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outspoken atheist makes light of recent paedophile cases

imrightokimrightok Posts: 8,492
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Why doesn't this surprise me? Just because he may have enjoyed it,doesn't mean that everyone else does.






http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/3895514/
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    dee123dee123 Posts: 46,271
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    This thread will be a mess.
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    Keiō LineKeiō Line Posts: 12,979
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    imrightok wrote: »
    Why doesn't this surprise me? Just because he may have enjoyed it,doesn't mean that everyone else does.

    Some bits I agree with and some I don't,

    Where does Dawkins say he enjoyed it and everyone else did?
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    dosanjh1dosanjh1 Posts: 8,727
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    Dawkins outrageous remarks to plug soon to be released book shocker.
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    dellydelly Posts: 10,189
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    Richard Dawkins said something like this in The God Delusion. To be fair I don't recall him saying he enoyed it, but he was dismissive of it.

    We know how many Atheists have read that book on here; so this will come as no surprise to them. When I brought this up a few years ago, they didn't appear to think the comments that bad.
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    GlowbotGlowbot Posts: 14,847
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    He wasn't speaking as an atheist, just as a victim.
    I don't agree but then I'm not a victim.
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    Heston VestonHeston Veston Posts: 6,495
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    It is interesting that an atheist is forgiving of being a victim of practices which are endemic in religious institutions, and he is the one that then gets criticism for it.
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    Neil5234Neil5234 Posts: 1,515
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    People get outraged to quickly without reading the whole story.
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    dee123dee123 Posts: 46,271
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    Neil5234 wrote: »
    People get outraged to quickly without reading the whole story.

    ^^^^ Should be placed right under the Digital Spy logo.
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    Deep PurpleDeep Purple Posts: 63,255
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    Why is he referred to as one of the worlds best known atheists? I've never heard of him, but I'm sure many of the famous people I have heard of are atheists.

    Does he make a career out of being such a common thing?
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    imrightokimrightok Posts: 8,492
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    Keiō Line wrote: »
    Some bits I agree with and some I don't,

    Where does Dawkins say he enjoyed it and everyone else did?

    may1
    vb past might (takes an infinitive without to or an implied infinitive used as an auxiliary)
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    kippehkippeh Posts: 6,655
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    Deep Purple wrote: »
    Why is he referred to as one of the worlds best known atheists? I've never heard of him, but I'm sure many of the famous people I have heard of are atheists.

    Does he make a career out of being such a common thing?

    You could say he makes a career out of it considering the books, articles, commentary and other addresses he gives on the subject.
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    tellywatcher73tellywatcher73 Posts: 4,181
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    From what I can gather, he is talking about his own experience and comparing it to what he sees as higher levels of abuse experienced by others. To be fair, he shouldn't assume the level he experienced wouldn't have long term effects on anybody, just because he cant speak for everyone. Other than that, I see no need for outrage.
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    grantus_maxgrantus_max Posts: 2,744
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    imrightok wrote: »
    Why doesn't this surprise me? Just because he may have enjoyed it,doesn't mean that everyone else does.


    http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/3895514/

    Nope - it doesn't say any of what you just said. Why doesn't *that* surprise me? :cool:
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    grantus_maxgrantus_max Posts: 2,744
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    imrightok wrote: »
    may1
    vb past might (takes an infinitive without to or an implied infinitive used as an auxiliary)

    An implication is still an implication whether or not the word 'may' is involved.

    I bet you nearly came in your pants when you saw something Dawkins said you could misrepresent on here...
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    Bedlam_maidBedlam_maid Posts: 5,922
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    I respect Richard Dawkins and I believe he has a right to express his opinion. In some ways he is correct imo. The cane and the slipper were not regarded as child abuse in days gone by although measured against today's standards they clearly are. Using children for sexual gratification has always been morally wrong though, at least by the standards of this country.
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    imrightokimrightok Posts: 8,492
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    Deep Purple wrote: »
    Why is he referred to as one of the worlds best known atheists? I've never heard of him, but I'm sure many of the famous people I have heard of are atheists.

    Does he make a career out of being such a common thing?

    Possibly because he is the world's best known atheist.
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    turquoiseblueturquoiseblue Posts: 2,431
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    I don't think it's anything to do with him being an atheist. You could just as easily say any of the following:

    Man makes light.......

    72 year old makes light......

    Public school educated man makes light.......

    Author makes light........

    Biologist makes light........

    Oxford graduate makes light........

    etc., sorry what was the OP's point?
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    Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    What's the relevance of being an atheist? Do paedophiles only target children who don't have religious beliefs?
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    imrightokimrightok Posts: 8,492
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    turquoiseblue wrote: »
    I don't think it's anything to do with him being an atheist. You could just as easily say any of the following:

    Man makes light.......

    72 year old makes light......

    Public school educated man makes light.......

    Author makes light........

    Biologist makes light........

    Oxford graduate makes light........

    etc., sorry what was the OP's point?

    Thanks for giving me the choice..... guess what ? I made my own choice........ Now what's your point?
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    grantus_maxgrantus_max Posts: 2,744
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    turquoiseblue wrote: »
    sorry what was the OP's point?

    He doesn't like Richard Dawkins much.
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    Ethel_FredEthel_Fred Posts: 34,127
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    imrightok wrote: »
    Thanks for giving me the choice..... guess what ? I made my own choice........ Now what's your point?
    WHY did you make that choice - you could have also said "Richard Dawkins..."
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    turquoiseblueturquoiseblue Posts: 2,431
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    imrightok wrote: »
    Thanks for giving me the choice..... guess what ? I made my own choice........ Now what's your point?

    My point is that your point is meaningless as you've simply linked one thing to another in your own mind. There's nothing to suggest you have a point.
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    imrightokimrightok Posts: 8,492
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    Ethel_Fred wrote: »
    WHY did you make that choice - you could have also said "Richard Dawkins..."

    The story is there for all to read. Dawkins is an atheist...... what's the problem?
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    imrightokimrightok Posts: 8,492
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    turquoiseblue wrote: »
    My point is that your point is meaningless as you've simply linked one thing to another in your own mind. There's nothing to suggest you have a point.

    Not my point? I didn't write the article.
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    grantus_maxgrantus_max Posts: 2,744
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    imrightok wrote: »
    Not my point? I didn't write the article.

    Judging by your OP, you didn't read it either.
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