Iain Duncan Smith: I could get by on £53 a week

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  • geordiejackiegeordiejackie Posts: 3,400
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    tim59 wrote: »
    Think we should give the MPs a soup kitchens, and save tax payers so more money then the money saved could be spent buying more food for the food banks.Subsidy for MPs' bars and restaurants rises to £5.8m

    Would be great tim but whatever happens next, it should be that the people of this country let the politicians know their gravy train will be over for good ......one can hope mate

    regards jack
  • gummy mummygummy mummy Posts: 26,600
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    PrestonAl wrote: »
    Which requires money, which we don't have due to the deficit. We need to cut the deficit, but that means cutting from the NHS, Education and Defence really.

    No two ways about it while Europe stagnates.

    Is there not a way of cutting the deficit without it hurting the sick, children and defence ?

    Maybe they could create the jobs (which they promised to create) meaning more people paying tax.

    and maybe they could encourage growth, which apparently they still haven't delivered even though a plan for growth report was published in 2011
    The Plan for Growth, published alongside Budget 2011, and as part of Autumn Statement 2011, announced a programme of structural reforms to remove barriers to growth for businesses and equip the UK to compete in the global race. These reforms span a range of policies including improving UK infrastructure, cutting red tape, root and branch reform of the planning system and boosting trade and inward investment, to achieve the Government’s four ambitions for growth:


    http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/ukecon_growth_index.htm
  • geordiejackiegeordiejackie Posts: 3,400
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    Is there not a way of cutting the deficit without it hurting the sick, children and defence ?

    Maybe they could create the jobs (which they promised to create) meaning more people paying tax.

    and maybe they could encourage growth, which apparently they still haven't delivered even though a plan for growth report was published in 2011




    http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/ukecon_growth_index.htm

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/9964792/British-aid-is-helping-fund-re-election-campaign-of-Bhutto-family-in-Pakistan.html


    time this was stopped

    regards jack
  • PrestonAlPrestonAl Posts: 10,342
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    Is there not a way of cutting the deficit without it hurting the sick, children and defence ?

    Maybe they could create the jobs (which they promised to create) meaning more people paying tax.

    and maybe they could encourage growth, which apparently they still haven't delivered even though a plan for growth report was published in 2011

    http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/ukecon_growth_index.htm

    More jobs have been created but still, in a climate where your sole biggest trading partner, is basically stagnating, it was bound to be more difficult.
  • gummy mummygummy mummy Posts: 26,600
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    If true then it most certainly is but this Government seems to be more interested in the well being of the people in other counties than people in their own country.

    According to this India had a much higher growth rate than we do. They had a growth rate of 5.4 compared to our growth rate of 0.2

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_real_GDP_growth_rate_%28latest_year%29
  • Top Gun 001Top Gun 001 Posts: 382
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    And we are supposed to be the seventh richest country in the world

    It wasn't long ago we were the 4th richest.

    We do have a benefits culture that is the envy of the world.
    That's why so many want to come here.
  • wallsterwallster Posts: 17,609
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    It wasn't long ago we were the 4th richest.

    We do have a benefits culture that is the envy of the world.
    That's why so many want to come here.

    Spot on.
  • gummy mummygummy mummy Posts: 26,600
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    It wasn't long ago we were the 4th richest.

    We do have a benefits culture that is the envy of the world.
    That's why so many want to come here.

    I thought they came here to take the jobs that we British are to lazy to take :confused:
  • geordiejackiegeordiejackie Posts: 3,400
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    wallster wrote: »
    Spot on.

    you said


    Foreign workers are perceived as hard working, don't take "sickies" and are reliable


    make your mind up bonny lad :confused:

    regards jack
  • PrestonAlPrestonAl Posts: 10,342
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    you said


    Foreign workers are perceived as hard working, don't take "sickies" and are reliable


    make your mind up bonny lad :confused:

    regards jack

    Perceived yes, and quite often they are. Then again, they are the workers. There are also those who come here knowing we'r a soft touch, with no intention of working.
  • wallsterwallster Posts: 17,609
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    you said


    Foreign workers are perceived as hard working, don't take "sickies" and are reliable


    make your mind up bonny lad :confused:

    regards jack

    My mind is made up. The benefits system here is indeed a draw for people to come here but nevertheless once here foreigners take up the work opportunities that British people consider beneath them.

    Hope you are less confused now, bonny lad :)

    regards wallster
  • tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    wallster wrote: »
    My mind is made up. The benefits system here is indeed a draw for people to come here but nevertheless once here foreigners take up the work opportunities that British people consider beneath them.

    Hope you are less confused now, bonny lad :)

    regards wallster

    Strange how we pay more out to people in work than out of work,
  • gummy mummygummy mummy Posts: 26,600
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    tim59 wrote: »
    Strange how we pay more out to people in work than out of work,

    That's true, the benefits for a working household whether you have children or not are much higher than for unemployed households

    http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/benefits_e/benefits_benefits_in_work_or_looking_for_work_ew/benefits_and_tax_credits_for_people_in_work.htm#other_help_when_you_get_working_tax_credit
  • Richard1960Richard1960 Posts: 20,340
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    That's true, the benefits for a working household whether you have children or not are much higher than for unemployed households

    http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/benefits_e/benefits_benefits_in_work_or_looking_for_work_ew/benefits_and_tax_credits_for_people_in_work.htm#other_help_when_you_get_working_tax_credit

    In line with that we have a Tesco distribution warehouse in Harlow where i live,it currently pays £12 -£14 an hour Tesco are closing it down and moving to Dagenham ,and taking the opprotuinty to offer new contracts at just over £8 an hour,you can see from that why in work benefits have risen so much.

    They know the government will subsidise the jobs.
  • tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    In line with the subject we have a Tesco distribution warehouse in Harlow where i live,it currently pay £12 -£14 an hour Tesco are closing it down and moving to Dagenham ,and taking the opprotuinty to offer new contracts at just over £8 an hour,you can see from that why in work benefits have risen so much.

    They know the government will subsidise the jobs.

    Thats going on alot, companys making the state pay in work benefits to increase profits for them and there shareholders. But its sad to see that people are being blamed for claiming benefits when its companys that are robbing the country, everyway possable
  • Richard1960Richard1960 Posts: 20,340
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    tim59 wrote: »
    Thats going on alot, companys making the state pay in work benefits to increase profits for them and there shareholders. But its sad to see that people are being blamed for claiming benefits when its companys that are robbing the country, everyway possable

    Thats true and its not even as though Tesco are in danger of going bust. I do not blame people but where corporates can afford to pay a decent wage they should,and not rely on the taxpayer subsidies such as working tax credits.

    Which is what i mean by corporates being involved in a race to the botton funded by taxpayer cash.
  • gummy mummygummy mummy Posts: 26,600
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    In line with that we have a Tesco distribution warehouse in Harlow where i live,it currently pays £12 -£14 an hour Tesco are closing it down and moving to Dagenham ,and taking the opprotuinty to offer new contracts at just over £8 an hour,you can see from that why in work benefits have risen so much.

    They know the government will subsidise the jobs.

    Exactly which is wrong.

    You may find this interesting if you don't know about it already

    http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2013/03/29/tesco-called-on-government-to-scrap-benefit-sanctions-as-profits-dipped/
  • Richard1960Richard1960 Posts: 20,340
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    Exactly which is wrong.

    You may find this interesting if you don't know about it already

    http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2013/03/29/tesco-called-on-government-to-scrap-benefit-sanctions-as-profits-dipped/

    Yes its wrong alright.

    Thanks for trhe link this stood out.:(

    There is another reason why Tesco might oppose benefit sanctions however. Whilst Tesco are far from the cheapest shop, they are often the biggest in areas where there are high numbers of benefit claimants. A significant chunk of the UK’s social security budget ends up in the pockets of Tesco shareholders – along with small local businesses and the utilities companies – something George Osborne seems to have forgotten.
  • Andy2Andy2 Posts: 11,949
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    PeggysDad wrote: »
    This is ridiculous.

    It wasn't the caller who asked IDS the question, it was the presenter.

    Yes, but the caller was making out that he was on the breadline and that IDS's cuts would cripple him etc. In fact he was a liar, as he gambles his money away on the gee-gees. If you have money to burn like this, you shouldn't be calling radio stations pretending to be broke.
    I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that it was a put-up job, a bit like that girl on QT who turned out to be a labour activist.
  • iamsofirediamsofired Posts: 13,054
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    He doesnt have to because he made a success of his life, instead of sitting around blaming rich people and tories.
  • Richard1960Richard1960 Posts: 20,340
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    iamsofired wrote: »
    He doesnt have to because he made a success of his life, instead of sitting around blaming rich people and tories.

    Come on now i think Betsy his wife with the ancesstral home at no cost to him might have played a part.:)
  • Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    iamsofired wrote: »
    He doesnt have to because he made a success of his life, instead of sitting around blaming rich people and tories.
    He doesnt have to because he married someone rich.
  • Pisces CloudPisces Cloud Posts: 30,239
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    iamsofired wrote: »
    He doesnt have to because he made a success of his life, instead of sitting around blaming rich people and tories.

    April 1st was yesterday.
  • TLcs44TLcs44 Posts: 73
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    moonburn wrote: »
    lol this just gets more and more surreal.
    live on 53 pounds a week? or exist?
    What worries me the most they seem to think people on Benefits are somehow immune to the cost of living rises.

    This is going to end in disaster its got the same arrogance as the poll tax

    The Tories did that and then got rid of that "lovely lady.". So pleased the "lady" is lost without her family's support.and her husband is 6 feet under and does not know the time of day. I bet she does not know the price of a pint of milk either
    Lets all do the right thing by not trusting the Tories and the Lib Dems or that Labour Party.
    This Goverment will not win in 2015
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 16,275
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    He says he has lived on benefits before failing to acknowledge how much worse things are (and how much he is making them worse) for the unemployed nowadays.
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