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Do Child abusers get attacked in prison because their crimes are so abhorrent or is it because violent prisoners know they can get away with it?
I'm wondering if prison can be seen as microcosm of our society and that the general feeling is that child abuse is the worst possible crime.
I'm wondering if prison can be seen as microcosm of our society and that the general feeling is that child abuse is the worst possible crime.
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I would recommend Parkhurst Tales and it's sequel as a good insight. Really entertaining, it's a collection of short stories from various prisons. My favourites are "Dave the Rave", "The Albany Wall Game" and "Billy G and the Drainhole Cell". That last one, if you think after reading it will tell you a lot about perseverance.
A bit of both. Prisons aren't full of decent upstanding citizens with strong morals. They're populated, for the most part, with scumbags and some of them like the idea of battering someone else whilst adopting the moral high ground.
That's the part I struggle with,how could a murderer(for instance) possibly experience moral outrage?
In the majority if not all civilised societies is not murder considered to be the more serious crime?
Whenever an abuser is jailed there are always cries of "they'll get what's coming to them in prison etc"it's almost as if it's a given.
I just wonder why it is seen by some as acceptable that they be judged and punished by individuals no better than they they are.
Everyone has their own set of morals which they see as the best in their own eyes.
For example you find people who are totally against abortion yet for the death penalty.
I can't really understand how those two points of view fit together but to the person who does they are completely rational.
Well exactly! "I might be a psychopathic killer who murdered 3 people in cold blood but at least I'm not one of THEM!!!!"
We all do it to some degree.
But, as someone else pointed out - people is max security tend to be violent anyway and so they can carry out their violence and "feel good" about doing it.
because even some murderers feel that people who have abused kids *and women* are beneath contempt because they have chosen to attack somebody who has no chance whatsoever of fighting back. odd, basic logic maybe, but true
Prison just has a higher concentration of them than society in general, and they are squeezed in together where there is nowhere to run and hide.
In prison, it's a pretty much sardine-like fight for survival, in that you have a load of people in a small place, often in for many years, having to constantly fight for space and status, and resources. Paedos are social pariahs regardless of context but in prison, they are often dealt with violently because the situation allows it. Prisoners can commit acts of violence so they do - while in open society, you can't do that. In prison, you may not think twice about physically attacking some pervert, just like in war, you would consider killing people a normal or acceptable part of your life.
Another thing, is that by putting people below you, you can start to jostle for social stature from a decent starting block.
Anyway, there was a riot & the "gen pop" prisoners took over the prison & made their way into the basement...
Can you imagine being in one of those cells listening to other prisoners being tortured to death, knowing that you were next.
Remember prisoners have kids of their own, and for this reason they give paedo's a hard time, I know what I would do if I had 5 minutes alone with a paedo :mad: they deserve everything they get.
A murderer, for instance, may have killed someone who had the ability to defend themselves - an average adult killing an average adult. However, a paedophile is abusing a child who can't stop it.
I'm not saying that is the correct way of looking at things - after all, murder (for instance) is horrendous. I just assume that the people in prison look at it that way.
After all, if you've murdered or raped, you must have a fairly warped sense of morals anyway.
Scumbags who sexually assault children and adults deserve all they get.
I for one would not care if they got their heads kicked in because of a certain honour among theives.
The prison service has a duty of care to all prisoners, regardless of their crimes. Perhaps you'd like the guards to turn a blind eye when these beatings occur? Perhaps you'd like the injured nonces to be denied medical treatment?
Agreed. Much as I despise nonces, they are there to serve a sentence, not become fodder for those who want carte blanche to abuse who they judge fit. to be abused.
Indeed. Let's remember Stefan Kiszko received many savage beatings from prisoners.