I am disappointed that so many people are demanding he be sacked.
Who are these 'people'? I wasn't aware that anyone had, until I read this thread and the link. I certainly didn't notice what shirt he was wearing when I first saw his interviews - I was only interested in what he was telling us.
Whatever fuss has been made is nothing short of pathetic and should have been ignored. Seems like we now have fashion police to worry about as well as the PC police, thought police and grammar police...
So there are (absolutely correct) feminist campaigns regarding women being scantily clothed is not an incitement for assault, they of course should wear what ever they like.
Then you have pieces of art depicting a powerful women being scantily clothed and on this side of the coin it is offensive.
I have to say it's getting quite difficult to understand what it is that's correct - which really doesn't help changing minds.
An error of judgement for which he has rightly apologized. We should move on and learn from his mistake that such imagery is not appropriate in the workplace, especially one publicly funded,
As astrophysicist Katie Mack said earlier this week "I don't care what scientists wear. But a shirt featuring women in lingerie isn't appropriate for a broadcast if you care about women in science"
Nor is it appropriate in the workspace. I guess we are finding out why so many on DS are unemployed.
I think it needs to be seen in the context of the problems that women face when trying to be accepted in male dominated professions. I noticed it was a female science journalist who first objected, so I assume she knows how the land lies in that respect.
Is a shirt depicting women in fetish gear really much different to putting pinups on the office wall?
Who are these 'people'? I wasn't aware that anyone had, until I read this thread and the link. I certainly didn't notice what shirt he was wearing when I first saw his interviews - I was only interested in what he was telling us.
Whatever fuss has been made is nothing short of pathetic and should have been ignored. Seems like we now have fashion police to worry about as well as the PC police, thought police and grammar police...
We're turning into a fascist society by the backdoor.
I think it needs to be seen in the context of the problems that women face when trying to be accepted in male dominated professions. I noticed it was a female science journalist who first objected, so I assume she knows how the land lies in that respect.
Is a shirt depicting women in fetish gear really much different to putting pinups on the office wall?
Oh well. In other news, men have put a lander on a comet for the first time in human history.
I think it needs to be seen in the context of the problems that women face when trying to be accepted in male dominated professions. I noticed it was a female science journalist who first objected, so I assume she knows how the land lies in that respect.
Is a shirt depicting women in fetish gear really much different to putting pinups on the office wall?
The images on it looked more comic-book / sci-fi / superhero / manga type stuff to me rather than the outright titillation of nuddy pics.
So there are (absolutely correct) feminist campaigns regarding women being scantily clothed is not an incitement for assault, they of course should wear what ever they like.
Then you have pieces of art depicting a powerful women being scantily clothed and on this side of the coin it is offensive.
I have to say it's getting quite difficult to understand what it is that's correct - which really doesn't help changing minds.
Haha, so true. If women walk around half-naked then it's "sistah powah!" If a bloke has a shirt with cartoon women on it then he's a disgusting chauvinist.
Really, the rest of society should learn to ignore these people.
An error of judgement for which he has rightly apologized. We should move on and learn from his mistake that such imagery is not appropriate in the workplace, especially one publicly funded,
As astrophysicist Katie Mack said earlier this week "I don't care what scientists wear. But a shirt featuring women in lingerie isn't appropriate for a broadcast if you care about women in science"
Nor is it appropriate in the workspace. I guess we are finding out why so many on DS are unemployed.
I am actually surprised that many think its not inappropriate attire for a serious TV interview.
Beach, fine, casual party, fine. shopping, fine.
An error of judgement for which he has rightly apologized. We should move on and learn from his mistake that such imagery is not appropriate in the workplace, especially one publicly funded,
As astrophysicist Katie Mack said earlier this week "I don't care what scientists wear. But a shirt featuring women in lingerie isn't appropriate for a broadcast if you care about women in science"
Nor is it appropriate in the workspace. I guess we are finding out why so many on DS are unemployed.
These are science and tech geeks hunched over bits of computers that control a space probe, hardly surprising that they are going to be dressed like that. I did some work for a company once that specialised in making robots and other hardware, and the guys doing all the tech work were isolated from the rest in this little corner of a big open plan office behind a partition, and all of them looked like rejects from a thrash metal band, but they were all as clever as anything. Who cares what they look like. You're tapping into what they can do with their grey matter.
An error of judgement for which he has rightly apologized. We should move on and learn from his mistake that such imagery is not appropriate in the workplace, especially one publicly funded,
As astrophysicist Katie Mack said earlier this week "I don't care what scientists wear. But a shirt featuring women in lingerie isn't appropriate for a broadcast if you care about women in science"
Nor is it appropriate in the workspace. I guess we are finding out why so many on DS are unemployed.
So are womem who dress like that also being sexist.
Also, did you see the part of the story that the shirt was especially made for him by the wife of his tattooist? Her special big creative moment spoiled too now probably.
(Oh dear, now I'll get picked up for associating sewing with women)
Also, did you see the part of the story that the shirt was especially made for him by the wife of his tattooist? Her special big creative moment spoiled too now probably.
(Oh god, now I'll get picked up for associating sewing with women)
A woman made that shirt for a man?! A traitor to her sex! She should be gagged with her own bra and paraded through the streets as a demonstration of her iniquity!
These are science and tech geeks hunched over bits of computers that control a space probe, hardly surprising that they are going to be dressed like that. I did some work for a company once that specialised in making robots and other hardware, and the guys doing all the tech work were isolated from the rest in this little corner of a big open plan office behind a partition, and all of them looked like rejects from a thrash metal band, but they were all as clever as anything. Who cares what they look like. You're tapping into what they can do with their grey matter.
Indeed. However it was still an error of judgement, and one that is easily forgiveable, partly for the reasons you outline, but mostly for the reason we all "mess up" from time to time.
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It wasn't inappropriate.
His judgement was fine.
No apology was needed and he shouldn't have made one.
Who are these 'people'? I wasn't aware that anyone had, until I read this thread and the link. I certainly didn't notice what shirt he was wearing when I first saw his interviews - I was only interested in what he was telling us.
Whatever fuss has been made is nothing short of pathetic and should have been ignored. Seems like we now have fashion police to worry about as well as the PC police, thought police and grammar police...
I agree. I do partly blame the media though for picking up on the story and running with it.
The guy really should've just ignored the feminista trolls and worn the shirt at every opportunity. Making a grovelling apology was ludicrous.
Absolutely this. Poor bloke. What he wears is probably one of the most trivial matters of his daily life!
Then you have pieces of art depicting a powerful women being scantily clothed and on this side of the coin it is offensive.
I have to say it's getting quite difficult to understand what it is that's correct - which really doesn't help changing minds.
As astrophysicist Katie Mack said earlier this week "I don't care what scientists wear. But a shirt featuring women in lingerie isn't appropriate for a broadcast if you care about women in science"
Nor is it appropriate in the workspace. I guess we are finding out why so many on DS are unemployed.
Is a shirt depicting women in fetish gear really much different to putting pinups on the office wall?
We're turning into a fascist society by the backdoor.
Oh well. In other news, men have put a lander on a comet for the first time in human history.
The images on it looked more comic-book / sci-fi / superhero / manga type stuff to me rather than the outright titillation of nuddy pics.
In other news, women have to put up with these men right here on earth.
Haha, so true. If women walk around half-naked then it's "sistah powah!" If a bloke has a shirt with cartoon women on it then he's a disgusting chauvinist.
Really, the rest of society should learn to ignore these people.
One that demands nothing less than his head on a plate, and others that react to criticism with claims of "Hitler in the 1930s".
Enjoy your computer...
Yes but it's what it depicts that's the problem, not how it's depicted.
I am actually surprised that many think its not inappropriate attire for a serious TV interview.
Beach, fine, casual party, fine. shopping, fine.
Cant see a newsreader wearing one ever!
These are science and tech geeks hunched over bits of computers that control a space probe, hardly surprising that they are going to be dressed like that. I did some work for a company once that specialised in making robots and other hardware, and the guys doing all the tech work were isolated from the rest in this little corner of a big open plan office behind a partition, and all of them looked like rejects from a thrash metal band, but they were all as clever as anything. Who cares what they look like. You're tapping into what they can do with their grey matter.
Way too obvious, yet people still take the bait.
Also, did you see the part of the story that the shirt was especially made for him by the wife of his tattooist? Her special big creative moment spoiled too now probably.
(Oh dear, now I'll get picked up for associating sewing with women)
A woman made that shirt for a man?! A traitor to her sex! She should be gagged with her own bra and paraded through the streets as a demonstration of her iniquity!
Indeed. However it was still an error of judgement, and one that is easily forgiveable, partly for the reasons you outline, but mostly for the reason we all "mess up" from time to time.