Actually I was of the opinion that the regeneration issue had been glossed over by ten's throw away line in SJA about being able to regenerate hundreds of times
If Timelords can regenerate only 13 times, then the Doctor has no regeneration left.
John Hurt may be only one the 12 form he's taken - but he chose to remain in David Tennants form, during the regeneration before last. (The Human-Timelord Metacrisis.) That he funnelled off excess energy to his severed hand - made it no less a regeneration. He just didn't look any different at the end of it.
So, no more regenerations according to the 13 Regeneration Rules.
As for how they'll get around it - during 'The Death of The Doctor' on Sarah Jane Adventures, the Doctor tells Clyde that he can regenerate 507 times. (But we can safely assume he lied, going by the jaunty background music.)
However, when the Doctor was dying in 'Let's Kill Hitler' - River donated her 11 remaining regenerations to the Doctor in order to save him. Therefore, I think he's got another ten regenerations thanks to that event.
Of course not. I'm just going by what is established in the series already(that Christopher Eccleston is the 9th Doctor, therefore John Hurt can't be also).
Of course not. I'm just going by what is established in the series already(that Christopher Eccleston is the 9th Doctor, therefore John Hurt can't be also).
You shouldn't really use words like definitely! While I have no doubt that you didn't mean it as such, a lot of people have a problem with opinion/theory being passed off as fact on this forum! Fact is non of us have any idea what the writers are planning!:)
You shouldn't really use words like definitely! While I have no doubt that you didn't mean it as such, a lot of people have a problem with opinion/theory being passed off as fact on this forum! Fact is non of us have any idea what the writers are planning!:)
But it's fairly obvious Steven Moffat wouldn't contradict what is already established. It has to be believable. They can't just go against everything established in the series, otherwise the TARDIS could randomly turn into David Cameron doing karaoke.
Of course not. I'm just going by what is established in the series already(that Christopher Eccleston is the 9th Doctor, therefore John Hurt can't be also).
It's not really established just assumed
We never actually saw McGann regenerate into Eccleston so for all we know (if the regeneration limit was lifted) he could have had many regenerations in between the two.
It is established. It's been established throughout the Moffat era that Matt Smith is the 11th, therefore that makes Christopher Eccleston the 9th.
Yes but the John Hurt Doctor is clearly some sort of disowned Doctor so although even the Doctor may refer to himself as being number 11 etc that's only because he isn't counting the one that he's been keeping secret.
The regeneration limit was never set in stone. The Time Lords offered the Master a whole new cycle in return for saving the Doctor in "The Five Doctors".
When did Eccleston show a image of McGann as 100% say that was his previous incarnation.
Or when was he ever referred to on screen as the 9th incarnation of The Doctor
Again we have only ever assumed that to be the case not was never actually said or proven
What other incarnation could Christopher Eccleston be if Matt Smith is the 11th? David Tennant came before, so that makes him the 10th. That leaves 9th for Christopher Eccleston and 8th for Paul McGann and all the right numbers for the Doctors pre-McGann.
What other incarnation could Christopher Eccleston be if Matt Smith is the 11th? David Tennant came before, so that makes him the 10th. That leaves 9th for Christopher Eccleston and 8th for Paul McGann and all the right numbers for the Doctors pre-McGann.
What other incarnation could Christopher Eccleston be if Matt Smith is the 11th? David Tennant came before, so that makes him the 10th. That leaves 9th for Christopher Eccleston and 8th for Paul McGann and all the right numbers for the Doctors pre-McGann.
Because none of them have ever been referred to by number just the name The Doctor.
Plus has it's been said as this one wasn't allowed to use The Doctor name then Eccleston may have called himself the 9th Doctor but was the 10th incarnation.
And if it was the Doctors greatest secret than maybe he just lied about which incarnation he was as remember rule number one
Plus I just recalled this line from "School reunion"
DOCTOR: Hello, Sarah Jane.
SARAH: It's you. Oh, Doctor Oh, my God, it's you, isn't it. You've regenerated.
DOCTOR: Yeah. Half a dozen times since we last met.
She last met The 5th Doctor in The Five Doctors so half a dozen regenerations later and we have the 11th Incarnation
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The 11th Doctor said that, not 10.
No, it was the 12th Doctor who said that, not the the 11th.
Confused, you should be.
John Hurt will never be the 9th Doctor,so definately the 11th.
Do you have inside info?
John Hurt may be only one the 12 form he's taken - but he chose to remain in David Tennants form, during the regeneration before last. (The Human-Timelord Metacrisis.) That he funnelled off excess energy to his severed hand - made it no less a regeneration. He just didn't look any different at the end of it.
So, no more regenerations according to the 13 Regeneration Rules.
As for how they'll get around it - during 'The Death of The Doctor' on Sarah Jane Adventures, the Doctor tells Clyde that he can regenerate 507 times. (But we can safely assume he lied, going by the jaunty background music.)
However, when the Doctor was dying in 'Let's Kill Hitler' - River donated her 11 remaining regenerations to the Doctor in order to save him. Therefore, I think he's got another ten regenerations thanks to that event.
Of course not. I'm just going by what is established in the series already(that Christopher Eccleston is the 9th Doctor, therefore John Hurt can't be also).
You shouldn't really use words like definitely! While I have no doubt that you didn't mean it as such, a lot of people have a problem with opinion/theory being passed off as fact on this forum! Fact is non of us have any idea what the writers are planning!:)
But it's fairly obvious Steven Moffat wouldn't contradict what is already established. It has to be believable. They can't just go against everything established in the series, otherwise the TARDIS could randomly turn into David Cameron doing karaoke.
It's not really established just assumed
We never actually saw McGann regenerate into Eccleston so for all we know (if the regeneration limit was lifted) he could have had many regenerations in between the two.
It is established. It's been established throughout the Moffat era that Matt Smith is the 11th, therefore that makes Christopher Eccleston the 9th.
When did Eccleston show a image of McGann as 100% say that was his previous incarnation.
Or when was he ever referred to on screen as the 9th incarnation of The Doctor
Again we have only ever assumed that to be the case not was never actually said or proven
Yes but the John Hurt Doctor is clearly some sort of disowned Doctor so although even the Doctor may refer to himself as being number 11 etc that's only because he isn't counting the one that he's been keeping secret.
What other incarnation could Christopher Eccleston be if Matt Smith is the 11th? David Tennant came before, so that makes him the 10th. That leaves 9th for Christopher Eccleston and 8th for Paul McGann and all the right numbers for the Doctors pre-McGann.
Who said Matt Smith was the 11th?
Various references throughout the Moffat era. The 11th Doctor even said so himself in the Lodger.
But that's because he isn't counting the secret one.
Because none of them have ever been referred to by number just the name The Doctor.
Plus has it's been said as this one wasn't allowed to use The Doctor name then Eccleston may have called himself the 9th Doctor but was the 10th incarnation.
And if it was the Doctors greatest secret than maybe he just lied about which incarnation he was as remember rule number one
Plus I just recalled this line from "School reunion"
She last met The 5th Doctor in The Five Doctors so half a dozen regenerations later and we have the 11th Incarnation
But if the secret one is a secret 9th incarnation, then that messes the merchandise and everything.