Porn's negative effects

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  • Doctor_WibbleDoctor_Wibble Posts: 26,580
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    Redcoat wrote: »
    ... In terms of sex education, curious teens & pre-teens will want to know and if no readily available information about it is on hand, something will end up filling the void (no sniggering please). ...
    True - and correcting wrong information is not an easy thing to do because people tend to remember what they learnt first and if it was associated with an intense experience this is likely to be much less easy.
    Genuine lessons on the importance of foreplay, listening to your partner etc. should be emphasised.
    I do think the mistake that gets made is the focus on the specific step-by-step details (perhaps this is putting parents off 'the talk'?) when really it doesn't need to be much more than very general terms and learning that it's OK to say no, but also that it's OK not to rush anything though that one is probably tricky if one's peer group is crowding around saying 'well did you?'.
    ... A heck of a lot more useful information than some teen wanting to know about how to have intercourse by looking up the likes of Pr0nHúb and thinking that somehow most of this is 'normal'.
    People will mistakenly think that a high-rated 'filthiest' is likely to have any useful information at all and certainly any 'specialist' ones will get a high-quality rating if any particular club has had their weekly day out on the web. If it's a subject where a person has minimal personal experience they just aren't going to know any better, especially if they didn't get the point about both participants enjoying it.
  • DadDancerDadDancer Posts: 3,920
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    oh dear not this again. I think that photo of Mary Whitehouse in the article is a far as anyone need read. The rest is drivel. Porn is not harmful in any way. There I no such thing as porn addiction either. There is ZERO scientific and medical evidence to back any of this nonsense the anti porn lobby continues to spew out.

    I can see junk articles like this becoming more common in the coming months, to justify the Tories (and Labour backed) attempts to try and censor the net with their great firewall of China internet proposals. Be careful what you wish for!
  • Doctor_WibbleDoctor_Wibble Posts: 26,580
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    DadDancer wrote: »
    oh dear not this again.
    Did you bother reading *any* of the comments in this thread, or even any of the article at all? You are not doing yourself any favours by trying to cast this as a 'ban everything' argument.

    The article was about the contrast between 'then' and 'now' and emphasising the point that parents really need to be aware of this so they can help their kids be normal human beings instead of spoilt brats demanding blow jobs from every girl they meet.
  • DadDancerDadDancer Posts: 3,920
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    Also stop blaming men and boys all the time. Trying to make out we are all some kind of sex crazed Neanderthals who don't respect women is a sexist point of view.

    There's another article here giving boys a hard time and includes video games too.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/porn-and-video-game-addiction-are-leading-to-masculinity-crisis-says-stanford-prison-experiment-psychologist-10238211.html
  • Monkey TennisMonkey Tennis Posts: 1,273
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    reglip wrote: »
    And personally i dont think porn is damaging. What is unrealistic about spunking on a girls face :D

    Ha ha quite! This post made me chuckle. :D

    Joking aside, I actually don't really buy into the arguments that some make that porn is unrealistic or that it presents a negative image of women or such like- of course some porn does but a lot feature regular people who don't have inflated mammoth bazookas or blokes with 15 inch appendages.

    I also therefore don't buy into the argument that porn puts unrealistic expectations on young girls or young lads.

    These days there is a plethora of material out there and a massive wide rage of taste, categories and styles both for men and women and anything inbetween.

    For me I'd say the only negative affects that porn might have is where one partner perhaps starts to prefer using it to such an extent that this has a detrimental effect on their actual sex life with their partner.
  • Doctor_WibbleDoctor_Wibble Posts: 26,580
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    DadDancer wrote: »
    Which is all about *excess* and his main conclusions relate to social development and really aren't all that revolutionary or controversial - i.e. boys* spending all their time in their rooms are not going to learn much in the way of useable real-life social skills.
    The language used on the other hand is all part of making the book sound extra-dramatic because a book that gently agrees with the mainstream tends not to sell too well unless it's a required course textbook.



    * or girls or both or somewhere in between or uncertain or 'none of the above'
  • DadDancerDadDancer Posts: 3,920
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    Did you bother reading *any* of the comments in this thread, or even any of the article at all? You are not doing yourself any favours by trying to cast this as a 'ban everything' argument.

    The article was about the contrast between 'then' and 'now' and emphasising the point that parents really need to be aware of this so they can help their kids be normal human beings instead of spoilt brats demanding blow jobs from every girl they meet.

    Sorry You cant blame porn for kids acting like spoilt brats. That is the fault of the parents and them not teaching their kids to respect other people. The fact is society has become more sexually liberated and people are more free to explore their sexuality. Unfortunately some people don't like this and hence they try and demonise pornography.
  • SemieroticSemierotic Posts: 11,131
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    The article missed a trick talking only about the effect on girls. Studies have suggested there's a rising rate of erectile dysfunction in male teens when they start watching hardcore from an early age. It's all quite new because in the scheme of things access to broadband speed videos is still very recent.

    Of course there'll still be critics who shout 'Mary Whitehouse!!' at such claims, but they sound just as ideological as she did by now and can't comprehend that this goes beyond politics.
  • StrmChaserSteveStrmChaserSteve Posts: 2,728
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    It generates stupid fools like this guy, who can't tell the difference between porn & child abuse

    Polish presidential election: legalise child pornography and scrap benefits, promises candidate

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/poland/11595712/Polish-presidential-election-legalise-child-pornography-and-scrap-benefits-promises-candidate.html

    Calling it, child porn is wrong, because it's child abuse

    Sex with a child is wrong
    Sexually explicit, sexual posing involving children is wrong

    Are Polish people seriously going to vote for this man?
  • Doctor_WibbleDoctor_Wibble Posts: 26,580
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    DadDancer wrote: »
    Sorry You cant blame porn for kids acting like spoilt brats. That is the fault of the parents and them not teaching their kids to respect other people. ...
    This is a re-wording of what I said in the post you quoted ffs.
  • Leicester_HunkLeicester_Hunk Posts: 18,316
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    petertard wrote: »
    Porn sex can be misleading for young people because it does not show all the preparation needed before sex can be performed in a porn scene, and it is a performance, not normal sex. This is particularly the case with anal sex, where the orifice has to be specially prepared beforehand by stretching and cleaning, so that the organ can enter without causing significant damage. None of this is shown.

    I couldn't be arsed ;)
  • lightdragonlightdragon Posts: 19,059
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    DadDancer wrote: »

    Porn and video games seem like easy targets to me, esp video games that take some investment of time to do. Is it any more addictive than someone posting their entire life on facebook and refreshing every five seconds to see if people care enough about them to comment? (That's a general question, not questioning your position).

    Also with WoW being at it's lowest subscription rate ever, and even knowing they do use known methods like rewards to suck you in to many hours play, it would appear that while they may be addictive, there also comes a time of moving on.
  • DadDancerDadDancer Posts: 3,920
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    Semierotic wrote: »
    The article missed a trick talking only about the effect on girls. Studies have suggested there's a rising rate of erectile dysfunction in male teens when they start watching hardcore from an early age. It's all quite new because in the scheme of things access to broadband speed videos is still very recent.

    Of course there'll still be critics who shout 'Mary Whitehouse!!' at such claims, but they sound just as ideological as she did by now and can't comprehend that this goes beyond politics.

    And there are those like your self who believe in junk science such as porn induced erectile dysfunction. Again there is no proven link and is not recognised by health experts. Hardcore porn has been around for decades and if you believe teenagers didn't seek it out before the net you are mistaken. Our European neighbours have had easy access to it long before we did and I have never heard of any problems there. Also why do you assume that hardcore porn is what turns people on/ excites them the most? If that is the case then why are there so many soft core/ fetish sites still available?
  • Keyser_Soze1Keyser_Soze1 Posts: 25,182
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    May I ask what is this online 'porn'?

    Can you actually see a woman's boobies through her bra? :o
  • gregrichardsgregrichards Posts: 4,913
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    petertard wrote: »
    Porn sex can be misleading for young people because it does not show all the preparation needed before sex can be performed in a porn scene, and it is a performance, not normal sex. This is particularly the case with anal sex, where the orifice has to be specially prepared beforehand by stretching and cleaning, so that the organ can enter without causing significant damage. None of this is shown.

    God I want to throw up (where is the vomit smiley when you need one) I'm not interested in that orifice for sexual purposes.
  • CravenHavenCravenHaven Posts: 13,953
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    reglip wrote: »
    And personally i dont think porn is damaging. What is unrealistic about spunking on a girls face :D
    but it always gets me in trouble on a first date
  • Sky_GuySky_Guy Posts: 6,859
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    God I want to throw up (where is the vomit smiley when you need one) I'm not interested in that orifice for sexual purposes.

    What is an "orifice":confused:
  • Bex_123Bex_123 Posts: 10,783
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    Sky_Guy wrote: »
    What is an "orifice":confused:

    Seriously? :D

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/orifice
  • CravenHavenCravenHaven Posts: 13,953
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    Sky_Guy wrote: »
    What is an "orifice":confused:
    it's somewhere over the cliff edge. Between a precipice and a crevasse.
  • Sky_GuySky_Guy Posts: 6,859
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    Bex_123 wrote: »
    Seriously? :D

    Im not going to search as its sounds like something that should not be searched.:D
  • gregrichardsgregrichards Posts: 4,913
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    Sky_Guy wrote: »
    What is an "orifice":confused:

    "orifice
    ˈɒrɪfɪs/
    noun
    an opening, particularly one in the body such as a nostril or the anus."

    From the dictionary.
  • Bex_123Bex_123 Posts: 10,783
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    Sky_Guy wrote: »
    Im not going to search as its sounds like something that should not be searched.:D

    No... It's just an opening of the body. Your ears are an orifice, your mouth is an orifice. And so is the anus which is what the poster was on about.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,830
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    God I want to throw up (where is the vomit smiley when you need one) I'm not interested in that orifice for sexual purposes.

    Heterosexual porn nowadays does seem to be pre-occupied with that particular orifice, as many porn scenes go "straight to the A".
  • gregrichardsgregrichards Posts: 4,913
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    petertard wrote: »
    Heterosexual porn nowadays does seem to be pre-occupied with that particular orifice, as many porn scenes go "straight to the A".

    It's one of life's mysteries to me why people are into that I just couldn't.
  • Keyser_Soze1Keyser_Soze1 Posts: 25,182
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    Bex_123 wrote: »
    No... It's just an opening of the body. Your ears are an orifice, your mouth is an orifice. And so is the anus which is what the poster was on about.

    I just love it when you talk dirty. :D
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