I think I will Maybe even 50" :eek: But 47" sounds fine. Bigger size means I can get more out of BD.
Does that TV have component sockets BTW? I need them for the Wii.
The 3D I watched in the Panasonic store was not very good. I thought the one I saw in Currys was better. As the Panasonic and LG use the same 3D panel, I guess it was just the disc/programme they were showing. I will probably go for the 3D option just in case. You can't add it to the Tv later!
Just be aware that the panel witin the Pana LCD range changes with each model IE the panel in ET60 is vastly better than the screen in E6.
Pans store prices may be higher because they have the 5 year guarantee , if you had 5 years guarantee to the others prices they will be higher than the pana dealers !
Yes the Panasonic dealer has the 5 year guarantee compared to Currys 12 months. However, John Lewis give a 5-year guarantee and match Currys price.
I'd rather pay a little bit more in a local Panasonic shop - but not too much more
They seemed to be about £50 more on most things - but were over £100 more on a couple of things.
Sorry. No idea what 'shared with composite' means!
One thought about home theatre:
You do know that the speakers connect to the Blu-ray that comes with the system? If you want to keep your current Blu-ray you will have to connect both blu-rays to the TV.
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It says "Component shared with composite" - what does that mean? If I didnt have component cables it would come out as composite?
That 47" TV (which I think must be new for 2013) looks a beast and very good, John Lewis have it for £899 (including 5 year guarantee).
It means that one of the three phono sockets used for video on the AV2 input (if I recall the manual correctly) is shared between one element of Component Video mode (which has three elements - hence three sockets) and Composite Video mode which only requires a single socket.
Just a way of saving on phono sockets really. Though quite what you are supposed to do if you have two devices, one with Composite and one with Component video as they cannot be used at the same time.
Sorry. No idea what 'shared with composite' means!
One thought about home theatre:
You do know that the speakers connect to the Blu-ray that comes with the system? If you want to keep your current Blu-ray you will have to connect both blu-rays to the TV.
I didnt know that, I might have to go down the seperates route then...
There may be a way to connect to your current blu-ray – it depends on the model and what connections are on the back. You’ll have to go through the instructions and see. As I’ve said, I’ve only just looked into this so don’t know all the options! On the system I bought there are 6 pairs of connections on the back of the blu-ray for the 5 speakers and sub-woofer to connect to.
I guess if you buy a system with a receiver as suggested in another reply then everything can be connected through that – it just means an extra bit of kit.
If you didn’t want to keep your current blu-ray, then the complete blu-ray home theatre system would be the simplest option.
Looking back, I’m lucky I bought the system I did as I could easily have ended up with something that wasn’t really suited to the new Tv I’ve decided to get! I was looking at cheaper options – which would have been a waste in hindsight.
Currys are lying. The SOGA gives up to 6 years protection. EU rules give you a 2 year guarantee.
Why do people keep posting this same incorrect information? - the EU rules don't apply in the UK, only the SOGA does - which gives a ONE YEAR WARRANTY. If in doubt refer to Trading Standards.
So Currys (unusually) are being perfectly accurate and truthful.
The Panasonic 5 year warranty though is far better than the other options, as it's a proper manufacturers warranty, and not a third part reduced warranty.
I didnt know that, I might have to go down the seperates route then...
If you have a perfectly good fully working Blu-Ray player already then there is no point at all buying an all in one system that duplicates the player as far as I can see.
Personally I would never buy an all in one anyway. They have many disadvantages over a separates system and only one advantage. Convenience.
The disadvantages are that that if the amp stage in the unit dies you also lose the player while it's being fixed. Similarly if the disk player goes you lose the amp as well. Upgrading often means junking the whole lot and starting again from scratch.
With a separates system if the amp went you would still be able to plug the player into the telly and watch movies while you sorted out the repair/replacement. If the disk player fails you can still use the amp to get surround sound from any attached Sky/Freesat/Freeview box.
And if you get the itch to upgrade you can do so in stages, eg a new set of speakers or a new player with out having to ditch any of the other components which may be perfectly serviceable still.
And of course for similar money you can often get a separates system that blows most all in ones into the weeds when it comes to sound quality.
But if you are seduced by the lure of an all in one what rule says that you must connect your existing player up at the same time and have two disk players when you can only watch one at a time? May as well flog the stand alone player or just leave it in it's box to fester in the bottom of a cupboard somewhere. Can't see the point in having an all in one AND stand alone player.:)
I'd rather buy a reciever/speakers TBH
Though if I see an all-in-one maybe I could: Ask them to leave the player out, as I obviously dont need it
Then Buy those speakers, with a reciever. I'd rather connect the speakers to the amp, not a BD player.
Why do people keep posting this same incorrect information? - the EU rules don't apply in the UK, only the SOGA does - which gives a ONE YEAR WARRANTY. If in doubt refer to Trading Standards.
So Currys (unusually) are being perfectly accurate and truthful.
The Panasonic 5 year warranty though is far better than the other options, as it's a proper manufacturers warranty, and not a third part reduced warranty.
Actually the EU directive in question has been incorporated into UK regulations in part at least if not in whole. See
I'd rather buy a reciever/speakers TBH
Though if I see an all-in-one maybe I could: Ask them to leave the player out, as I obviously dont need it
Then Buy those speakers, with a reciever. I'd rather connect the speakers to the amp, not a BD player.
You can't leave out the player in an all in one. That is the whole point of them. The player and amp are in one unit. So if you leave out the player you leave out the amp and vice versa.
Oh yes and perhaps it should be pointed out that the options with an all in one are, everything or nothing. ie you either have amp, player and speakers in one big box or you walk out the shop empty handed.
If you can get to the Watford branch of Richer Sounds (think it's the closest to you???) then they are showing a Yamaha YHT196 in their 'open box deals'. Maybe a chance for a bargain????
All this Plasma v LCD/LED stuff is confusing - some places saying LED's are better, but it depends what you want I guess.
Here it says LED "displays darker blacks" but Plasma "produces high contrast ratios and renders deeper blacks"
I'll mostly use my TV for gaming/BD (obviously normal TV as well!) but I do prefer watching films in the dark - if I could watch in a brighter room it might balance things a bit?
I ended up going round and round in circles as well!
In the end, I knew what I was getting by sticking with LED (having always had LCD) whereas Plasma would have been a little bit of a leap into the unknown - how bright can the room be/does 'burn' really present a problem etc etc.:eek:
90% of new TV sales are LED, which must mean something - although the % is skewed by Plasmas only being available in large screen sizes.
Even the salesman in the Panasonic shop was giving the impression that Plasmas are on the way out and Panasonic have been one of the technology's biggest fans up to now.
Having said that, I have ordered the HD ready Plasma TV for my parents as it was so cheap (comparatively!) and all they do is watch TV on Sky.:o
Yeah I would worry about screen burn and power consumption with plasmas I have LCD so pretty sure I'll be very happy with LED TBH. Don't know much about Plasmas but I guess it depends what you watch.
Yeah I would worry about screen burn and power consumption with plasmas.
Screen burn has never been a great problem - but it IS something you have to be careful about for the first few months - after that it's unlikely to be a concern. For that reason you're better off with LCD for gaming - or wait a few months before you use it for gaming.
My Plasma was second hand, so already well past the 'screen burn' age, and I've NEVER taken any precautions against it (I happily leave it on a game for extended periods).
If I'd had it new, it would have been treated differently though
Power consumption is considerably higher (although lower than they used to be), but is that a concern for you?.
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In my case, the size of the rooms, where the TV can go and how far we sit from the TV (only about 7') means 47" or 50" just isn't an option.
If your room is big enough and you can afford it go for 47"
Does that TV have component sockets BTW? I need them for the Wii.
http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/Products/VIERA+Flat+Screen+TV/Smart+VIERA+LED+TV/TX-L47FT60B/Specification/12204922/index.html?trackInfo=true
Just be aware that the panel witin the Pana LCD range changes with each model IE the panel in ET60 is vastly better than the screen in E6.
Pans store prices may be higher because they have the 5 year guarantee , if you had 5 years guarantee to the others prices they will be higher than the pana dealers !
I'd rather pay a little bit more in a local Panasonic shop - but not too much more
They seemed to be about £50 more on most things - but were over £100 more on a couple of things.
Thanks
It says "Component shared with composite" - what does that mean?
That 47" TV (which I think must be new for 2013) looks a beast and very good, John Lewis have it for £899 (including 5 year guarantee).
One thought about home theatre:
You do know that the speakers connect to the Blu-ray that comes with the system? If you want to keep your current Blu-ray you will have to connect both blu-rays to the TV.
Just a way of saving on phono sockets really. Though quite what you are supposed to do if you have two devices, one with Composite and one with Component video as they cannot be used at the same time.
I guess if you buy a system with a receiver as suggested in another reply then everything can be connected through that – it just means an extra bit of kit.
If you didn’t want to keep your current blu-ray, then the complete blu-ray home theatre system would be the simplest option.
Looking back, I’m lucky I bought the system I did as I could easily have ended up with something that wasn’t really suited to the new Tv I’ve decided to get! I was looking at cheaper options – which would have been a waste in hindsight.
Why do people keep posting this same incorrect information? - the EU rules don't apply in the UK, only the SOGA does - which gives a ONE YEAR WARRANTY. If in doubt refer to Trading Standards.
So Currys (unusually) are being perfectly accurate and truthful.
The Panasonic 5 year warranty though is far better than the other options, as it's a proper manufacturers warranty, and not a third part reduced warranty.
http://www.mrmdvd.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=23_146&products_id=1567
but it's a bit expensive! It will mean you'll have 2 multi-region blu-rays though :-)
Personally I would never buy an all in one anyway. They have many disadvantages over a separates system and only one advantage. Convenience.
The disadvantages are that that if the amp stage in the unit dies you also lose the player while it's being fixed. Similarly if the disk player goes you lose the amp as well. Upgrading often means junking the whole lot and starting again from scratch.
With a separates system if the amp went you would still be able to plug the player into the telly and watch movies while you sorted out the repair/replacement. If the disk player fails you can still use the amp to get surround sound from any attached Sky/Freesat/Freeview box.
And if you get the itch to upgrade you can do so in stages, eg a new set of speakers or a new player with out having to ditch any of the other components which may be perfectly serviceable still.
And of course for similar money you can often get a separates system that blows most all in ones into the weeds when it comes to sound quality.
But if you are seduced by the lure of an all in one what rule says that you must connect your existing player up at the same time and have two disk players when you can only watch one at a time? May as well flog the stand alone player or just leave it in it's box to fester in the bottom of a cupboard somewhere. Can't see the point in having an all in one AND stand alone player.
Though if I see an all-in-one maybe I could: Ask them to leave the player out, as I obviously dont need it
Then Buy those speakers, with a reciever. I'd rather connect the speakers to the amp, not a BD player.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2002/3045/note/made
Though reading the directive itself it makes no mention at all that I can see of a two year guarantee. See Article 6
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31999L0044:en:NOT
I can't see any time period specified for a guarantee?
Oh yes and perhaps it should be pointed out that the options with an all in one are, everything or nothing. ie you either have amp, player and speakers in one big box or you walk out the shop empty handed.
I didn't consider it for myself as it's all a bit 'specialist' for me! :eek:
If you can get to the Watford branch of Richer Sounds (think it's the closest to you???) then they are showing a Yamaha YHT196 in their 'open box deals'. Maybe a chance for a bargain????
No, this 2 year EU warranty is a work of fiction - and certainly in the UK where it wasn't ratified as it's inferior to our existing legislation.
Here it says LED "displays darker blacks" but Plasma "produces high contrast ratios and renders deeper blacks"
I'll mostly use my TV for gaming/BD (obviously normal TV as well!) but I do prefer watching films in the dark - if I could watch in a brighter room it might balance things a bit?
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387377,00.asp
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/led-tv-vs-plasma-tv.html
http://www.johnlewis.com/buying-guides/tv-buying-guide
It sounds like the same thing
In the end, I knew what I was getting by sticking with LED (having always had LCD) whereas Plasma would have been a little bit of a leap into the unknown - how bright can the room be/does 'burn' really present a problem etc etc.:eek:
90% of new TV sales are LED, which must mean something - although the % is skewed by Plasmas only being available in large screen sizes.
Even the salesman in the Panasonic shop was giving the impression that Plasmas are on the way out and Panasonic have been one of the technology's biggest fans up to now.
Having said that, I have ordered the HD ready Plasma TV for my parents as it was so cheap (comparatively!) and all they do is watch TV on Sky.:o
Screen burn has never been a great problem - but it IS something you have to be careful about for the first few months - after that it's unlikely to be a concern. For that reason you're better off with LCD for gaming - or wait a few months before you use it for gaming.
My Plasma was second hand, so already well past the 'screen burn' age, and I've NEVER taken any precautions against it (I happily leave it on a game for extended periods).
If I'd had it new, it would have been treated differently though
Power consumption is considerably higher (although lower than they used to be), but is that a concern for you?.