Deal to combat piracy in UK with 'alerts' is imminent
Satellite John
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-27330150
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2014/05/uk-isps-agree-weakened-voluntary-internet-piracy-warning-letters.html
After years of wrangling, a deal between entertainment industry bodies and UK internet service providers to help combat piracy is imminent.
http://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2014/05/uk-isps-agree-weakened-voluntary-internet-piracy-warning-letters.html
After years of wrangling, a deal between entertainment industry bodies and UK internet service providers to help combat piracy is imminent.
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it talks about letters to people suspected of piracy. how might someone be suspected of piracy?
Sorry, but this is something that will never be stopped.
I am not saying that I pirate stuff, but now and again I will download something to have a look/listen to what it is like and if I like i will buy the Cd or DVD. Most of my downloads that way is software, again to have a look and see if it does what I want, but only if there is no trial.
i also download my linux distros by torrent, they could be flagged as well.
Both great statements, also various sites like Rapidshare etc hold a lot of legal material as well as illegal material. I only download films illegally that I have purchased as it is quicker than ripping n encoding a Blu-ray, I like to have a backup of the film I have purchased, so that I can watch on any of my portable devices, I never buy a film more than once. Also I no longer download music, I buy the music from Artists / Bands that I respect from either the band themselves or from somewhere cheaper than HMV, I refuse to pay import prices for a CD that isn't top 40 material. I wouldn't even illegally download the latest Now album, due to wasting HDD space from the amount of sh!t on it. I do however rip any CD's I purchase so that I can listen to it on the move, as sometimes Spotify premium removes tracks from certain albums.
Once again the tools in the Industry have come up with an idea that
Will Never Work !
There is no packet monitoring involved. Scanning Torrent trackers to find the IP addresses of those sharing copyright material is fairly easy with the right software, and has been going on for some years (anyone remember ACS:Law?).
If you use a proxy or VPN, or if you use Usenet or file hosts, then this probably wont affect you in any way.
And yet hardly any prosecutions or fines have been heard about in the past. I still think it's just scaremongering tactics from the BPI. If the film industry had used this a lot in the past, I think there would have been quite a few reports about it. I also think our news channels would have reported it as well, what with some over here also doing it.
It hasn't been used so much in the UK, except by ACS:Law and Davenport Lyons a few years ago (it didn't end well for either), but there have been major cases in Europe and the U.S. where smaller companies are trying to sue Torrent users for insane amounts of money.
The BPI's clients don't seem to be interested in cash settlements (what are the chances of getting £10,000 from a minimum wage earner) and instead have been pushing for a "three strikes then a ban" approach for years.
I've never understood why torrent clients, or some of them, show the IP addresses of the downloaders. Anyway, it's probably just a lot of hot air from the BPI.
IP address probably even though IP addresses are a horrible way of identifying people.
What is the point of this is, if there's no further action?!
If someone is using a Torrent client to download Breaking Bad what has that got to do with the BPI anyway?
While the ISPs are not going to do anything more they ARE going to store details of what they find (AFAIR!). In the event that (some time later) the Copyright Owners get a Court Order to release these details the customer would have zero defence - as he would have been warned 4 times!
Sneaky.
As I wrote in my GD thread on the subject, I do believe that this is the first step in implementing the Digital Economy Act by the back door.
Darren
And set up PRS-type returns processes to allow digital "video libraries" able to get anything and everything.
Stick to open playable standards in the transcode...
Done.
No hassle.
People then go to the retail rental place that supports their kit... they can access what they want for a reasonable fee.
Offer a better retail/rental experience than the pirates. Simples.
We're getting there - but we're still in the realm of (content) only on VHS OR Beta...
The problem is cronyism. The entertainment industries have become used to having government protect their monopoly on culture as has been happening for decades. Thankfully the Internet makes that extremely difficult, if not impossible and they cannot stand that.
The whole fight against piracy is all about regaining the control that has been long lost and is not coming back no matter how much money they throw at government.
The industry's feeling threaten by the very fast upload speeds of these fibre connections, and also the superfast download speeds as well. I never saw the aggressiveness coming from the BPI when 8Mbit connections were the fastest, I think, back in 2009. Faster connections was always going to happen though. It was inevitable that BT would do something to speed up people's broadband. The same thing will likely happen in about 2 years from now.
When I used to repair computers (usually malware acquired from torrents), I would politely suggest the pc owner refrained from using torrents to prevent future infections. The user was usually flabbergasted to be told they were involved in illegal downloading. Often their kids had installed the software and shown them how to search for stuff, and the parent had no idea they were doing anything wrong, or that they could easily be traced.
Whilst people on these forums may know all about copyright, ip addresses etc and take calculated risks, believe it or not, there are folk out there who haven't a clue. The letters they get will literally be educational.