The Duel
Patti-Ann
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How does the duel work?
Is it two couple skating the same routine (skating to the same piece of music) - one the first half, one the second
Is it two couple skating the same routine (skating to the same piece of music) - one the first half, one the second
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Indeed, Ray over Hayley is a forgone conclusion . Beth over Sam depends on the routine - she's the only one Robin might save over a male. Suzanne v Kyran would see Robin vote for Kyran. Bonnie v Gareth is a win for Bonnie - unless Robin again goes just for skating ability.
I couldn't agree more with this. Replacing the required element with the 'twists' have been part of what has contributed to the demise of Dancing on Ice
I agree, it could have been done last week. There aren't enough contestants left and there is now a risk of someone really good going.
It worked when there were only one or two good contenders - one in the top two would survive being up against any one a lot of notably worse people. If you split 8 all stars contestants into pairs, and one of each pair is up for the vote, you only need the worst person to get more votes than two random better people to put someone who is fifth best at major risk. If Gareth or Bonnie, has more votes, than say Suzanne or Kyran, you lose a real contender and have one safe, weakest two, skater automatically through.
Ray will beat Hayley
Sam will be saved over Beth unless she keeps up her improvement
Suzanne will beat Kyran
Bonnie will beat Gareth
So the skate off will be between Hayley, Sam/Beth, Kyran and Gareth - and Gareth would go against any of the others if he was in the bottom 2.....
Well I agree Ray would win. Not sure Sam would beat Beth and agree Suzanne would beat Kyran. Gareth/Bonnie is too close to call with Gareth being the better skater and Bonnie the better dancer.
They will save Sam over Beth - they know she has the public support and he doesn't. I guess they'll be aiming to get Bonnie or Gareth out, so putting Beth up for the vote will help do the job.
I'm not so sure that Suzanne will beat Kyron, it will depend on the style and content of their routines.
She doesn't do so well with less emotional or characterised routines. Kyron's skate off showed tonight he can deliver in a more elegant style than he's had so far this series.
Ray would have to totally mess up to lose to anyone (and I'm a Beth fan).
Putting the girls up against Gareth in a public vote might be the best way to get rid of him. Sure one of them will end up there in the process but we all know he will surely go when he does end up in the bottom 2. If the boys are up against him we might end up with a Sam v Kyran skate off.
They should of course just judge on what they see but who knows.
Based on performances to date Ray is the only foregone conclusion for me.
Beth has beaten Sam the last 2 weeks & is improving all the time so for me she would be favourite but I wouldn't rule out Sam.
Suzanne v Kyran is the closest one on paper. She scored higher than him in the first routine, last week he scored better. This week she scored higher but the skating judges scored Kyran higher. It may well come down to a split between the skating & dance judges again which would see Kyran through on Robin's casting vote but if Suzanne can recapture her week 1 magic then Robin & Karen would also likely vote for her.
At their best Bonnie should beat Gareth but Bonnie has been below par the last couple of weeks & any mistakes could be crucial.
There would be no point in the ones at the bottom even skating if it was to work that way. If they are going to do the stupid duel then pairing them based on the leader board is the fairest way
This is the point, though, isn't it? These "twists" are never designed for our sake - the viewer. They're designed so the producers can manipulate the outcome(s) they want.
Duel week is always dull and robs us of, in this case, eight potentially decent/good/great performances. Personally, I can't ever strike up any excitement whilst watching it, because I'm sat there thinking about how manipulative it all is.
All it does it drag the show down, and for what? So we can get rid of Gareth sooner? I'd rather they just let it play out 'naturally', but I guess there's no point moaning - it's happening whether I like it or not and as it's the last series I should just try and roll with it. Can't deny I'm disappointed, though; I really thought we were past the twists after the double eliminations fiasco.
This is stupid, no wonder itv have axed it.