The thing about lying about your age is that it depends where you take the years off and how they fall in a lifetime.
For Sinitta, she's probably about 50 and she claims to be 40 something I think? That's not something you can visibly notice really.
Likewise, an 80 year old who claims to be 74 is not going to be questioned about it - who could tell?
But imagine if you're 16 and you're claiming to be 10. That would just be ridiculous.
And so we come to Katie, and claiming you're 19 when you're 25, as someone who is 25 myself, is almost as crazy IMO. There's a world of difference between those two ages in terms of maturity, lifestyle and experience. She wouldn't have been believed for very long.
Isnt the whole point of acting tho to take on a character who is completely different to yourself tho? To play young and older characters, scary characters and comedy characters and in some cases characters of the opposite sex? If Katie managed to successfully act 14 in her auditions which she obviously did then it says alot about her acting ability.
Katie Redford is the only person responsible for her losing her job before she even got the chance to start filming. DS members might've been better at using Google than Coronation Street bosses and her agent may have told her to lie about her age but she didn't have to go along with the lie, she chose to. I've got no sympathy for her at all.
It isn't the DS posters fault,, she shouldn't have lied about her age.Don't feel sorry for her but hope she gets another role in Corrie somehow as she's obviously good.
The point is she lied to get a job. Any employer would likely sack you for this if they found out most application forms have disclaimers regarding this.
bit harsh i think it was prob her agent who said to do it. its just like "yes i can ride a horse" it did say Beffnee would look older than 14 and the Katie don't look 26. its not as bad as who ever cast Beth's mum n gran what was that about!!! hope she didn't spend all money she would get.
Isnt the whole point of acting tho to take on a character who is completely different to yourself tho? To play young and older characters, scary characters and comedy characters and in some cases characters of the opposite sex? If Katie managed to successfully act 14 in her auditions which she obviously did then it says alot about her acting ability.
It's a good attribute in acting, but in real life it's a very deceptive trait and a little bit unsettling to be honest.
A 25 year old cannot pass for a 19 year old (and vice versa). I'm 25 and so are many of my friends, and all of us are basically unrecognisable from 6 years ago. It's one of the big transitional periods of life and so much changes and grows in your life during those years.
This is why it's very deceptive to try and convince someone you're 19 when you're 25 as you're essentially posing as an entirely different person.
I agree to a certain extent, snooping into someone's Facebook and posting links is wrong but the acting profiles are fine as they are open to view.
"Acting profiles are fine as they are open to view"
but...
"Snooping into someone's Facebook and posting links is wrong"
I think you'll find that these people have published their Facebook profiles globally and they are very much "open to view". By your own logic, that makes it "fine".
If people are stupid enough to publish masses of personal data on a medium which is, bar a few countries, accessible globally, more fool them!
Can I ask how has the actress lying about her age effected you to the point where you feel she should be sacked? I am not asking what she did wrong, why did you feel so negatively that you wanted her sacked?
Yes she shouldn't have lied even if it was her agent who started It. She willingly went along with it and has to take some responsibility for this mess but corrie should never have let it get this far. If they'd have done proper checks then it would of been sorted a lot sooner.
It's a good attribute in acting, but in real life it's a very deceptive trait and a little bit unsettling to be honest.
A 25 year old cannot pass for a 19 year old (and vice versa). I'm 25 and so are many of my friends, and all of us are basically unrecognisable from 6 years ago. It's one of the big transitional periods of life and so much changes and grows in your life during those years.
This is why it's very deceptive to try and convince someone you're 19 when you're 25 as you're essentially posing as an entirely different person.
Well thats not true as Tina o Brien herself was in Waterloo Road just a couple of years ago playing a schoolgirl and was about 29 at the time and she pulled it off quite well. Similarly Roxanne Pallett also appeared in Waterloo road playing a schoolgirl and was a bout 28/29 at the time and also pulled it off well. Theres no reason why Katie cudnt of done the same and the producers obviously thought she cud as she successfully passed the audition.
Well thats not true as Tina o Brien herself was in Waterloo Road just a couple of years ago playing a schoolgirl and was about 29 at the time and she pulled it off quite well. Similarly Roxanne Pallett also appeared in Waterloo road playing a schoolgirl and was a bout 28/29 at the time and also pulled it off well. Theres no reason why Katie cudnt of done the same and the producers obviously thought she cud as she successfully passed the audition.
I will agree to firmly disagree with you on those examples.
I will agree to firmly disagree with you on those examples.
I bet you do mate lol. Lets face it, when we realised she was much older than was being claimed we was all intrigued as to how she wud of looked in Bethanys school uniform
I would't worry to much about Katie......I would think the publicity she has received these last few days will have done her more good than harm.....I think we will be hearing a lot more of Katie in the future.
All the reports coming out about her sacking she say lied to them.
If ITV knew her real age then Katie will have a case for unfair dismissal. So I would say ITV are telling the truth. The issue at their end is why didn't they check her out fully before hiring her. This could have been a stalker or anything who could have put cast safety at risk. She has proven how easy it was to deceive them. Full background checks would be run in such a situation one would assume.
I find it bizarre that ITV didn't know.
Even if her agent handles a lot of the legalities, Corrie must surely require the presentation of a document proving ID. The security there is very lapse if that isn't the case.
you would still have to prove your identity and right to work in the uk.
She would have to prove this to her employer. That is, herself. To gain the self employed status, she would have to apply to HMRC, who have the responsibility to ensure that she is entitled to such status.
If she presents proof of that status from HMRC to ITV, ITV have no need to seek further proof.
corrie should have seen her passport or driving licence etc and should know her age.
As she is self employed, if she presented HMRC documentation of her status they have no reason to see passport or driving licence, which are two documents that you have no absolute legal requirement to have.
You only require a driving licence if you wish to drive on a public road or in a public place.
And you only require a passport if you wish to travel beyond the borders of the United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland, and the Crown Dependencies of Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man.
If you don't do either of these things, you have no requirement for such documents and therefore cannot and do not have to provide them. Most certainly, possession of such documents is not a requirement to work in the UK.
For some reason and I have no idea why ITV is listing her age 19 on publicity and all reference to her real age seems to have been wiped from the internet. I had noticed her old tag on twitter and email begins with Katieredford89 so I did some snooping and have found evidence that she was in fact born on 2nd March 1989.
The above link is a cached version of her CV from a website and this infact confirms her true date of birth.
Why is ITV trying to cover this up like MI6?
She is 25 nearly 26 but will be playing a 14 year old.
Why did you feel the need to "go snooping"? If a number after a username/email signifies a person's age then can we assume you are a 2 year old? (mind you based on some of your threads......:D)
I really can't see ITV/Corrie being so innocent in all of this. If Katie was going to lie about her age she would have deleted all the proof suggesting she is 25 long before she was hired. Deleting it all on the day she was cast is a pretty stupid move really.
I just think its a PR stunt, right at the time of the bus crash,
might just get people watching etc
Can't see it. Corrie have come out of this very badly. They've apparently hired someone without doing any background checks which is not only unprofessional and incompetent but is also very irresponsible considering the high-profile nature of the Corrie cast. As has been pointed out by others, for all Corrie knew Katie could have been a porn star, a suspected terrorist or may not even have been the real Katie! Without doing some sort of background check how can Corrie expect to be sure she's the real deal?
And if that isn't the case then they've knowingly deceived viewers and they've done it in a really patronising, nonchalant way considering how easy it was for the posters here to uncover the truth. Either way it's terrible for them.
Then you have some posters who don't like the fact that Katie's been sacked and others who believe this is an act of ageism or scapegoating.
It's really a very regrettable incident for Corrie and I am certain they did NOT want this.
Lets be clear, the was comments on the first press releases on all the news sites, it would come out, in fact it already had when this thread was made, the comments on other news sites aren't all DS forum members.
Many 1000's would have gone on twitter to check her out, and to follow her.
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How could they not check her social Medea it would not have been good if she was a well known, nude cam girl!
Would she not need a CBR check to work along side children?
Lets be clear, the was comments on the first press releases on all the news sites, it would come out, in fact it already had when this thread was made, the comments on other news sites aren't all DS forum members.
Many 1000's would have gone on twitter to check her out, and to follow her.
One person joined the forum just to post on this thread that they went to school with her and was 25 - it's absolutely farcical to think that DS have taken this woman down as the truth was staring us in the face!
Regardless of whether or not DS broke the story it would have broken out elsewhere! It was all over the internet! If anything it's better that this happened before they filmed anything!
In this type of situation I feel ITV and Corrie are entirely at fault as they should have know beforehand and done a full background check. I very much feel like they knew all along but they're too embarrassed/scared to admit to it. They've thrown the poor girl under a bus.
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Isnt the whole point of acting tho to take on a character who is completely different to yourself tho? To play young and older characters, scary characters and comedy characters and in some cases characters of the opposite sex? If Katie managed to successfully act 14 in her auditions which she obviously did then it says alot about her acting ability.
It's a good attribute in acting, but in real life it's a very deceptive trait and a little bit unsettling to be honest.
A 25 year old cannot pass for a 19 year old (and vice versa). I'm 25 and so are many of my friends, and all of us are basically unrecognisable from 6 years ago. It's one of the big transitional periods of life and so much changes and grows in your life during those years.
This is why it's very deceptive to try and convince someone you're 19 when you're 25 as you're essentially posing as an entirely different person.
"Acting profiles are fine as they are open to view"
but...
"Snooping into someone's Facebook and posting links is wrong"
I think you'll find that these people have published their Facebook profiles globally and they are very much "open to view". By your own logic, that makes it "fine".
If people are stupid enough to publish masses of personal data on a medium which is, bar a few countries, accessible globally, more fool them!
Well thats not true as Tina o Brien herself was in Waterloo Road just a couple of years ago playing a schoolgirl and was about 29 at the time and she pulled it off quite well. Similarly Roxanne Pallett also appeared in Waterloo road playing a schoolgirl and was a bout 28/29 at the time and also pulled it off well. Theres no reason why Katie cudnt of done the same and the producers obviously thought she cud as she successfully passed the audition.
I will agree to firmly disagree with you on those examples.
How on earth was she hired without proving who she is? Like someone said earlier in this thread she could've been a stalker or anyone.
I bet you do mate lol. Lets face it, when we realised she was much older than was being claimed we was all intrigued as to how she wud of looked in Bethanys school uniform
Even if her agent handles a lot of the legalities, Corrie must surely require the presentation of a document proving ID. The security there is very lapse if that isn't the case.
She would have to prove this to her employer. That is, herself. To gain the self employed status, she would have to apply to HMRC, who have the responsibility to ensure that she is entitled to such status.
If she presents proof of that status from HMRC to ITV, ITV have no need to seek further proof.
As she is self employed, if she presented HMRC documentation of her status they have no reason to see passport or driving licence, which are two documents that you have no absolute legal requirement to have.
You only require a driving licence if you wish to drive on a public road or in a public place.
And you only require a passport if you wish to travel beyond the borders of the United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland, and the Crown Dependencies of Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man.
If you don't do either of these things, you have no requirement for such documents and therefore cannot and do not have to provide them. Most certainly, possession of such documents is not a requirement to work in the UK.
Why did you feel the need to "go snooping"? If a number after a username/email signifies a person's age then can we assume you are a 2 year old? (mind you based on some of your threads......:D)
It's only telly at the end of the day.
Only catching up on the latest on this story.
Speechless.
might just get people watching etc
Can't see it. Corrie have come out of this very badly. They've apparently hired someone without doing any background checks which is not only unprofessional and incompetent but is also very irresponsible considering the high-profile nature of the Corrie cast. As has been pointed out by others, for all Corrie knew Katie could have been a porn star, a suspected terrorist or may not even have been the real Katie! Without doing some sort of background check how can Corrie expect to be sure she's the real deal?
And if that isn't the case then they've knowingly deceived viewers and they've done it in a really patronising, nonchalant way considering how easy it was for the posters here to uncover the truth. Either way it's terrible for them.
Then you have some posters who don't like the fact that Katie's been sacked and others who believe this is an act of ageism or scapegoating.
It's really a very regrettable incident for Corrie and I am certain they did NOT want this.
Many 1000's would have gone on twitter to check her out, and to follow her.
......... EDIT ................
How could they not check her social Medea it would not have been good if she was a well known, nude cam girl!
Would she not need a CBR check to work along side children?
One person joined the forum just to post on this thread that they went to school with her and was 25 - it's absolutely farcical to think that DS have taken this woman down as the truth was staring us in the face!
You mean just 48 hours before the NTA's??
Oh, did I just say that out loud;-)
What do they say, no such thing as bad publicity.
In this type of situation I feel ITV and Corrie are entirely at fault as they should have know beforehand and done a full background check. I very much feel like they knew all along but they're too embarrassed/scared to admit to it. They've thrown the poor girl under a bus.