Lord Coe to be new BBC Trust boss?

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According to Boris Johnson..http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2641781/Olympic-legend-Sebastian-Coe-lined-new-BBC-Trust-chairman-Boris-Johnson-lets-slip-fantastic-news.html

Could be a very good choice. Though a bizarre echo of the W1A satire, Olympic boss joins BBC. Let's hope he finds somewhere to keep his bike and has a more competent intern...
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  • TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    The problem remains in that the Trust is both regulator and assessor.

    It's like a teacher marking their pupils A-Level exams.

    You could bring Jesus Christ himself into the role and it would be dubious.
  • henderohendero Posts: 11,773
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    zz9 wrote: »
    According to Boris Johnson..http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2641781/Olympic-legend-Sebastian-Coe-lined-new-BBC-Trust-chairman-Boris-Johnson-lets-slip-fantastic-news.html

    Could be a very good choice. Though a bizarre echo of the W1A satire, Olympic boss joins BBC. Let's hope he finds somewhere to keep his bike and has a more competent intern...

    I thought he was in line for the head of the IAAF next year, which seems a role far better suited to his expertise. And appointing a former Tory MP and Lord to head up the BBC Trust didn't exactly turn out so well last time. Sounds dubious.
  • mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,307
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    And is an endorsement from Cameron and BoJo really that encouraging?
  • Peter the GreatPeter the Great Posts: 14,228
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    mossy2103 wrote: »
    And is an endorsement from Cameron and BoJo really that encouraging?
    And of course it proves yet again the liberal left wing bias at the BBC...Oh but wait...
  • Steve9214Steve9214 Posts: 8,404
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    And of course it proves yet again the liberal left wing bias at the BBC...Oh but wait...

    Nick Griffin is available now he is longer an MEP !!!

    (Lights blue touchpaper and runs away)
  • Object ZObject Z Posts: 1,871
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    Coe? FFS...We need do not need any more Tories in the place.
  • GrannyGruntbuckGrannyGruntbuck Posts: 3,638
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    Hmmm, can we trust him?

    Didn't he spend oodles of money taking out a super injunction to stop his wife finding out that he was bonking someone else?

    Have I remembered incorrectly?
  • henderohendero Posts: 11,773
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    Hmmm, can we trust him?

    Didn't he spend oodles of money taking out a super injunction to stop his wife finding out that he was bonking someone else?

    Have I remembered incorrectly?

    Sounds like your memory is spot on.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1463242/Coe-affair-claims-will-not-affect-Olympic-bid-leadership.html

    I'd forgotten about that. In fairness the Olympics turned out about as well as could be hoped. How much of that is down to Coe is debatable, but he did head up the bid process and the games were a resounding success. Whether that makes him qualified for the BBC Trust gig is another matter.
  • KNs47KNs47 Posts: 426
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    I've nothing against Lord Coe, but I'd rather it wasn't another Tory!
  • mlt11mlt11 Posts: 21,087
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    Per Media Guardian:

    "BBC Trust chair hours reduced leading to claims that it encourages Coe"

    "Advert for £110,000-a-year role amended to attract candidates who cannot give three to four days a week"

    Interview panel:
    Jeremy Heywood (Cabinet Secretary)
    Carolyn Fairbairn (Former BBC Executive)
    Lord Kakkar (Professor of Surgery at UCL)

    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jun/26/bbc-trust-chair-hours-reduced-lord-coe
  • carl.waringcarl.waring Posts: 35,684
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    And of course it proves yet again the liberal left wing bias at the BBC...Oh but wait...
    Indeed.

    http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-06-25/peston-is-right-left-wing-bias-at-the-bbc-is-a-myth
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,181
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    And who pays BBC economics editor Robert Pestons wages?
    :o
  • mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,307
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    ecckles wrote: »
    And who pays BBC economics editor Robert Pestons wages?
    And if anyone should know the political leanings of the BBC (and those of its staff), it's someone who actually works there, rather than someone who is a self-appointed armchair specialist who has never set foot inside the BBC (no offence intended)
  • human naturehuman nature Posts: 13,314
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    Tassium wrote: »
    The problem remains in that the Trust is both regulator and assessor.

    It's like a teacher marking their pupils A-Level exams.

    You could bring Jesus Christ himself into the role and it would be dubious.
    Why so suspicious? The BBC Trust has the task of setting the standards and objectives for the BBC and then regularly assesses whether they're achieving the targets they've set. If you want to compare it to a teacher, then it's like a teacher setting his class regular tests and then marking their scores to see how well they're doing.

    It's no different to how Ofcom regulates the commercial channels, except the BBC Trust is supposed to be independent of the Government.
  • TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    Why so suspicious? The BBC Trust has the task of setting the standards and objectives for the BBC and then regularly assesses whether they're achieving the targets they've set. If you want to compare it to a teacher, then it's like a teacher setting his class regular tests and then marking their scores to see how well they're doing.

    It's no different to how Ofcom regulates the commercial channels, except the BBC Trust is supposed to be independent of the Government.

    When a teacher is using tests in that way that's for their own personal interest. No outside force is interested in such tests, so no conflict of interest in the teacher marking them himself.

    But A-Levels are of outside interest.
    A-Levels actually assess the teacher and the school to some degree. So you cannot have a teacher marking his own teaching with A-Levels.


    In the case of the BBC Trust. If the BBC is not doing well then attention inevitably turns to the regulator and were they not doing their job well? Just as teachers tend to get blamed if exam results are down.

    So we need a BBC Board of Governance to regulate the BBC, and also an "exam body" that does NOT regulate but merely marks the work of the BBC. Call that the BBC Trust if you want. But they shouldn't regulate the BBC.
  • human naturehuman nature Posts: 13,314
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    Tassium wrote: »
    In the case of the BBC Trust. If the BBC is not doing well then attention inevitably turns to the regulator and were they not doing their job well? Just as teachers tend to get blamed if exam results are down.

    So we need a BBC Board of Governance to regulate the BBC, and also an "exam body" that does NOT regulate but merely marks the work of the BBC. Call that the BBC Trust if you want. But they shouldn't regulate the BBC.
    That's already in place. The BBC Trust is answerable to the DCMS who regularly hold Select Committees to assess whether or not they're doing their job as a regulator well.
  • henderohendero Posts: 11,773
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    Seb Coe apparently ruling himself out of the running for the head of the BBC Trust:

    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jul/29/sebastian-coe-ruling-out-run-for-bbc-trust-chairmanship-report

    The IAAF top job seems a more obvious fit when it becomes available next year.
  • carl.waringcarl.waring Posts: 35,684
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    Makes more sense :)
  • zz9zz9 Posts: 10,767
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    Hmmm... With both Coe and Marjorie Scardino, both eminently qualified for the job, pulling themselves out of the running my paranoid mind thinks that behind the scenes the government may be planning something drastic, like scrapping the licence fee or privatising the BBC ( It is understood that the recruitment process has, unusually, seen the chancellor heavily involved. Osborne is understood to have focused the shortlist on candidates with strong City and big company experience. ), and neither want to be associated with what would be a huge disaster and vastly unpopular.

    The rumoured 'front runner' now is Nick Prettejohn, a "former advisor to George Osbourne"

    Coe I thought would have been excellent.
  • yorksdaveyorksdave Posts: 3,228
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    zz9 wrote: »
    Hmmm... With both Coe and Marjorie Scardino, both eminently qualified for the job, pulling themselves out of the running my paranoid mind thinks that behind the scenes the government may be planning something drastic, like scrapping the licence fee or privatising the BBC ......
    The rumoured 'front runner' now is Nick Prettejohn, a "former advisor to George Osbourne"

    Coe I thought would have been excellent.

    I dont think even the tories would try and privatise the bbc, Channel Four would be a much easier target, and I doubt a total scrapping of the license fee is on the cards, I could see the tories introducing a light license fee covering BBC1, BBC2, BBC News, BBC Parliament and BBC Radio, with other BBC services including iplayer only available on payment of an additional subscription.

    As for Lord Coe, its great to see the tory gerrymandering that was underway has not been successful.
  • henderohendero Posts: 11,773
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    yorksdave wrote: »
    I dont think even the tories would try and privatise the bbc, Channel Four would be a much easier target, and I doubt a total scrapping of the license fee is on the cards, I could see the tories introducing a light license fee covering BBC1, BBC2, BBC News, BBC Parliament and BBC Radio, with other BBC services including iplayer only available on payment of an additional subscription.

    As for Lord Coe, its great to see the tory gerrymandering that was underway has not been successful.

    If the Tories win the election the next BBC charter renewal might be very interesting. I don't see it as out of the question they might say something like, "OK BBC, you get another seven more years with the TVL, after that it needs to be done differently, get back to us in a couple of years with your proposals", or something like that. It seems the TV landscape has changed so much, and will continue to change, that the current model is increasingly outdated.

    Coe dropping out of the running seems a further indication he thinks he has a good shot at the IAAF job. He couldn't have done both due to the conflict of interest (real or apparent) of heading up a sports organisation whose major championships would be the subject of future BBC rights bids.
  • zz9zz9 Posts: 10,767
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    hendero wrote: »
    If the Tories win the election the next BBC charter renewal might be very interesting. I don't see it as out of the question they might say something like, "OK BBC, you get another seven more years with the TVL, after that it needs to be done differently, get back to us in a couple of years with your proposals", or something like that. It seems the TV landscape has changed so much, and will continue to change, that the current model is increasingly outdated.

    Coe dropping out of the running seems a further indication he thinks he has a good shot at the IAAF job. He couldn't have done both due to the conflict of interest (real or apparent) of heading up a sports organisation whose major championships would be the subject of future BBC rights bids.

    The "outdated" aspect has been dealt with by both Ireland and Germany recently by just making their TV licence a mandatory payment for every household and business, which also removes the need for inspectors, detector vans etc. If included with council tax then it could also be a variable fee in line with house value, again addressing a complaint against the TV licence. But still something that could be a political hot potato that some people might wish to avoid. After all the poll tax on paper was quite a sensible, logical and fair idea...

    As for Coe dropping out it make me think of the Wilde quote. Too lose one high profile applicant may be regarded as a misfortune. To lose two...
  • jonmorrisjonmorris Posts: 21,758
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    I'm fine with the fee being compulsory. Even if I choose not to watch, plenty of other people do and it's good for society to have more than just commercial TV.
  • tony le mesmertony le mesmer Posts: 876
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    I think the best idea does seem to be to lump it in with council tax. That way it would cover the iPlayer too, plus it gets rid of the awful TV Licensing agency.
  • The PhazerThe Phazer Posts: 8,487
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    I imagine losing the candidates is for a very simple reason - the job is exceptionally badly paid for the amount of shit you have to put up with, compared to anything any qualified candidate could do with their time instead.
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