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Max Clifford found guilty

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Well seems they got this one right, seemed to be a right perv! Now who will do his PR!
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    donna255donna255 Posts: 10,172
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    What happened to the other thread about this?????:confused:

    Old Max has dirty laundry on so many, wonder if he will tell tales at a later date??
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 635
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    All the MC threads are closing pretty quickly...
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    Nic_ac addictNic_ac addict Posts: 8
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    I wondered what happened to the other thread?
    Maybe he's controlling the media again? :D
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    ricardoyluciaricardoylucia Posts: 911
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    Hope he dies in prison...the scoundrel ...
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,306
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    I think they were taken down, but now the court case is over guess it ok to comment.
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    dirty dingusdirty dingus Posts: 2,037
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    There was a 9 page thread on max guilty. How far does his manipulation go...the internet?
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    Vodka_DrinkaVodka_Drinka Posts: 28,753
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    End-Em-AllEnd-Em-All Posts: 23,629
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    Where has the other thread gone? Heavy handed DS moderation again, why can things that are being discussed on other forums not be discussed on here?

    Ridiculous!

    Hear, hear!
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    Terry WigonTerry Wigon Posts: 6,831
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    Clifford talking about Savile in 2012. He had a lot of information about what was going on. and with whom. Would be interesting to know what has happened to the evidence Clifford had collated about these high-profile celebs.

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/news/a432759/max-clifford-says-he-knew-of-jimmy-savile-abuse-more-names-to-come-out.html#~oCKjY5HccJ4QJ0
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    DynopiaDynopia Posts: 1,645
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    There was a 9 page thread on max guilty. How far does his manipulation go...the internet?

    You're surprised? DS are firmly in bed with Simon Cowell and Co ....
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    End-Em-AllEnd-Em-All Posts: 23,629
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    Actually, there's a long thread currently going on the GD forum. Looks like the thread here was moved over:

    http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1959305
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    Vodka_DrinkaVodka_Drinka Posts: 28,753
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    End-Em-All wrote: »
    Actually, there's a long thread currently going on the GD forum. Looks like the thread here was moved over:

    http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1959305

    Why have they moved it?:confused:
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 17,021
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    Why have they moved it?:confused:

    Maybe he's been demoted. He's no longer worthy of 'Showbiz'. ;-)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 609
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    i didnt even know there was a general discussions area....
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    Jean_DanielsJean_Daniels Posts: 5,031
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    his team will probally carry on till he gets out,dont forget he knows a lot of secrets reguarding famous people,he will be realeased and just blend back in.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,306
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    He already a old man, and as one of the girl's was 15, then his sentence should be a good few years.
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    big brother 9big brother 9 Posts: 18,153
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    I never know how they can prove historical allegations.
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    GrecomaniaGrecomania Posts: 19,591
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    I never know how they can prove historical allegations.

    Testimony, which is pretty much how all cases are proven.:confused:
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    soundchecksoundcheck Posts: 351
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    Testimony, which is pretty much how all cases are proven.:confused:

    Well evidence also helps, but becomes increasingly difficult to obtain the longer it is between the alleged offence and the trial.

    That said, I was listening to the radio this evening (R4, I think, but I wasn't paying attention) where someone was opining that the jury was probably convinced by the prosecution because the victims were not only convincing and coherent, even under cross-examination, but also because the pattern of each assault was similar - not the same (which might have been a bit suspicious), but revealing a common modus operandi.

    Of course, it probably didn't help Clifford's case that he tried to portray himself in court as a moral, upright and decent bloke, while at the same time his biography reveals that he used to play a game with his mates to see which of them could get a random woman in the street to come into the office and have sex.

    I also heard David Mellor on PM on the way home from work, trying very hard (and only partially succeeding) not to be overwhelmed with smugness. Can't say I blame him. I've never been a particular fan of Mellor, but what Clifford did to him was vile.

    I'm glad he was found guilty, and I hope that the sentence he receives reflects the enormity of his offences. Nasty man.
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    SirMickTravisSirMickTravis Posts: 2,607
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    I'm not aware that David Mellor was one of Clifford's victims. He exposed Mellor, but what's wrong with that? If he'd exposed himself in front of Mellor as part of some kind of blackmail suggestion I'd have some sympathy. But I doubt even Max could write a tabloid headline for that one.
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    soundchecksoundcheck Posts: 351
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    Most of what was printed in the Sun and elsewhere about Mellor's affair was untrue. De Sancha admitted about 10 years ago that she had been encouraged by Clifford to "embellish" the details of the affair to turn it into something lurid and sleazy, when in fact it was as boring as most affairs. No sex in football kit. No toe sucking. No spanking. Not sure whether Clifford had a grudge against Mellor or whether he just saw the opportunity for a big payoff, but Mellor's name was dragged through the headlines for months.
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    i4ui4u Posts: 54,990
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    I'm not aware that David Mellor was one of Clifford's victims. He exposed Mellor, but what's wrong with that? If he'd exposed himself in front of Mellor as part of some kind of blackmail suggestion I'd have some sympathy. But I doubt even Max could write a tabloid headline for that one.

    But the sanctimonious Clifford had a history of organising sex parties (no underage girls of course) had a number of mistresses while declaring himself happily married. Then after his wife died of cancer the git boasted he must be good at his job because she never found out.

    It hasn't been denied one paper asked his permission to print a story about him and a married woman he was having an affair with, they agreed not to print it till he gave the all clear.... a couple of years later.

    He's the turd who touted and promoted the completely false story about the Hamilton's raping a woman. When ordered to pay damages he just laughed it off as an insignificant amount.

    If you check various court papers you'll see he was paid far more money to act for the papers than his clients got for their stories, which must be a conflict of interest. Then there's the little matter of lunch with a red head and a settlement over phone hacking.
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    SirMickTravisSirMickTravis Posts: 2,607
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    i4u wrote: »
    But the sanctimonious Clifford had a history of organising sex parties (no underage girls of course) had a number of mistresses while declaring himself happily married. Then after his wife died of cancer the git boasted he must be good at his job because she never found out.

    It hasn't been denied one paper asked his permission to print a story about him and a married woman he was having an affair with, they agreed not to print it till he gave the all clear.... a couple of years later.

    He's the turd who touted and promoted the completely false story about the Hamilton's raping a woman. When ordered to pay damages he just laughed it off as an insignificant amount.

    If you check various court papers you'll see he was paid far more money to act for the papers than his clients got for their stories, which must be a conflict of interest. Then there's the little matter of lunch with a red head and a settlement over phone hacking.

    If he really had stitched up the Hamiltons it wouldn't have been an insignificant amount. A woman came to him saying she had been raped, he told her to go to the police. What was he supposed to do?

    I'm sure he used his power for his own ends. But don't forget there were plenty of idiots he exposed who bear a grudge. They should blame themselves not the messenger.
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    The PrumeisterThe Prumeister Posts: 22,398
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    If he really had stitched up the Hamiltons it wouldn't have been an insignificant amount. A woman came to him saying she had been raped, he told her to go to the police. What was he supposed to do?

    I'm sure he used his power for his own ends. But don't forget there were plenty of idiots he exposed who bear a grudge. They should blame themselves not the messenger.




    I guess he *could* have not paid them shedloads of money to spew their lies in the tabloids whilst in the process - but hey ho.
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    fredsterfredster Posts: 31,802
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    soundcheck wrote: »
    Well evidence also helps, but becomes increasingly difficult to obtain the longer it is between the alleged offence and the trial.

    That said, I was listening to the radio this evening (R4, I think, but I wasn't paying attention) where someone was opining that the jury was probably convinced by the prosecution because the victims were not only convincing and coherent, even under cross-examination, but also because the pattern of each assault was similar - not the same (which might have been a bit suspicious), but revealing a common modus operandi.

    Of course, it probably didn't help Clifford's case that he tried to portray himself in court as a moral, upright and decent bloke, while at the same time his biography reveals that he used to play a game with his mates to see which of them could get a random woman in the street to come into the office and have sex.

    I also heard David Mellor on PM on the way home from work, trying very hard (and only partially succeeding) not to be overwhelmed with smugness. Can't say I blame him. I've never been a particular fan of Mellor, but what Clifford did to him was vile.

    I'm glad he was found guilty, and I hope that the sentence he receives reflects the enormity of his offences. Nasty man.

    Apparently, his sentence will be what was the sentence would have been at the time the offences occurred. According to the daily telegraph.
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