now the papers say they are gonna get married. .maybe they can sell their story and make some cash as well to set them up when he gets out ...if they make a go of it then good luck to them
I agree. The police are investigating information that during the trial there was communication between Forrest and the girl via a third party. That was when she started taking the blameand full responsibilty for everything that happened. Since she was only 13 when she first received his attentions, the whole notion that he is a helpless puppet in her hands is ludicrous.
There is no escaping the fact that when men go after children, it is ALWAYS their fault.
LOL She seems to be getting younger and younger whenever we hear the age about when he started "grooming" her. I wonder how long it will be before the Daily Heil, or the Sun, start telling us he started grooming her mother when they were both at primary school. :rolleyes:
LOL She seems to be getting younger and younger whenever we hear the age about when he started "grooming" her. I wonder how long it will be before the Daily Heil, or the Sun, start telling us he started grooming her mother when they were both at primary school. :rolleyes:
It was the Judge who said 13 so Im kinda inclined to believe him:)
I just hope that no pressure is put on her by him or his family to wait for him. Most of us wouldn't care to see our daughters wasting what ought to be wonderful years of their lives languishing in wait for a middle aged man with no money or prospects and a serious criminal record.
Oh, I wouldn't be surprised for them to get married - there will be a certain amount of 'sticking it to the man'-ness going on.
It how they will fare after the spotlight turns onto the next story and they are left living on whatever wage an 18/19 year old college leaver brings in while a mid-30's, banned from his profession, jailed for sex offences man tries to find a job of any description.
That will be the big test.
Juliet never had to wash Romeo's socks.
Elizabeth had staff to cook Mr Darcy's dinner.
I think some look at his like an old fashioned love story that the authorities have trampled on, rather than looking at the facts, and the Judges statement is certainly worthy of reading.
Exactly.
Some people spout off seriously dodgy opinions about this with no regard for the actual facts.
Even though she's 16, she still has to obtain both parents permission if she wants to marry him before 18.
what amazes me is that his wife still loves him
Why?
The man is a rat who cares about. getting his kicks. Even if the girl was old enough, I'd say this
So the judge thought of a random age without any evidence:eek: What is the legal system coming to.? Judges come to an opinion based on facts:)
I was making a more general point, not disputing that particular one. I've heard plenty of judges' utterly damning 'summings up' in cases which have later been been overturned. I don't think they're to be swallowed whole without question.
I was making a more general point, not disputing that particular one. I've heard plenty of judges' utterly damning 'summings up' in cases which have later been been overturned. I don't think they're to be swallowed whole without question.
A judge will sum up based on the evidence presented. A case may well be overturned but its usually because of new evidence.
Who would want to date a woman who watches every move you make, or questions every word you say, just looking for a reason to put you down.
A woman like would certainly start ringing alarm bells for me. As to the other bit they were probably just as trusting and innocent before life made them hardened, suspicious and cynical.
I wouldn't feel comfortable in a relationship with someone who didn't trust me. And no, that doesn't imply they would have to be of school age.
A woman like would certainly start ringing alarm bells for me. As to the other bit they were probably just as trusting and innocent before life made them hardened, suspicious and cynical.
I wouldn't feel comfortable in a relationship with someone who didn't trust me. And no, that doesn't imply they would have to be of school age.
Most women aren't like that, though, and so there would be absolutely no need to look at teenagers instead.
This thread has highlighted to me just how many paedophiles there are out there! They can dress it up all they like and bang on about consent etc but the fact remains........age 16 is the age of consent, if you have sex with someone under the age of consent and you are an adult then you are a paedophile pure and simple. I fear for the future with all the excusers on here <shudders>
I kind of want to point out how you're completely wrong, but am fearful of being labelled an excuser and thus a paedophile. I guess that's a good tactic you've got there.
Having read her fathers thoughts, I can see where she gets her gullibility. He sounds very simple minded.
And/or he had a poor relationship with her (which would fit as paedos usually look to groom damaged teenagers) and he;s using this situation to try and get back in her good books. She's a celeb now after all...
Having read her fathers thoughts, I can see where she gets her gullibility. He sounds very simple minded.
And/or he had a poor relationship with her (which would fit as paedos usually look to groom damaged teenagers) and he;s using this situation to try and get back in her good books. She's a celeb now after all...
Yes, it seems like she had a poor relationship with both parents. Easy prey for Jeremy. He's a disgrace of a "father". It's telling that she isn't living with either of her biological parents.
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I'd just hit the report button. This forum would be a better place without those types of unfounded allegations/accusations.
I'd only report it if it was aimed at me.
What a truly f'ed up family. I feel sorry for the girl.
I think a film could be made of their story!
This thread certainly would be.
Yeah an educational one to be shown to all young girls pointing out the pitfalls and signs of a predatory male:)
LOL She seems to be getting younger and younger whenever we hear the age about when he started "grooming" her. I wonder how long it will be before the Daily Heil, or the Sun, start telling us he started grooming her mother when they were both at primary school. :rolleyes:
It was the Judge who said 13 so Im kinda inclined to believe him:)
Oh, I wouldn't be surprised for them to get married - there will be a certain amount of 'sticking it to the man'-ness going on.
It how they will fare after the spotlight turns onto the next story and they are left living on whatever wage an 18/19 year old college leaver brings in while a mid-30's, banned from his profession, jailed for sex offences man tries to find a job of any description.
That will be the big test.
Juliet never had to wash Romeo's socks.
Elizabeth had staff to cook Mr Darcy's dinner.
The judge's summing up is his/her judgement, so still an opinion, it's not passed down from God. In this case, I agree with most of it but not all.
Agreed. Fair made my skin crawl.
So the judge thought of a random age without any evidence:eek: What is the legal system coming to.? Judges come to an opinion based on facts:)
Exactly.
Some people spout off seriously dodgy opinions about this with no regard for the actual facts.
what amazes me is that his wife still loves him
Why?
The man is a rat who cares about. getting his kicks. Even if the girl was old enough, I'd say this
I was making a more general point, not disputing that particular one. I've heard plenty of judges' utterly damning 'summings up' in cases which have later been been overturned. I don't think they're to be swallowed whole without question.
A judge will sum up based on the evidence presented. A case may well be overturned but its usually because of new evidence.
And I bet you don't mean the bit which says ...
A woman like would certainly start ringing alarm bells for me. As to the other bit they were probably just as trusting and innocent before life made them hardened, suspicious and cynical.
I wouldn't feel comfortable in a relationship with someone who didn't trust me. And no, that doesn't imply they would have to be of school age.
Most women aren't like that, though, and so there would be absolutely no need to look at teenagers instead.
I didn't actually say that there was a need.
Since my post is being viewed out of context, lets give it some.
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And/or he had a poor relationship with her (which would fit as paedos usually look to groom damaged teenagers) and he;s using this situation to try and get back in her good books. She's a celeb now after all...
Yes, it seems like she had a poor relationship with both parents. Easy prey for Jeremy. He's a disgrace of a "father". It's telling that she isn't living with either of her biological parents.
By this logic, if the paedophile then moves to a country where the age of consent is 15 rather than 16, they are no longer a paedophile
Ill-educated nonsense
What does that have to do with anything?
Law and norms differ greatly from country to country. They also change over time. Does "child abuser" sound any better?