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E Cig in plane toilet: Smoke Alarm?

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    lozengerlozenger Posts: 4,881
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    NII 88 wrote: »
    Thanks for a definitive answer. I have tested the E Cig I use on a Kide smoke/carbon monoxide detector at home, it doesn't trigger this, (a Ten Motives E Cig doesn't create a lot of vapour) but I guess my alarm is a very different spec from ones used in aviation.

    On your advice I will buy a vapour free Nicorette inhalator for the flight and use it in the comfort of my seat.

    Thanks for the replies everyone.

    I guess you didnt read my post #10 that quoted BA's website saying E-Cigs are not allowed to be used on their flights then.

    You asked for advice and I researched it for you, I might have saved myself the bother if you were going to ignore it and do your own thing anyway
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    80sfan80sfan Posts: 18,522
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    Hotgossip wrote: »
    It's threads like this that make me so glad I quit smoking and before there were such things as Ecigs.

    It amazes me how much people must earn to afford almost £9 a packet cigarettes and afford long-haul holidays! So much for austerity Britain!
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    HypnodiscHypnodisc Posts: 22,728
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    80sfan wrote: »
    It amazes me how much people must earn to afford almost £9 a packet cigarettes and afford long-haul holidays! So much for austerity Britain!

    No 'almost' about it. A pack of 20 Marlboro Gold will cost you over £9 as of April.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 774
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    lozenger wrote: »
    I guess you didnt read my post #10 that quoted BA's website saying E-Cigs are not allowed to be used on their flights then.

    You asked for advice and I researched it for you, I might have saved myself the bother if you were going to ignore it and do your own thing anyway

    The advice that I asked for was specific. I am well aware that BA along with many other airlines introduced restrictions on E Cig use in 2009 after a guy tried to murder the passengers on a Northwest flight with explosive underpants and that other passengers may mistake E Cig vapour for WMD's.

    My post was asking if vapour sets off toilet smoke alarms. When I googled this there was conflicting information. Some passengers have used E Cigs in toilets with success, others claim it had set off alarms. A poster who works in the aviation industry gave a definitive answer to my question.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,306
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    Why is it smokers think it is there god given right to smoke and first damage and sometimes kill as in Roy Castle with passive smoking, now with the e-cigs will take a chance to cause a fire in a plane, that will at the very least delay the plane and ruin everyone else trip.
    i hope if this poster goes ahead, they do get caught, arrested and jailed or at least get sent home without the holiday and fined a huge amount.
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    g-bhxug-bhxu Posts: 2,594
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    Don't know about an ecig setting off a fire alarm, but my farts do!
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    richcleverrichclever Posts: 12,740
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    lozenger wrote: »
    I guess you didnt read my post #10 that quoted BA's website saying E-Cigs are not allowed to be used on their flights then.

    You asked for advice and I researched it for you, I might have saved myself the bother if you were going to ignore it and do your own thing anyway
    myscimitar wrote: »
    Why is it smokers think it is there god given right to smoke and first damage and sometimes kill as in Roy Castle with passive smoking, now with the e-cigs will take a chance to cause a fire in a plane, that will at the very least delay the plane and ruin everyone else trip.
    i hope if this poster goes ahead, they do get caught, arrested and jailed or at least get sent home without the holiday and fined a huge amount.

    The poster did listen to the advice and has decided to get a Nicorette inhalator which in no way can be called an E-cig. They are merely a plastic tube with a capsule which contains nicotene. No vapour, no battery. I would say to the OP to double check these are also OK but I've not heard anywhere that they aren't.
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    walterwhitewalterwhite Posts: 56,919
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    myscimitar wrote: »
    Why is it smokers think it is there god given right to smoke and first damage and sometimes kill as in Roy Castle with passive smoking, now with the e-cigs will take a chance to cause a fire in a plane, that will at the very least delay the plane and ruin everyone else trip.
    i hope if this poster goes ahead, they do get caught, arrested and jailed or at least get sent home without the holiday and fined a huge amount.

    The same Roy Castle of whom there is zero proof he was killed by passive smoking you mean?
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    walterwhitewalterwhite Posts: 56,919
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    80sfan wrote: »
    It amazes me how much people must earn to afford almost £9 a packet cigarettes and afford long-haul holidays! So much for austerity Britain!

    Some people earn lots of money, that's how capitalist economies work. I have a decent job and so does my wife, £9 a pack and a holiday is easily do-able.
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    JJ75JJ75 Posts: 1,954
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    NII 88 wrote: »
    The advice that I asked for was specific. I am well aware that BA along with many other airlines introduced restrictions on E Cig use in 2009 after a guy tried to murder the passengers on a Northwest flight with explosive underpants and that other passengers may mistake E Cig vapour for WMD's.

    My post was asking if vapour sets off toilet smoke alarms. When I googled this there was conflicting information. Some passengers have used E Cigs in toilets with success, others claim it had set off alarms. A poster who works in the aviation industry gave a definitive answer to my question.

    I always have a puff of my e-cig when flying. Not sure about the toilets though, I just stay in my seat.
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    gdjman68wasdigigdjman68wasdigi Posts: 21,705
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    Hypnodisc wrote: »
    Who said anything about smoking?

    E-Cigarettes don't work via combustion - they aren't legally the same as smoking tobacco.

    The airline may have still taken it upon themselves (illogically) to ban them though, so the OP should check.

    If it was me I'd just do it carefully 'under a coat' in the main cabin and nobody will ever know either way.

    No e-cigarette should be able to set off a smoke alarm unless it's badly made or faulty.

    Even buses have banned them so I'm sure Emirates will do the same
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    cbe21okcbe21ok Posts: 3,047
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    Me i would just do without, i used to smoke normal tabs until 3 years ago and had quite a few long distance flights early 2000s and easily went without a smoke. I wouldn't dream of farting on these days having a sly one on a plane.
    Just out of interest OP which 10Motives do you use?, i like the menthol version, i used to try the flavour ones like strawberry etc but they seem to have changed them, far too bitter.
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,659
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    JJ75 wrote: »
    I always have a puff of my e-cig when flying. Not sure about the toilets though, I just stay in my seat.

    You've been lucky not to be told to stop - or worse. Every airline I am aware of bans their use onboard (but they are allowed in hand luggage). The main reason is the sight of someone "smoking" may cause alarm to other passengers or make them think it's OK for them to smoke a normal cigarettes.
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    radcliffe95radcliffe95 Posts: 4,086
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    LostFool wrote: »
    You've been lucky not to be told to stop - or worse. Every airline I am aware of bans their use onboard (but they are allowed in hand luggage). The main reason is the sight of someone "smoking" may cause alarm to other passengers or make them think it's OK for them to smoke a normal cigarettes.

    What planet have these 'passengers' been living on for the last quarter of a century:confused:
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,659
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    What planet have these 'passengers' been living on for the last quarter of a century:confused:

    I quite agree but the way airline safety works is never to underestimate the stupidity of people.
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    Misanthropy_83Misanthropy_83 Posts: 2,561
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    I think you should use nicotine patches or gum for the flight or go without
    maybe watch a movie or something to take your mind off the nicotine monkey on your back going "eek eek eek" lol
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    RobinOfLoxleyRobinOfLoxley Posts: 27,040
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    Valium, sleeping tablet, as many mini bottles of wine as they will let you have and go to sleep.

    (Drink is problematic these days though too. You have to wheedle enough to hit the mark, without appearing to be a potential problem and you can't pre-load too much in the Terminal or they won't let you on the flight)

    4mg Nicotine Gum for when you are awake. Stick it under the seat rest when done to register your protest at modern life and its silly rules.
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    spotty_catspotty_cat Posts: 557
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    I'm a vaper and I'll be peed off when I next fly and am unable to vape. I will complain as I speak my mind but will respect their rules however silly they are.
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    JeffG1JeffG1 Posts: 15,275
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    I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw someone puffing away in the outpatients department of my local hospital. Then I saw it was artificial, but until then I didn't know they gave off vapour that looks like smoke. (Is there no way they can design them so they don't do that?)

    Anyway, a nurse was on to them pretty sharpish and told them to stop, as it was setting a bad example in a smoke-free environment.
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    spotty_catspotty_cat Posts: 557
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    JeffG1 wrote: »
    I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw someone puffing away in the outpatients department of my local hospital. Then I saw it was artificial, but until then I didn't know they gave off vapour that looks like smoke. (Is there no way they can design them so they don't do that?)

    Anyway, a nurse was on to them pretty sharpish and told them to stop, as it was setting a bad example in a smoke-free environment.

    It still is a smoke free environment as it's steam and no worse than a kettle boiling.
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    intoxicationintoxication Posts: 7,059
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    I'm an ex smoker that has moved onto vaping and think the comments here encouraging people to vape on planes when it's not allowed are shocking. As others have pointed out it could cause delays, even flights cancelled to other passengers, not to mention any physical danger, or alarming passengers or staff that a potentially dangerous substance had been brought on board. If vaping wasn't available would you go into the toilet and smoke a cigarette and blow the smoke down the toilet to try and hide it? It's only 11 hours. Suck on it constantly for an hour before you get on and then for two when you get off.
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    Misanthropy_83Misanthropy_83 Posts: 2,561
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    if you want to break the rules you might as well put a condom over the smoke detector and smoke a normal cigarette
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    walterwhitewalterwhite Posts: 56,919
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    Valium, sleeping tablet, as many mini bottles of wine as they will let you have and go to sleep.

    (Drink is problematic these days though too. You have to wheedle enough to hit the mark, without appearing to be a potential problem and you can't pre-load too much in the Terminal or they won't let you on the flight)

    4mg Nicotine Gum for when you are awake. Stick it under the seat rest when done to register your protest at modern life and its silly rules.

    Cool. Where do I get the valium from?
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    walterwhitewalterwhite Posts: 56,919
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    spotty_cat wrote: »
    It still is a smoke free environment as it's steam and no worse than a kettle boiling.

    It may also contain nicotine traces so it's certainly not akin to a kettle boiling.
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    Devon MilesDevon Miles Posts: 6,654
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    I must admit I've been vaping in plane loos for a couple of years. Never even occurred to me that it would set a smoke alarm off. Guess they must be different to ones you would have in your house otherwise you would risk an alarm going off every time you boiled a kettle - and don't even talk about steaming wall-paper off in the vicinity!
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