Those Mps who are leaving the Labour Front bench?
What will be there next step(s) and part of the Party are they from, could some of them quit the party and form there own party, go to a different party, stay where they are cause mischief 
Could they one who left the Shadow Cabinet & the new Labour wing of the Party leave a form there own party or stay and try put pressure on Corbyn's Cabinet,
Could we see some one like Liz Kendall or Yvette Cooper leave the labour party and go to another party or form there own one themselves
Could they one who left the Shadow Cabinet & the new Labour wing of the Party leave a form there own party or stay and try put pressure on Corbyn's Cabinet,
Could we see some one like Liz Kendall or Yvette Cooper leave the labour party and go to another party or form there own one themselves
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If there were ever going to be a split it would have been from left wingers (not now corbyn has been elected) because they tend to be more politically active and motivated to join a cause.....and might have put the effort in more to form their own party.....
Obviously the proof will be in the pudding if the public take to Corbyn's polices, but I think it's shortsighted by these MPs to be throwing the towel in.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1snes8j
Does Corbyn not understand that Labour is as divided as the Tories on the EU ??
Wilson allowed a free vote back in the'70's to ensure Labour did not split over Europe.
I very much doubt that's the only reason he's choosing to no take part.
Tired of Chukka Amunna. Now he's a backbencher I hope we see far less of him on TV etc.
These are all the careerist New Labour types who jumped in during the later Blair years. There are a lot of them but they're no good and have achieved little so clearing a few of them out is far from a bad thing, as long as Corbyn can keep his own position secured.
It does go to show how out of touch they are from the actual membership of the party though.
bit in bold. of course. that's exactly what they are saying
I think it will be very hard to form a new party, for finance reasons mainly. The gang of 4 who formed the social democrats joined with the libs ultimately.
They either stay and fight, or they join the lib-dems (or tories even). As I said in another thread, it demonstrates that they weren't "true" socialists at heart - so they may as well be lib-dems or centrist tories,
as we shall see, there aren't many "true" socialists left. certainly not enough to win a GE
In the 1980's it was claimed in a documentary a union was swamping certain local Labour party offices with members to oust the sitting Labour MP and get one to their liking. Falkirk, Tom Watson and Len Mcluskey come to mind now they have free reign?
Thats the bit that surprised me about all this as its been almost 20 years since Blair began his New Labour project. Yet 20 years on the actual party membership seems as true to their old ideals now as back then. What a huge disconnect, shows how useless and 'Westminster bubble' obsessed the political journalists are that they never realised or informed us this was still the case. Time and again though this was the exact explanation for Labour's collapse in Scotland, "I didnt leave Labour, they left me" i'd heard many a SNP supporter say on tv.
You can spot the real self obsessed careerist politicians by how loud they scream as they resign. So far Jamie Reed and Chuka have made the biggest huff and puff and self absorbed "look at me" spoutings as they went out the exit door.
take your ball and play on the back benches
100% this.
I think the whole situation is rather hilarious really.
I'm not sure what sort of response idiots like Cooper expect?
For Labour supporters/the general public to beg them to stay?
They were crap and put up zero opposition when they were shadow ministers. If it was up to me they'd have been asked to leave a long time ago.
The Labour Party much like the Conservatives is a fairly broach Church. Those who have stood down have kept to their principles - which is more than I would have credited them with.
Backing a leader they have fundamental disagreements with would have looked self serving. This way they show a principled stand and are able to fight for their own kind of Labour Party.
There is also a thing known as Cabinet Responsibility - where once a decision is made by Cabinet then members are expected to defend it. Standing down means they will not have to defend a position they fundamentally disagree with.
Step forward Andy Burnham
Good, I hope you are right, particularly in Andy Burnham's case.
You've got it the wrong way round. Chukka was wanting Corbyn to guarantee that Labour would campaign to stay in the EU. It's Chukka that doesn't want a free vote.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/13/chuka-umunna-quits-over-jeremy-corbyns-eu-stance
Wishful thinking on my part maybe - I just want to see Corbyn and Farage sharing the same platform !!!!
They will wait patiently until Corbyn is replaced and one of them will be the next leader.
They haven't left the Labour Party they are just going to be sitting on different benches.
They are staying they just wont be sitting on the front benches.
What's sauce for the goose .....
Andy Burham is coming across as a bit of a 'yes man.'