening ,night sadly.

    This is also why channels also put out different scale of vision & sound to keep costs down ( shame )

    We need to stop selling space which belonged to our national TV service before the DSO and make sure that money made from DTT is put back into the service to give more muxes and stop these 5 year non fixed ones like com 7 & 8 which stops TV channels companies from planning ahead and giving best vision and sound to us.

    I did not understand why we could not of had the five or four channels made from the DSO put to six digital muxes to give the public TV up to 11 muxes

    BUT we have some space now and with hope this will give us all some good channels
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    DWA9ISDWA9IS Posts: 10,557
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    tvmad-alan wrote: »
    This has been the big trouble with digital service on our TV bands is that space has been limited and made costs too high for some TV companies and many even got into selling space ( Hours ) on there own channel space, this is why we have betting and shopping all over the EPG at different times of the evening ,night sadly.

    This is also why channels also put out different scale of vision & sound to keep costs down ( shame )

    We need to stop selling space which belonged to our national TV service before the DSO and make sure that money made from DTT is put back into the service to give more muxes and stop these 5 year non fixed ones like com 7 & 8 which stops TV channels companies from planning ahead and giving best vision and sound to us.

    I did not understand why we could not of had the five or four channels made from the DSO put to six digital muxes to give the public TV up to 11 muxes

    BUT we have some space now and with hope this will give us all some good channels

    I think it would have been better if each of the PSBs had been given 1 MUX per channel and and commercial channels would have had to buy space on a PSB's mux.

    This would have meant that 5 MUXs would have had to go on each relay at DSO and everything would have been available to everyone, with possibly space to squeeze a 6th mux in on main txs if there was enough bandwidth left over. This 6th MUX along with the second BBC MUX could have been DVB-T2 from the start of DSO.
    Yes over all this would have worked out to be less channels, but I think people would have been happier overall.

    Or later on do a huge single frequency network that has all regional variations at every transmitter, at places near the coast ect reduce power right down and make it directional.
    This would make it a bit like satellite where your box scans though everything available and then selects your regional variation via postcode, or in this case the first mux your box finds has the main tx details of where it is broadcast from, a sort of default mux if you like.

    I know nether ideas will be used but either could have been seen as an improvement by a lot of people.
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    ntscuserntscuser Posts: 8,246
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    +1 channels do have their uses as there is often a clash at 9 or 10pm when there are 3 programmes worth recording when you can only record 2 sumiltaneously. One can be recorded on a +1 channel.

    Trouble is they're all 3/4 SD resolution so if you miss the original broadcast the chances are you won't get to see it in full SD let alone HD. :(
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    neyney Posts: 12,516
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    +1 channels are ok for some channels but for some channels its a waste of space. I don't want to see a loads more +1 channels.
    Film4 HD would be good.
    True Movies and maybe Movies 24.
    CBS Drama.

    Darren
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    soulboy77soulboy77 Posts: 24,494
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    The following does not seem an unreasonable list seeing that they are currently FTA/FTV on satellite:
    - Sony Entertainment Television (FTV on Sky)
    - Sony Movie Channel (FTV on Sky)
    - True Movies 1
    - True Movies 2
    - CBS Drama
    - True Drama
    - BET
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    tompaynetompayne Posts: 304
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    +1 channels are useful. Look at the viewing figures.

    I think a large amount of viewers simple change channels by going up and down on the EPG to see what happens to be on. If that happens to be on a +1 channel doesn't bother them.

    I dont have a source for this, but I imagine people who use this forum are considerably more invested in their TV viewing than the general public. For those that don't take the time to plan their recordings and simply pick up a TV guide to see what is on now, or scan through the EPG, +1's have their place.
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    anthony davidanthony david Posts: 14,507
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    ntscuser wrote: »
    Trouble is they're all 3/4 SD resolution so if you miss the original broadcast the chances are you won't get to see it in full SD let alone HD. :(

    Buy a recorder if that bothers you, its just a useful catch up service if you miss something and haven't got access to iPlayer.
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    ntscuserntscuser Posts: 8,246
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    Buy a recorder if that bothers you

    I've got a recorder but it sometimes fails to record (that's if I even remembered to set it to record in the first place).

    Last night for example it recorded the first second of The Classic Car Show then quit for no obvious reason.
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    riceutenriceuten Posts: 5,876
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    tvmad-alan wrote: »
    Freeview has come alive over last few months with some channels going or moving and some new channels too. :cool:
    We now have Com 8 mux live after almost 18 months after Com 7 which was both were given the go ahead and given a five year life by OFCOM & ARQIVA. :confused:

    We have on Com 8 two HD channels which are QVC+1 HD on EPG 111 & QVC Beauty HD on EPG 112. :o yes shopping channels in HD

    Now what type of channels would hope to now see along with above named channels ?

    Seen that Com 7 give us some HD channels but also SD channels too.

    HD Channels ? ;-)
    Film 4 HD
    Channel 5 HD
    ITVBe HD

    SD Channels ? :)
    CBS Horror +1
    CBS Drama
    Sky Sports News HQ
    TCM
    Pick TV +1
    TJC Choice

    We could see BBC One+1 SD coming along faster with space on Freeview which may be that BBC Three HD & SD may not close down on TV?

    We also could see some part time Freeview channels move to become full time, which would give space for new part time channels ?

    Nice to see Freeview grow:)

    Nice to see yet another fantasy Mux thread ;-)

    It would be great if people could concentrate on what is possible - probable, even, rather than wanting something that $ky is likely to have signed an exclusivity deal with.

    And personally, I would love to see the back of every single +1 channel, and see some foreign language channels (other than Al-Jaz Arabic) on Freeview, but it probably isn't going to happen, not least because the UKIPpers amongst you would explode in fury.
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    ntscuserntscuser Posts: 8,246
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    I'd like to see everything which is currently on COM7 on COM8 because I get better reception of the latter. :D
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    kasgkasg Posts: 4,720
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    tvmad-alan wrote: »
    I did not understand why we could not of had the five or four channels made from the DSO put to six digital muxes to give the public TV up to 11 muxes
    What? Where on earth do you get 11 from? The frequencies in use by analogue transmissions were (mostly) re-used for the digital muxes at DSO. There will always be areas where there is room for additional muxes, but then we will get even more complaints about not all channels being available to everyone, like we do at the moment with Freeview heavy (COM7/8/local), Freeview standard (main transmitters) and Freeview lite (relays), not to mention the whole DVB-T/T2 thing.
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    oscar1oscar1 Posts: 5,079
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    COM 8 ??
    Where I live we haven't even got COM 7 and that is a Main transmitter !!
    Regards
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    ntscuserntscuser Posts: 8,246
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    oscar1 wrote: »
    COM 8 ??
    Where I live we haven't even got COM 7 and that is a Main transmitter !!

    When you say you haven't got it do you mean it isn't transmitted in your area or that it is but you can't receive it where you live?
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    oscar1oscar1 Posts: 5,079
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    Not transmitted
    Preseli West Wales
    Regards
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    ntscuserntscuser Posts: 8,246
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    oscar1 wrote: »
    Not transmitted
    Preseli West Wales

    Ah, right. I can see how that would annoy you.
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    Colin_LondonColin_London Posts: 12,717
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    Top 30 transmitters only due to spectrum available in 600MHz band.
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    pck1967pck1967 Posts: 32
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    It will be filled with HD shopping and more porn knowing Freeview
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