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Why Wont There Be Riot Over The Immigration Cap??

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    jmclaughjmclaugh Posts: 63,997
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    ricky77 wrote: »
    Some sort of controlled immigration is required. Unfortunately, given the lack of intelligence of most UK, Daily Mail-reading folk these days, they don't seem to understand that.

    Well they can be forgiven to an extent bearing in mind the last government spent 13 years deliberately not understanding it while building their multi-cultural society.
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    gocompletelynutgocompletelynut Posts: 2,314
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    Metalman is Gnobe reincarnated since his ban, remember him? :rolleyes:
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    andallthatjazzandallthatjazz Posts: 6,413
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    More to the point why weren't there any riots during the Blair & Brown govt?

    If only the whole country stood up to these criminals when they were "in charge" then I doubt very much we would have been in such a state of despair economically & socially.
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    deptfordbakerdeptfordbaker Posts: 22,368
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    MetalMan wrote: »
    Why wont there be riot over the proposed immigration cap like the tuition fees today?

    Because the vast majority of sensible people in this country, realise that the country is full up.

    We don't need any more immigrants, they serve no purpose. If we need cheap labour we already get that from the EU.

    It's obvious why they want to come here, but not why we need them.
    MetalMan wrote: »
    I personally hate this anti-multiculturist attitude the right wingers have in this country. If we could have thousands of people marching up and down the country over this I think we could really benefit.
    !

    I am the total opposite, I personally hate multiculturalism. It's the stupidest and worse policy governments have ever had.

    I would march against multiculturalism!
    MetalMan wrote: »
    Multiculturism is our greatest strength and many young people do not like this old outgrown attitude of 'stopping' other people from living here who wish to. I think we need to change this policy and maybe ease the attempted restrictions that this government is trying to do. Multurculturism will dry up otherwise!

    I think we should ban foreign marriage spouses coming here, unless both their parents were born here.

    Stop all students, unless they have a place at reputable colleges and university.

    Impose yearly quotas on asylum seekers, putting the overspill in to detention centres, where they would be free to leave the country at any time, or wait until the next year to apply.

    Educate more people in skills we need instead of importing them.

    Immigration has been way too much and way too fast. It's time to lock down immigration, so that those immigrants already here, can be properly integrated.

    Even immigrants interviewed at random didn't want any more immigrants, FFS.

    Finally ban all translations by law, and require fluent English of at least O'level standard and a really tough British culture and history exam, before letting anyone in.
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    late8late8 Posts: 7,175
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    Well as the Germans said this year Multiculturalism doesn't work- and you know It doesn't. All you get is divided ghettos.
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    PoliticoRNPoliticoRN Posts: 5,519
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    Because the vast majority of sensible people in this country, realise that the country is full up.

    We don't need any more immigrants, they serve no purpose. If we need cheap labour we already get that from the EU.

    It's obvious why they want to come here, but not why we need them.



    I am the total opposite, I personally hate multiculturalism. It's the stupidest and worse policy governments have ever had.

    I would march against multiculturalism!



    I think we should ban foreign marriage spouses coming here, unless both their parents were born here.

    Stop all students, unless they have a place at reputable colleges and university.

    Impose yearly quotas on asylum seekers, putting the overspill in to detention centres, where they would be free to leave the country at any time, or wait until the next year to apply.

    Educate more people in skills we need instead of importing them.

    Immigration has been way too much and way too fast. It's time to lock down immigration, so that those immigrants already here, can be properly integrated.

    Even immigrants interviewed at random didn't want any more immigrants, FFS.

    Finally ban all translations by law, and require fluent English of at least O'level standard and a really tough British culture and history exam, before letting anyone in.

    We have that already, it has questions about where to get state benefits, what benefits immigrants are entitled to, and what percentage of ethnic mixing makes the correct multicultural society.

    There was a major news story on it a week or so ago.

    Some Australian journalist (Aus by birth but lived here for 2 decades or more) sat it and failed because she hadn't done the "benefits/entitlement/ethnicity" research; she'd - rather foolishly it seems - swotted up on British history, the role of Britain on the international stage etc.

    Labour has a bloody lot to answer for; 2 decades in the political wilderness is exactly what they deserve - although I doubt they'll get it.
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    deptfordbakerdeptfordbaker Posts: 22,368
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    Like it or not, Britain becoming majority non-white would be a much bigger change than anything that happended herre since 1707....

    I don't think race is the issue, but if white people were flooding in to Africa for example, at such a rate that black people would be in the minority by 2050, I think they might say, hey hold on we feel a bit uncomfortable about this,, why can't all races be equal in the world.

    Even though race is irrelevant to who some one basically is, its fair to say that nobody wants to feel they are in decline or becoming a minority in the world.

    As immigration is all one way, this may happen eventually to Caucasians in Britain and the world. Their was an article in the Sunday Times a few weeks back, so I'm not making it up. Most people don't want to make an issue of race, but it might give people an uneasy feeling to know, every one who looks like them, will one day be a footnote in history.

    Immigrants may be a minority, but they are not alone racially in the world.

    The bad news in the UK is this will happen if we carry on as we are, but the good news is it will not happen if the Tories drastically reduce immigration.

    I would like the world to have equal amounts of each race, lots of religions and Multiculturalism on a world scale, in the form of countries.

    In the UK multi races, multi religions but one culture and tradition and identity, is desirable.

    Until Mr Mugabe and other African leaders start encouraging white people to migrate to their countries and become citizens, I feel Caucasians should stay the majority in the UK, so the world remains diverse.
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    deptfordbakerdeptfordbaker Posts: 22,368
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    PoliticoRN wrote: »
    Labour has a bloody lot to answer for; 2 decades in the political wilderness is exactly what they deserve - although I doubt they'll get it.

    Your not wrong there. There responsible for people continuing the immigration cycle and deliberately avoiding integrating, via foreign marriage. They changed the law.

    Even the new Tory minister said he had been to a citizenship ceremony and it was a joke. He said half of them struggled with a few words of English.
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    Eve3275Eve3275 Posts: 1,720
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    MetalMan wrote: »
    Why wont there be riot over the proposed immigration cap like the tuition fees today?

    I personally hate this anti-multiculturist attitude the right wingers have in this country. If we could have thousands of people marching up and down the country over this I think we could really benefit.

    Multiculturism is our greatest strength and many young people do not like this old outgrown attitude of 'stopping' other people from living here who wish to. I think we need to change this policy and maybe ease the attempted restrictions that this government is trying to do. Multurculturism will dry up otherwise!

    The UK today is multicultral and that's a fact regardless, but pursuing multicultralism as a policy was just stupid. The real irony is that it's ended up creating a lot of hostility towards immigrants and immigration - even though i think that's unfair because immigrants didn't create multicultralism. They were simply encouraged to live here as if they were back home - and they did. Still, I think a shift towards integration would go a long way towards easing tensions over the issue.
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    gemma-the-huskygemma-the-husky Posts: 18,116
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    just wait till the olympics!
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    academiaacademia Posts: 18,225
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    MetalMan wrote: »
    Why wont there be riot over the proposed immigration cap like the tuition fees today?

    I personally hate this anti-multiculturist attitude the right wingers have in this country. If we could have thousands of people marching up and down the country over this I think we could really benefit.

    Multiculturism is our greatest strength and many young people do not like this old outgrown attitude of 'stopping' other people from living here who wish to. I think we need to change this policy and maybe ease the attempted restrictions that this government is trying to do. Multurculturism will dry up otherwise!

    There will be no riot because most people are in favour of the cap.
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    ricky77ricky77 Posts: 1,510
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    We don't need any more immigrants, they serve no purpose. If we need cheap labour we already get that from the EU.

    It's obvious why they want to come here, but not why we need them.

    We do need some immigrants (revenue generators for companies, IT specialists, doctors, etc)...just the right type.

    Unfortunately, take a walk down any London street, and it's pretty obvious we are filling up with the wrong type.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 5,186
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    ricky77 wrote: »
    We do need some immigrants (revenue generators for companies, IT specialists, doctors, etc)...just the right type.

    Unfortunately, take a walk down any London street, and it's pretty obvious we are filling up with the wrong type.

    I've never been able to tell who's an IT specialist walking down any street. Let alone who's an immigrant and not an IT specialist/"revenue generator".
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    guypdguypd Posts: 2,643
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    MetalMan wrote: »
    Why wont there be riot over the proposed immigration cap like the tuition fees today?

    Because while many oppose the tuition fees increase, the vast majority of the country is worried about, and opposed to, immigration.
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    Andy2Andy2 Posts: 11,949
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    "Why Wont There Be Riot Over The Immigration Cap??"

    Maybe because most people agree with it. I don't like this multi-culturalism, it is in danger of causing massive schisms and ghettoisation of society. People see immigrants pouring into our towns and cities and wonder where the housing is coming from, where all the extra electricity, gas and water will be found. Jobs are at a premium.
    So no riots, upsetting as it might be to the OP.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 39
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    Multi cultural britain will remain exactly that regardless of the imigration caps.

    Why do people pass through most European countries to came to the UK? Because no other country is as tolerant to their plight, Unfortunately we cannot any longer afford this to continue. .
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    The problem is the debate itself as most people think "muliculturism" = multi-races when it doesn't. The US for example have mulitraces but don't have mulitculturism to the extent we do.

    Or as the Xenophobe's Guide to the Americans (IIRC) has it, everyone is a hyphenated-American. ;)
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    paulschapmanpaulschapman Posts: 35,536
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    ricky77 wrote: »
    We do need some immigrants (revenue generators for companies, IT specialists, doctors, etc)...just the right type.

    Unfortunately, take a walk down any London street, and it's pretty obvious we are filling up with the wrong type.

    With nearly 1 in 5 Computing graduates out of work a year from graduating and a proportion of the other 4 not working in IT we don't need them in IT either.

    The so called Skills shortage in IT is nothing more than a myth peddled by the Big Consultancies to increase the head count - and hence the fee charged to clients.

    What we need to do is go back to a system of training people. Removing the opportunities to get experience and training is not going to improve the skills base of the country.
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    MetalManMetalMan Posts: 939
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    Tommo54 wrote: »
    Multi cultural britain will remain exactly that regardless of the imigration caps.

    Why do people pass through most European countries to came to the UK? Because no other country is as tolerant to their plight, Unfortunately we cannot any longer afford this to continue. .

    As far as I'm aware France and Germany have as many immigrants as we do. In fact Germany and France have a higher foreign born population than us.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,481
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    Because there needs to be a cap on immgration. In economic terms immigration has done more harm than good.

    Because multiculturalism has been enforced on the British public and most immigrants make little effort to integrate.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,853
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    Like it or not, Britain becoming majority non-white would be a much bigger change than anything that happended herre since 1707....

    Yes because having more people in this country with a different colour skin tone is a much much bigger change than the Industrial Revolution. The same way having a lot more people with blue eyes would be a bigger change than the fall of the British Empire.
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    FrankieHowerdFrankieHowerd Posts: 818
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    MetalMan wrote: »
    As far as I'm aware France and Germany have as many immigrants as we do. In fact Germany and France have a higher foreign born population than us.

    Germany and France are larger than Britain.
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    MetalManMetalMan Posts: 939
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    snoopy10 wrote: »
    Yes because having more people in this country with a different colour skin tone is a much much bigger change than the Industrial Revolution. The same way having a lot more people with blue eyes would be a bigger change than the fall of the British Empire.

    Agreed. Britain, along with France Germany etc will become non-white one day so people better used to it. That's partly due to white people not being arsed to have children anymore but if that's the case that's there problem. America will be and nobody cares, so why can't we?
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    MetalManMetalMan Posts: 939
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    Germany and France are larger than Britain.

    So? Holland's smaller and they have loads of immigration. Their foreign born population is over 10% as well.
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    PoliticoRNPoliticoRN Posts: 5,519
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    I wonder how many self-haters like MetalMan would be applauding a trend that would see the breeding out of existence of black or asian people if such a trend existed?

    My guess is none of them; but its OK to almost celebrate the breeding out of existence of white people.

    Apparently its the people who are opposed to multiculturalism who are the racists, right?
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