PURE Sensia

popppopp Posts: 548
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really tempted to get 1. as argos have some for £128, anyone got 1 and for that price is it worth it. will also buy a chargepak for £35, total price £163ish. what is the sound like. do the speakers rattle, i know the evokes sound good. i do use my itouch for internet radio, but hoping this will be better to listen to with the bigger speakers .seems to have mixed reviews. but gets better with the firmware updates. my other option is the pure flow with the extra speaker. but like the look of the Sensia. regards popp:confused:

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  • ajaaja Posts: 1,477
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    I also considered this model until I discovered that Pure use their own internet radio software (The Lonugue) rather than Reciva or Tangent.

    This means that not all internet stations are receivable with it.
  • remlapremlap Posts: 6,256
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    aja wrote: »
    I also considered this model until I discovered that Pure use their own internet radio software (The Lonugue) rather than Reciva or Tangent.

    This means that not all internet stations are receivable with it.

    I have no problem adding my own URLs to The Lounge.

    It is problematic for podcasts though. Which really isn't a problem for me anyway I can easy download the podcasts automatically and stick it on my media server.
  • neyney Posts: 12,516
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    popp wrote: »
    really tempted to get 1. as argos have some for £128, anyone got 1 and for that price is it worth it. will also buy a chargepak for £35, total price £163ish. what is the sound like. do the speakers rattle, i know the evokes sound good. i do use my itouch for internet radio, but hoping this will be better to listen to with the bigger speakers .seems to have mixed reviews. but gets better with the firmware updates. my other option is the pure flow with the extra speaker. but like the look of the Sensia. regards popp:confused:

    I have had one for a good while now and payed just over dubble the price that Argos is selling them at now.
    I love mine and use it a lot and I like the weather app on it as well.
    I do fine that every few weeks you have to wipe the screen on it or it dont repond to well if you touch it.
    It dont always work at streming music from my PC but I never really go it for that.

    Darren
  • PaulEvansDorsetPaulEvansDorset Posts: 580
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    remlap wrote: »

    It is problematic for podcasts though.

    Well, at least it has transport controls - but if pausing and rewinding 'listen again' material is not a priority for you the Frontier Silicon interface that most Roberts use is far more user-friendly.
    Finding such material alphabetically is reasonably easy on the Sensia but you cannot browse, for example, Radio 4's entire Listen Again menu as all podcasts come up at once.
    With the FS interface, they're a sub menu of the station.

    Sound quality is excellent, with a good response right across the frequency range, including solid but not booming bass - although like all more recent Pures it's very compressed. And it does get better with each firmware update - they're quite frequent - although the two most recent ones have, annoyingly, obliterated the option of the 'on' indicator at the top of the radio being completely off when on standby (instead, it just dims).

    Regarding any rattle, on my example there's none.
    I once (foolishly) cleaned the touch screen while the radio was on, and the volume control went up to full. It was very, very loud for its size, and there was no audible distortion, and no rattle whatsoever.

    Despite all the above, if you're lookoing for the ultimate cheapy all-rounder I'd try and pick up a Magicbox Clarus Plus from eBay.
    It has the fastest boot time of any internet radio I've ever used, a proper line out, well-positioned built-in stereo speakers with decent enough sound quality - plus decent DAB performance and, unlike the Sensia which performs appallingly on FM, it's good in that respect too.
    Mine was only 39 quid from Curries just over a year ago - they thought it was the DAB version ;):D
  • davidb201davidb201 Posts: 404
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    popp wrote: »
    really tempted to get 1. as argos have some for £128, anyone got 1 and for that price is it worth it. will also buy a chargepak for £35, total price £163ish. what is the sound like. do the speakers rattle, i know the evokes sound good. i do use my itouch for internet radio, but hoping this will be better to listen to with the bigger speakers .seems to have mixed reviews. but gets better with the firmware updates. my other option is the pure flow with the extra speaker. but like the look of the Sensia. regards popp:confused:

    Be careful with PURE products. My Evoke 3 was the third PURE digital radio I had bought. It worked well for three years and then suddenly failed with a software issue. I discovered that this is a common problem by looking at various Internet forums. I also found that the PURE support desk is unable to provide a technical solution, is relatively discourteous and seems focused on the fact that the radio is out of warranty. However for a £200 radio to fail after a relatively short life and for a brand-loyal, repeat purchaser to receive no real help is surely unacceptable. I will never buy another PURE product and would recommend prospective purchasers to look at all available customer feedback/comment on forums, which indicates serious technical issues.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 116
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    Horses for courses I guess, but i've been using Pure radios for years, have 6 of them now, and never had a problem with them, would not buy any other brand.
  • orchoverorchover Posts: 1,443
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    Hi, I bought one from Argos at £128. None left at least around here now so you better be quick if you want one.

    Bad::

    - sound quality is not good IMHO. The treble is all wrong giving a muddy sound and there is no way to adjust it
    - the touchscreen is a bit meh, sometimes requires the lightest of touches and others is totally unresponsive, but what do you expect for £128?
    - no rubber feet on the base means it moves around when youre trying to prod the touchscreen
    - you cant have the radio on without the screen on, so no good for listening in bed unless you want your bedroom lit up like Blackpool illuminations.
    - DAB reception is a bit iffy. Never had any problems with my previous DAB radio.
    - volume control is rubbish! Better to use the remote, which is just about the only thing it can do...
    - the apps are a waste of time and constantly crashing. I usually have the accuweather app on and often find it wont work so I have to reboot the unit to get it going again.

    Good:

    - internet radio is almost indistinguishable from the DAB part. It looks exactly the same.
    - "The Lounge" is easy to use and i've yet to find a radio staion I wanted that isnt on there.

    There is no way I would have paid £259 for this, but for £128 It's OK but just OK. Nothing more.
  • popppopp Posts: 548
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    i have reserved the last 1. also the chargepak as i can take it around house. will pick it up tomorrow. i did try the PURE ONE Flow, for a day but did not like only having the 1 speaker. just a quick mention when i was listening to some podcasts i was able to pause and wind them forward. i had heard on some forums this was not possible with the pure radios. i fancied one of these sensia radios because of the stereo speakers built in also it can take a chargepak. i did look into getting a Evoke Flow and buying the add on speaker , but now the price has dropped on the sensia i might as well get it. has anyone got the battery for it , as i wondered roughly how long the battery will last. on the one flow it says about 20 hours. i doubt it would be anywhere as near as that with the large screen.. thanks for the replies.
  • InkblotInkblot Posts: 26,889
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    It appears to be completely out-of-stock now as when I checked there were none in local shops and none available for home delivery.
  • popppopp Posts: 548
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    i better go get my 1 now. there is 1 in corby but to far from you lol
  • orchoverorchover Posts: 1,443
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    Inkblot wrote: »
    It appears to be completely out-of-stock now as when I checked there were none in local shops and none available for home delivery.

    www.icheckstock.co.uk says theres 1 in stock at Feltham Argos inkblot...

    Theres also 2 at Argos Holloway Road in London (postcode N7 6PN).
  • InkblotInkblot Posts: 26,889
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    orchover wrote: »
    www.icheckstock.co.uk says theres 1 in stock at Feltham Argos inkblot...

    Theres also 2 at Argos Holloway Road in London (postcode N7 6PN).

    Thanks, that's a useful web site.
  • neyney Posts: 12,516
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    orchover wrote: »
    Hi, I bought one from Argos at £128. None left at least around here now so you better be quick if you want one.

    Bad::

    - sound quality is not good IMHO. The treble is all wrong giving a muddy sound and there is no way to adjust it
    - the touchscreen is a bit meh, sometimes requires the lightest of touches and others is totally unresponsive, but what do you expect for £128?
    - no rubber feet on the base means it moves around when youre trying to prod the touchscreen
    - you cant have the radio on without the screen on, so no good for listening in bed unless you want your bedroom lit up like Blackpool illuminations.
    - DAB reception is a bit iffy. Never had any problems with my previous DAB radio.
    - volume control is rubbish! Better to use the remote, which is just about the only thing it can do...
    - the apps are a waste of time and constantly crashing. I usually have the accuweather app on and often find it wont work so I have to reboot the unit to get it going again.

    Good:

    - internet radio is almost indistinguishable from the DAB part. It looks exactly the same.
    - "The Lounge" is easy to use and i've yet to find a radio staion I wanted that isnt on there.

    There is no way I would have paid £259 for this, but for £128 It's OK but just OK. Nothing more.

    Look and see if it needs a software update. Theres nothing wrong with the weather app.
    I have had mine coming up for two years now and the only thing is the FM tuner could have been better and the touchscrren needs a wip now and again and the Facebook app could do with an upgrade apart from that theres nothing wrong with the Sensia.

    Darren
  • orchoverorchover Posts: 1,443
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    ney wrote: »
    Look and see if it needs a software update. Theres nothing wrong with the weather app.
    I have had mine coming up for two years now and the only thing is the FM tuner could have been better and the touchscrren needs a wip now and again and the Facebook app could do with an upgrade apart from that theres nothing wrong with the Sensia.

    Darren

    Thanks but ive already updated the software. Weather app says "weather information cannot be displayed" twice a week on average. Only way to get it going again is to restart the unit.
  • WellHiddenMarkWellHiddenMark Posts: 1,797
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    orchover wrote: »
    sound quality is not good IMHO. The treble is all wrong giving a muddy sound and there is no way to adjust it

    I disagree. I think the sound quality is excellent. I'd say the treble is relaxed to cover up nasties in low bitrate streams, but most cheaper DAB radios have too much treble.
    orchover wrote: »
    the touchscreen is a bit meh, sometimes requires the lightest of touches and others is totally unresponsive, but what do you expect for £128?

    You're being rather kind there. The touchscreen is as good as an iPhone... that's been in some sort of freak toilet accident
    orchover wrote: »
    no rubber feet on the base means it moves around when youre trying to prod the touchscreen

    I always use the base, blu-tak is your friend.
    orchover wrote: »
    you cant have the radio on without the screen on, so no good for listening in bed unless you want your bedroom lit up like Blackpool illuminations

    On the latest v4 software you can change the display to 'timed' so it goes off after 30 seconds. Obviously the appalling UI doesn't make this easy.
    orchover wrote: »
    DAB reception is a bit iffy. Never had any problems with my previous DAB radio.

    DAB reception is great for me. FM, on the other hand is a joke - from the dreadful tuning interface to the fact that the display audibly interferes with the signal. Best just to find the station in The Lounge and use that.
    orchover wrote: »
    volume control is rubbish! Better to use the remote, which is just about the only thing it can do...

    Don't get me started on that ****ing volume control
    orchover wrote: »
    the apps are a waste of time and constantly crashing. I usually have the accuweather app on and often find it wont work so I have to reboot the unit to get it going again.

    I have few problems with the apps. Picasa is particularly good. I find I only have to reboot the radio (including removing the chargepak, which is a pain, when it mysteriously loses the wifi on occasion)

    For me, the sound is good and The Lounge is good, but the UI is probably one of the worst of any device on the planet. I suspect the software is written in Java, as that is always responsible for general crapness.
  • popppopp Posts: 548
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    sounds like i might be better off getting the PURE Evoke Flow and extra speaker plus battery pack. works out at about the same price at the moment, only £119.96 in argos, the evoke has better reviews. i just fancied the sensia because of the price drop plus it looks nice.. it seems to have several minor issues... just don`t know which to get: aaaarrrgghh:confused:
  • fmradiotuner1fmradiotuner1 Posts: 20,496
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    Maybe the Flow is more portable if that is any help.
  • popppopp Posts: 548
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    yes, that is my thinking. the sensia wont be as easy to carry around. and with the full screen more hungry on using the battery pack. thanks fmradiotuner1
  • WellHiddenMarkWellHiddenMark Posts: 1,797
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    popp wrote: »
    sounds like i might be better off getting the PURE Evoke Flow and extra speaker plus battery pack. works out at about the same price at the moment, only £119.96 in argos, the evoke has better reviews. i just fancied the sensia because of the price drop plus it looks nice.. it seems to have several minor issues... just don`t know which to get: aaaarrrgghh:confused:

    It looks nice, it sounds nice, but it's a bugger to use. It's an experimental geek toy rather than a radio.

    For carrying it does come with a rather cool padded fabric bag as opposed to a boring old handle :D
  • lundavralundavra Posts: 31,790
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    popp wrote: »
    sounds like i might be better off getting the PURE Evoke Flow and extra speaker plus battery pack. works out at about the same price at the moment, only £119.96 in argos, the evoke has better reviews. i just fancied the sensia because of the price drop plus it looks nice.. it seems to have several minor issues... just don`t know which to get: aaaarrrgghh:confused:

    We had the mains off earlier in the year, I had my Pure Evoke Flow on most of the day on its internal battery.

    Its a bit of a PITA to switch on when no mains connected, it goes into a dormant mode and needs waking up. It can take a minute or so to get it on sometimes. Usually quicker to take through and plug into the mains power supply until it is running.
  • remlapremlap Posts: 6,256
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    lundavra wrote: »
    We had the mains off earlier in the year, I had my Pure Evoke Flow on most of the day on its internal battery.

    Yep done the same, mains was only out for an hour or so but was surprised how well it performs on DAB.

    Parents liked the Evoke Flow so much they decided to get their own.

    Plus with it having UPnP It has many options, one thing I've setup is satellite (DVB-S) radio.
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