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So Matt Smith will be the last Doctor?

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I thought this would happen, but I hoped that it wouldn't but here we go.
1. Clara says that she saw ALL the doctors, and she said that there are only eleven of them (Except John Hurt of course). This means that Matt's doctor IS the last Doctor, the eleventh doctor.
2. The TARDIS that the Doctor is buried in looks the same as the current one, meaning that at least the TARDIS won't be changing anymore until his death
That's my thoughts :)
Also has anyone realised that on the close up of the big TARDIS tomb you can see the crack on the window from the rough landing before in the episode?
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    StigStig Posts: 12,446
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    The BBC won't be cancelling the series when Matt leaves, will they. So no, Matt Smith isn't the last Doctor.
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    Joy DeanJoy Dean Posts: 21,346
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    The actor portraying the Doctor is irrelevant. Actors come and go. The Doctor will always be here.
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    ea91ea91 Posts: 2,363
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    Unless John Hurt is the Twelfth Doctor and Eleven remembers him from when he meets him as Ten in the 50th.
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    Slow_LorisSlow_Loris Posts: 24,881
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    The last dr up until that point I assumed? She didn't need to save drs past today's episode
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    ea91ea91 Posts: 2,363
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    gilesb wrote: »
    The last dr up until that point I assumed? She didn't need to save drs past today's episode

    Though that does raise the logical possibility of Doctor Simeon lurking in every next adventure the Doctor has for the rest of his life...
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    lordOfTimelordOfTime Posts: 22,371
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    Clara saw all the Doctors their had ever been. Not all the ones ever or ever will be. Matt is not the last Doctor but I thought John Hurt was. :o
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 328
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    ea91 wrote: »
    Though that does raise the logical possibility of Doctor Simeon lurking in every next adventure the Doctor has for the rest of his life...

    Yes, and Clara would be there to stop him.

    My bigger question would be; if the Doctor remembers Clara from the asylum and then from Victorian London, why does he not remember all of the other ones?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 40
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    Idk, she did go into the whole timestream. If she only saw the past and knew that, why was she so surprised when she saw Hurt?
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    ea91ea91 Posts: 2,363
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    Spence1115 wrote: »
    Yes, and Clara would be there to stop him.

    Except that she did state she only met 11 incarnations.
    Spence1115 wrote: »
    My bigger question would be; if the Doctor remembers Clara from the asylum and then from Victorian London, why does he not remember all of the other ones?

    Presumably she didn't interact as much with each of them. And given that she knew he knew about the Asylum and Victorian London and that he was her Doctor, she went all out on those occasions.
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    HelboreHelbore Posts: 16,069
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    galactichunter wrote: »
    I thought this would happen, but I hoped that it wouldn't but here we go.
    1. Clara says that she saw ALL the doctors, and she said that there are only eleven of them (Except John Hurt of course). This means that Matt's doctor IS the last Doctor, the eleventh doctor.
    2. The TARDIS that the Doctor is buried in looks the same as the current one, meaning that at least the TARDIS won't be changing anymore until his death
    That's my thoughts :)
    Also has anyone realised that on the close up of the big TARDIS tomb you can see the crack on the window from the rough landing before in the episode?

    Time can be rewritten.
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    !!11oneone!!11oneone Posts: 4,098
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    If Matt died at Trenzalore, as he would have done without Clara, then that timey-wimey stream would only contain his life up until that point. Clara saved him, so presumably at that point, his stream would start to change to contain all the future stuff that would now take place. But at the point she stepped in, there had only been 11 doctors because he was about to die.
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    The Alpha GamerThe Alpha Gamer Posts: 3,122
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    Spence1115 wrote: »
    Yes, and Clara would be there to stop him.

    My bigger question would be; if the Doctor remembers Clara from the asylum and then from Victorian London, why does he not remember all of the other ones?

    She said in the episode, she kept talking to him, but most times he didn't even hear her.
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    big brother 9big brother 9 Posts: 18,153
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    He just might not die and they change his face
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    BrotherLoveBrotherLove Posts: 2,982
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    I was wondering the significance of the cracked window on the tardis as well. They go out of their way to show it in the shot after the hard landing.

    ...we then look up and his tardis from the future also has the same crack so are we to believe this crack just remains there until he is buried, or does it happen in the very near future before it is repaired?

    I very much doubt we'll continue to see this crack in all future episodes of Who before he croaks it. The tardis must do some form of self repair - after all it's always blowing up!

    Strange.
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    Gary of BeestonGary of Beeston Posts: 740
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    Spence1115 wrote: »
    My bigger question would be; if the Doctor remembers Clara from the asylum and then from Victorian London, why does he not remember all of the other ones?

    As Clara's voiceover says "sometimes he hears me, sometime he doesn't" (I'm paraphrasing-sorry) but she is always there or thereabouts.

    All those Deus ex Machinas? They were Clara ex Machinas!

    Gary
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 40
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    Gary of Beeston wrote: »
    As Clara's voiceover says "sometimes he hears me, sometime he doesn't" (I'm paraphrasing-sorry) but she is always there or thereabouts.

    All those Deus ex Machinas? They were Clara ex Machinas!

    Gary

    More like Deus ex Clara ;) (God from Clara rather than Clara from the machine :D)
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    galactichunter wrote: »
    2. The TARDIS that the Doctor is buried in looks the same as the current one, meaning that at least the TARDIS won't be changing anymore until his death

    Oh yes, the BBC will cancel a 50-year-old show which has finally gained worldwide recognition because the props department used the same prop twice in the same episode.
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    KoquillionKoquillion Posts: 1,905
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    BrotherLove wrote: »
    I was wondering the significance of the cracked window on the tardis as well. They go out of their way to show it in the shot after the hard landing.

    ...we then look up and his tardis from the future also has the same crack so are we to believe this crack just remains there until he is buried, or does it happen in the very near future before it is repaired?

    I very much doubt we'll continue to see this crack in all future episodes of Who before he croaks it. The tardis must do some form of self repair - after all it's always blowing up!

    Strange.

    Enough with th crack already! The crack on the TombTARDIS is on the side, not on the door. Watch it and this is obvious. So theories about cracks are cracked! The crack is shown so that when we see team Vastra inside the biggified TARDIS and they look up and see the cracked side window, we know exactly where they are.

    Either that or a duck fell through a crack in time, swerved to avoid a red balloon, narrowly missed a flickering lightbulb in Cumbria and flew into the window and broke it.
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    Shawn_LunnShawn_Lunn Posts: 9,353
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    11th Doctor, not the last one.
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    KezMKezM Posts: 1,397
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    Koquillion wrote: »
    Enough with th crack already! The crack on the TombTARDIS is on the side, not on the door. Watch it and this is obvious. So theories about cracks are cracked! The crack is shown so that when we see team Vastra inside the biggified TARDIS and they look up and see the cracked side window, we know exactly where they are.

    Either that or a duck fell through a crack in time, swerved to avoid a red balloon, narrowly missed a flickering lightbulb in Cumbria and flew into the window and broke it.

    Now I'm really confused. In one thread people are telling people that the only reason some of the plots don't make sense is because they don't pay enough attention. And now in another thread people are being patronised because they are analysing small details :rolleyes:.
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    TheSilentFezTheSilentFez Posts: 11,103
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    It's a television show. You can't expect the production team to actually know the future.
    With regards to Clara seeing all the Doctor's faces, she only had to save him from the GI up until the present moment and no further.
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    AvidianAvidian Posts: 6,049
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    Koquillion wrote: »
    Enough with th crack already! The crack on the TombTARDIS is on the side, not on the door. Watch it and this is obvious. So theories about cracks are cracked! The crack is shown so that when we see team Vastra inside the biggified TARDIS and they look up and see the cracked side window, we know exactly where they are.

    Either that or a duck fell through a crack in time, swerved to avoid a red balloon, narrowly missed a flickering lightbulb in Cumbria and flew into the window and broke it.
    http://i44.tinypic.com/23tnrbt.png

    http://i40.tinypic.com/2r4tlog.png

    http://i39.tinypic.com/2mwiln8.png

    It looks like the same crack to me, under the "E" in POLICE, on the "door" :o
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    CorwinCorwin Posts: 16,609
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    Avidian wrote: »
    http://i44.tinypic.com/23tnrbt.png

    http://i40.tinypic.com/2r4tlog.png

    http://i39.tinypic.com/2mwiln8.png

    It looks like the same crack to me, under the "E" in POLICE, on the "door" :o

    There's no door handles, there's no telephone, there's no St John Ambulance sticker so what you are seeing isn't the Front of the Tomb TARDIS but one of the sides.


    The crack in the current TARDIS is on a front window not a side window.
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    KoquillionKoquillion Posts: 1,905
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    KezM wrote: »
    Now I'm really confused. In one thread people are telling people that the only reason some of the plots don't make sense is because they don't pay enough attention. And now in another thread people are being patronised because they are analysing small details :rolleyes:.

    ...incorrectly analysing small details because they don't pay enough attention?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 175
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    Corwin wrote: »
    There's no door handles, there's no telephone, there's no St John Ambulance sticker so what you are seeing isn't the Front of the Tomb TARDIS but one of the sides.


    The crack in the current TARDIS is on a front window not a side window.
    good pickup lol
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