Wife Burned To Death For Leaving House Without Permission
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A Pakistani man and his father have been arrested in the country's latest so-called "honor killing" after they set the son's wife alight for leaving the house without asking his permission, police said Sunday.
Muhammad Siddique became enraged on learning that his wife, Shabana Bibi, 25, had visited her sister without first asking him if she could go out, her brother Muhammad Azam said.
Siddique and his father then beat Bibi before dousing her with petrol and setting her on fire in Central Pakistan's Muzaffargarh district on Friday, Azam said.
Bibi had been married to Siddique for three years, during which time she had suffered repeated domestic abuse for the couple's inability to have children, Azam said.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/asia/2015/04/19/Husband-sets-wife-on-fire-in-Pakistan-honor-killing-.html
Yes. That's right. She disobeyed her husband so had to die.
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Domestic abuse isn't pretty in any country is it. Sadly there is no country where it doesn't exist either, make of that what you will.
Or is there another agenda here??
Threads started by OP would suggest that
Domestic abuse is horrific - but this - well it's not just the husband throwing a wobbly - heat of the moment after a big row/drinking - the father in law even helped.
If my husband hit me I'm pretty sure my father in law wouldn't join in the beating.
Man hangs wife for not having kids
http://nation.com.pk/national/19-Apr-2015/man-hangs-wife-for-not-having-kids
Sadly domestic abuse doesn't always follow the stereotypes, it is often nothing to do with a wobbly or a big row (if you are in an abusive relationship the last thing you do is row), it is often far more considered than that. Also it isn't always the husband. there are as many variations as there are people.
How about the one where Muslims treat women as owned chattels to be abused or killed at will?
Some Muslims you mean, yes I imagine that is what the OP was going for.
Indeed, it doesn't include the women, obviously.
Actually in extended families there have been accounts of the mother in laws being incredibly abusive to their sons wives as well.
Basically regardless of religion people can be real bastards to each other when they get the chance.
That's true, but I wouldn't make any excuses for a religion which has turned brutality, murder, abuse and sheer horror into a fine art.
I wouldn't make any excuses for such a religion either, it's why I am an atheist (among other reasons). The issue here is the behaviour of an individual and the culture within which they exist which enables them to feel this is acceptable. This isn't a culture which is unique to any one religion. Sadly.
Unless you are expected to get your husband's permission before you go to see your sister, comparing him and his Dad to the pair of murderers in the OP is a bit pointless. .
You, your husband and his Dad are all products of a society that sees men and women differently to the society where the three people in the OP are from.
When my Dad beat my Mum if his Dad was there he egged him on and told him to hit harder.
I guess they are muslim....i don't know and don't really care. I don't even know if they are of Indian or Pakistani parentage because i can never tell the difference. All i know is they are both real nice people and thats all that matters to me.
Funny old world eh?
I think OP and others like him prefer to concentrate on the 'Moozlims' because they seem to be fair game these days.
Similar things happen next door.. i.e India, where gang rapes and murders of females and the innocent seem a daily occurrence, but I guess he'll never mention that...
I make it a poor attempt to downplay murder because that's what this case is.
Really? That's a bit of a poor attempt itself i think. It was referred to in the op as domestic abuse and I mirrored that phrase. Trying to imply that I am somehow trying to downplay the fact that it was also murder because I didn't state the bleeding obvious seems a bit desperate. I didnt reiterate the fact that she was burned to death either, am I downplaying that too? What a ridiculous angle to try and take.
Bloody helll James.:(:(
The Hindus and Christian minority is persecuted every week.
He was just the same a alcoholic abuser.
My Mum wasn't allowed to leave the house either unless given permission at one point I don't think she went out for about 2 years not even to the corner shop.
Even when he was in prison he warned her he had friends watching and if she went out he would find out.
The police told her after yet another beating one day he would have killed her and if she didn't finally get away from him I do think she would be dead by now.
Ignoring the thread title, honour killing and the fact that this horrific act was done by her husband and father, you latched on to domestic abuse which was mentioned in the last paragraph so yes, Really.
" Or is there another agenda here??" you asked, well I know what you meant there but how about the OP being female and finds the treatment of women in these backward countries disgusting.