The Carters - Are they Suffocating EE?

vaslav37vaslav37 Posts: 69,387
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DTC has made the Carters the number one family in EE, by doing this are the Carters suffocating the show?
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  • fawltytowers93fawltytowers93 Posts: 1,872
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    Yes.

    Every other character on the show are basically secondary characters now.

    He's pushed them to the front of the show to please HIMSELF, not to please the audience.
    If they shared equal screentime with the rest of the cast, they'd be a much stronger and popular family unit, and the quality of the show would improve vastly.

    It's destroying the programme. I hated the Branning domination too, but this is something else...
  • Caza_BellowCaza_Bellow Posts: 1,045
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    I was just thinking a about how brilliant EastEnders could have been throughout most of this year and parts of last year (particularly towards the end of 2014)

    If Aunt Babe was a relative conmected to another family, it would be better.

    If another female had of been raped, apart from Linda, it would have been better. She wasn't established enough and it felt very forced!

    Basically, it would have reduced half of the Carter screentime. DTC is more than capable, but he refuses to ignore his wonderment for the Carter dominance...
  • vaslav37vaslav37 Posts: 69,387
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    I agree with the above two posts. DTC has also failed miserably with Lee & Nancy, neither character had been developed since they arrived with all the focus on Shirley, Mick, Linda, Stan and Dean.
  • fawltytowers93fawltytowers93 Posts: 1,872
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    The fact that Kat's attempted suicide was a secondary plot to the usual Carter squabbles, and the episode ended with Dean entering the Vic, pretty much sums up the state of the programme at the minute

    Also they were too involved with the 30th Anniversary. Peggy and Tanya both returned especially for it. We didn't see Tanya interact with Lauren, Cora or Stacey...these are characters who she was hugely involved with during her previous stints. Same with Peggy...she never interacted with Sharon, Ronnie, Roxy, Ben etc, and these are people we would've loved to see her exchange scenes with.
    Yet both Peggy and Tanya were given scenes with Mick Carter instead. WHY?! They have no connection to him whatsoever. It was ridiculous, and proof that DTC is obsessed with Danny Dyer
  • craig_25craig_25 Posts: 2,990
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    In my opinion (for what it’s worth) they simply have a long running story line, and I don’t personally believe many others have suffered due to that. In almost every episode we are still given major insight into storylines involving the Mitchells, Foxes, Beales, Moone / Slaters, Fowlers and Brannings. When the rape story line reaches its conclusion we will no doubt see the Carters retreat and another family move into the fore. I’m enjoying all of the current story lines, and whilst I am getting slightly bored of the merry-go-round of scenes in which we see the Carters vs Shirley/Dean/Buster, it’s at least realistic that such an event wouldn't be so easily resolved within a family.
  • olivejolivej Posts: 14,696
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    yes

    I agree totally with posts #2 and #3

    less blinking Carters please - I really dont give two hoots about them as a family anymore
  • FiregazerFiregazer Posts: 5,888
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    They have been forced upon us and I don't like it.

    I find it difficult to care for a character like Linda. We don't even know that much about her backstory, just that she met Mick when she was 13, had a couple babies then moved to Walford 20 years later.
  • sarah_shortsarah_short Posts: 1,173
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    In my humble opinion it's not good for the show as a whole to have such a decisive family at the centre of the show
    They started well but the overkill has greatly spoilt both them and the show.:(
  • DUNDEEBOYDUNDEEBOY Posts: 109,886
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    It's pretty much beyond a joke now and there doesn't seem to be any sign of it ending
  • RetroMusicFanRetroMusicFan Posts: 6,673
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    Yes they are and their scenes need to be cut back somewhat!
  • vaslav37vaslav37 Posts: 69,387
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    They are based on his own family apparently.
  • Ell_RenEll_Ren Posts: 9,911
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    My opinion on this, which I have posted on all the other thousand Carter threads, applies here also.:D
  • vaslav37vaslav37 Posts: 69,387
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    The fact that Kat's attempted suicide was a secondary plot to the usual Carter squabbles, and the episode ended with Dean entering the Vic, pretty much sums up the state of the programme at the minute

    Also they were too involved with the 30th Anniversary. Peggy and Tanya both returned especially for it. We didn't see Tanya interact with Lauren, Cora or Stacey...these are characters who she was hugely involved with during her previous stints. Same with Peggy...she never interacted with Sharon, Ronnie, Roxy, Ben etc, and these are people we would've loved to see her exchange scenes with.
    Yet both Peggy and Tanya were given scenes with Mick Carter instead. WHY?! They have no connection to him whatsoever. It was ridiculous, and proof that DTC is obsessed with Danny Dyer

    Maybe he has a crush on Danny, some good points in this post.
  • lou_123lou_123 Posts: 12,706
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    Yes, and I wouldn't mind if they were good, but they're just so bad and messy.

    Of course, TPTB won't care what we think on this matter, as the Carters are iconic and the best additions the Square has ever seen, putting them firmly as the nations favourite family.

    Get them out The Vic already...
  • lou_123lou_123 Posts: 12,706
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    DUNDEEBOY wrote: »
    It's pretty much beyond a joke now and there doesn't seem to be any sign of it ending

    I here that baby Carter will be the most iconic baby in the country and that the shows bosses have already created a Wikipedia page for the new born.
  • lou_123lou_123 Posts: 12,706
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    olivej wrote: »
    yes

    I agree totally with posts #2 and #3

    less blinking Carters please - I really dont give two hoots about them as a family anymore

    We will not get less Carter screen time, until they are escorted out of what has been voted as 'Britain's best pub'. They could have someone so much more better as landlord/landlady like Ronnie for example, but no she spends 4 months lying in a hospital bed popping up every 5 weeks, whilst they desperately attempt to try and make Mick and Linda TV legends (It ain't happening).
  • ameewameew Posts: 2,045
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    I do like most of the Carters but I think they've possibly been pushed a little bit too much . I wouldn't have brought Lee in at all and I would have scrapped Dean raping Ali da as I think that storyline combined with the Shirley being Micks mum was too much .
  • SecretLifeoBeesSecretLifeoBees Posts: 50,831
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    Yes they are taking up a lot of screentime, but so have the Brannings and Mitchells in recent years when they were the chosen central family. In time soneone else will become the new focal family and people will still complain.
  • lou_123lou_123 Posts: 12,706
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    Yes they are taking up a lot of screentime, but so have the Brannings and Mitchells in recent years when they were the chosen central family. In time soneone else will become the new focal family and people will still complain.

    The Branning's maybe, but a solid 5 years after they DID become firm fan favourites who the viewers were invested in. IMO, Max, Tanya, Jack, Dot, Jim, etc... Were so much more watchable than the likes of Linda, Nancy, Lee, Babe & Sylvie. The Mitchell's dominating never happened, as far as I can remember. They ran The Vic, but EVERYONE got their fair share of screen time, for example the Branning's, Stacey, the Beale's, Pat, Bianca, Janine and many more. They may have had slightly more screen time, but nowhere near as much as the Carters and there were never endless episodes dedicated entirely to them. Not to mention the fact they'd been there for over a decade. The Carters have came in and been forced down our throats after about a year. Why?
  • nightwish1990nightwish1990 Posts: 1,515
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    These anti-Carter threads are suffocating this forum.
  • dancerdaisydancerdaisy Posts: 563
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    Yes l think so, l had a weeks episodes recorded but l deleted them all, just couldn't face watching them.
  • vaslav37vaslav37 Posts: 69,387
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    These anti-Carter threads are suffocating this forum.

    This is a democratic forum.
  • Aurora13Aurora13 Posts: 30,246
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    These anti-Carter threads are suffocating this forum.

    Rinse and repeat. Rinse and repeat.

    Forum rules on duplicate threads are a better read.
  • vaslav37vaslav37 Posts: 69,387
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    What I would like to know us why have Lee & Nancy had no development as characters?
  • Meg_BeechMeg_Beech Posts: 32
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    Why do you feel the need to make another thread about this everyone must have said their opinion over 10 times on double that many threads. Its becoming ridiculous. Even when someone sets up a thread so you don't have to make anymore you don't listen and go ahead anyway. Anyone who likes to Carters (me), understands why they have weeks focused on them, and knows that other people get screen time to and will get some in the future (the Beales) are well away of your opinion so we don't need it shouted down are earhole anymore!!! Rant Over:)
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