Bjork definitely has a lot of really original and creative songs. She is my favourite solo act by miles. I love it because she is very diverse but still not weird enough to be "avant guard".
Radiohead also have their fair share of really interesting and different song, but again staying listenable and not weird.
Definitely. Although some of her stuff is slightly weaker, on the whole she is very progressive and unique. She takes influences from all over the place and puts them in her music.
More specifically, here are some songs I think are very creative:
- Bjork - Pluto
- Yeasayer - Ambling Alp
- Massive Attack - Group 7
- Siobhan Donaghy - Ghosts
- Klaxons - Atlantis To Interzone
- Skunk Anansie - Hedonism
- MGMT - Kids
- CSS - Alala
- Radiohead - Idioteque
- Sigur Rós - Saeglopur
- Goldfrapp - Utopia
- Maxim and Skin -Carmen Queasy (:D!)
- N*E*R*D - Lapdance
- Peaches - F**k The Pain Away
- Grace Jones - Corporate Cannibal
- M.I.A. - XR2
- The Prodigy - Breathe
- Bat For Lashes - I Saw A Light
- Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Zerp
- Patrick Wolf - Magic Position
Any many more... mainly by most of the acts I mentioned. In fact, that'd be an ideal playlist for me I think being creative doesn't necessarily mean being 100% original, but there needs to be some kind of progression there. I hate things which have been done to death and usually only stay loyal to acts who move on and don't make the same album 5 times.
No I'm the last person to be ironic about that - I'm a huge pop music fan not all pop music, but the good stuff anyway. Your posts are really interesting by the way
Only took to the post #8 for Biology to be rolled out:rolleyes:
Just coz is it shite doesn't mean it is creative. It is absolutely a holy mess of a song..and this is coming from someone who generally likes GA music.
Only took to the post #8 for Biology to be rolled out:rolleyes:
Just coz is it shite doesn't mean it is creative. It is absolutely a holy mess of a song..and this is coming from someone who generally likes GA music.
Okay, can people keep the negativity out of this thread? Creativity is a subjective thing and it's everyone's right to disagree but it wouldn't hurt to be less inflammatory about it.
It's indivual taste. I'm entitled to my opinion...why does every single sodding thread always have to attract someone who just wants to be negative? Also, don't forget that people of different ages will all have different feelings on what's creative and what isn't, so there's that to think about before dismissing somebody's opinions.
negative or subjective? it depends upon whether you are just asking for a meaningless 'love in' or whether you want something more factual.
people say its all subjective and down to personal opinion, but is it really? i mean, some artists DID create original creative sounds. recuring examples are kate bush, david bowie, beatles, all of which did produce creative music. its the old confusion between opinion and fact...
people say its all subjective and down to personal opinion, but is it really? i mean, some artists DID create original creative sounds. recuring examples are kate bush, david bowie, beatles, all of which did produce creative music. its the old confusion between opinion and fact...
I guess it's subjective to a certain extent. People judge quality according to what they understand defines the term. I think many people have a fairly limited spectrum of experience (whether it's music or film or art etc.) and therefore judge quality against the best of what they understand is high quality. For those of us who have had a broader experience (and how many of us have listened to Mathertron's list of music with irregular time signatures?) then what constitutes creativity may be completely different.
I think by definition pop music is seldom creative inasmuch as it is rarely ground-breaking or experimental or avant-garde or sophisticated. That's not its purpose; it's purpose is to entertain the masses and it does so very well by largely sticking to a winning formula. There are exceptions, of course - e.g. "I Feel Love" by Donna Summer ushered in a completely new era of pop music.
And I'm not just singling out pop because of its unsophisticated mass appeal - a lot of rock and indie music is very formulaic but at least on the fringes you do find a great deal of creativity. It's just that it seldom reaches a mass audience because radio stations etc. don't see it as commercial or appealing to a wider audience.
It offends by brain to see people mentioning anything by Britney or Lady Gaga in a thread about the most creative songs ever.
The one person that sticks out to me is Bjork. She always manages to use some very avante garde methods in a fairly mainstream way - Medúlla is probably the exception, being her most 'out there' release to date. Shes consistently innovating and treats her music like fine art, and thats how music SHOULD be. People like Gaga and Britney essentially have their music delivered on a silver platter. Whats the fun in that?
Bjork definitely has a lot of really original and creative songs. She is my favourite solo act by miles. I love it because she is very diverse but still not weird enough to be "avant guard".
Radiohead also have their fair share of really interesting and different song, but again staying listenable and not weird.
Although I cannot stand Girls Aloud, I have some weird fondness for this song. It's quite odd for a girl band in my opinion.
Definitely. Although some of her stuff is slightly weaker, on the whole she is very progressive and unique. She takes influences from all over the place and puts them in her music.
More specifically, here are some songs I think are very creative:
- Bjork - Pluto
- Yeasayer - Ambling Alp
- Massive Attack - Group 7
- Siobhan Donaghy - Ghosts
- Klaxons - Atlantis To Interzone
- Skunk Anansie - Hedonism
- MGMT - Kids
- CSS - Alala
- Radiohead - Idioteque
- Sigur Rós - Saeglopur
- Goldfrapp - Utopia
- Maxim and Skin -Carmen Queasy (:D!)
- N*E*R*D - Lapdance
- Peaches - F**k The Pain Away
- Grace Jones - Corporate Cannibal
- M.I.A. - XR2
- The Prodigy - Breathe
- Bat For Lashes - I Saw A Light
- Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Zerp
- Patrick Wolf - Magic Position
Any many more... mainly by most of the acts I mentioned. In fact, that'd be an ideal playlist for me I think being creative doesn't necessarily mean being 100% original, but there needs to be some kind of progression there. I hate things which have been done to death and usually only stay loyal to acts who move on and don't make the same album 5 times.
You and I were seperated at birth! You have wonderful taste.
Only took to the post #8 for Biology to be rolled out:rolleyes:
Just coz is it shite doesn't mean it is creative. It is absolutely a holy mess of a song..and this is coming from someone who generally likes GA music.
Oh hello Mr. All-Knowing music expert :rolleyes: Just because you don't like the song doesn't mean it is shite. Most pop fans, critics included, love the song for it's creativity, catchyness, and all-round brilliance. But hey, what do we know? If you say it's bad then it must be.
Oh hello Mr. All-Knowing music expert :rolleyes: Just because you don't like the song doesn't mean it is shite. Most pop fans, critics included, love the song for it's creativity, catchyness, and all-round brilliance. But hey, what do we know? If you say it's bad then it must be.
I think that really only applies within the GA/gay guy bubble. Im a lover of pop in all its forms and agree that its absolutely awful. Certainly not worthy of being anywhere near the likes of Bjork, The Knife, Kate Bush, Bowie etc.
Its a quirky throwaway pop song by a vastly over-rated 'band'.
I think that really only applies within the GA/gay guy bubble. Im a lover of pop in all its forms and agree that its absolutely awful. Certainly not worthy of being anywhere near the likes of Bjork, The Knife, Kate Bush, Bowie etc.
Its a quirky throwaway pop song by a vastly over-rated 'band'.
How are they 'overrated'? People just use that term when they dislike an artist who happens to be popular with critics. Also, Girls Aloud are a pop band, so why compare them to other artists who are nothing like them? I think it's just snobbery by people who think they aren't 'credible' just because they are a manufactured pop group, ignoring the actual music.
I'm not saying everyone should love Biology, but if GA happened to write and produce their own songs, the 'real music' lovers would love them. Yet if someone dared to criticise any of the 'credible' artists such as the ones you mentioned, we'd probably get shouted down as an idiot who knows nothing about music.
Oh and big thumbs-up for stereotyping GA fans. Well done you.
Oh hello Mr. All-Knowing music expert :rolleyes: Just because you don't like the song doesn't mean it is shite. Most pop fans, critics included, love the song for it's creativity, catchyness, and all-round brilliance. But hey, what do we know? If you say it's bad then it must be.
Tons of ABBA's stuff from SOS onwards is genuine musical genius, technically intricate and advanced, and sounding ahead of its time compared with what else was in the charts. There's too many to list but some of their more complex/creative singles include SOS, Dancing Queen, Name Of The Game, and Take A Chance On Me. All brilliant pop songs.
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and Kate's "This Woman's Work" is a certain classic.
Stay by Shakespears Sister still resonates and sends shivers down my spine. As does their ""Hello,hello, turn the radio on"
I'd agree there, in fact Japan's whole output is hard to beat
The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
The Cure - The Caterpillar (well I think so:o)
Bjork definitely has a lot of really original and creative songs. She is my favourite solo act by miles. I love it because she is very diverse but still not weird enough to be "avant guard".
Radiohead also have their fair share of really interesting and different song, but again staying listenable and not weird.
Although I cannot stand Girls Aloud, I have some weird fondness for this song. It's quite odd for a girl band in my opinion.
Definitely. Although some of her stuff is slightly weaker, on the whole she is very progressive and unique. She takes influences from all over the place and puts them in her music.
More specifically, here are some songs I think are very creative:
- Bjork - Pluto
- Yeasayer - Ambling Alp
- Massive Attack - Group 7
- Siobhan Donaghy - Ghosts
- Klaxons - Atlantis To Interzone
- Skunk Anansie - Hedonism
- MGMT - Kids
- CSS - Alala
- Radiohead - Idioteque
- Sigur Rós - Saeglopur
- Goldfrapp - Utopia
- Maxim and Skin -Carmen Queasy (:D!)
- N*E*R*D - Lapdance
- Peaches - F**k The Pain Away
- Grace Jones - Corporate Cannibal
- M.I.A. - XR2
- The Prodigy - Breathe
- Bat For Lashes - I Saw A Light
- Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Zerp
- Patrick Wolf - Magic Position
Any many more... mainly by most of the acts I mentioned. In fact, that'd be an ideal playlist for me
I love that song, it really is haunting. Puts a chill down my back whenever I listen to it.
That is a good album, I think the title track was used on the Windows XP commercials too!
Thanks a lot!
Queens most known song, Bohemian Rhapsody, is very creative in my opinion. It's an awesome song... more like 3 song is one.
Focus - Hocus Pocus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFDW9b_ejfI&feature=fvst
Only took to the post #8 for Biology to be rolled out:rolleyes:
Just coz is it shite doesn't mean it is creative. It is absolutely a holy mess of a song..and this is coming from someone who generally likes GA music.
Okay, can people keep the negativity out of this thread? Creativity is a subjective thing and it's everyone's right to disagree but it wouldn't hurt to be less inflammatory about it.
Just saying.
indeed a great original track, however i certainly wouldnt refer to the charts from 82 as 'a sea of cack', there were some great tracks.
negative or subjective? it depends upon whether you are just asking for a meaningless 'love in' or whether you want something more factual.
people say its all subjective and down to personal opinion, but is it really? i mean, some artists DID create original creative sounds. recuring examples are kate bush, david bowie, beatles, all of which did produce creative music. its the old confusion between opinion and fact...
I guess it's subjective to a certain extent. People judge quality according to what they understand defines the term. I think many people have a fairly limited spectrum of experience (whether it's music or film or art etc.) and therefore judge quality against the best of what they understand is high quality. For those of us who have had a broader experience (and how many of us have listened to Mathertron's list of music with irregular time signatures?) then what constitutes creativity may be completely different.
I think by definition pop music is seldom creative inasmuch as it is rarely ground-breaking or experimental or avant-garde or sophisticated. That's not its purpose; it's purpose is to entertain the masses and it does so very well by largely sticking to a winning formula. There are exceptions, of course - e.g. "I Feel Love" by Donna Summer ushered in a completely new era of pop music.
And I'm not just singling out pop because of its unsophisticated mass appeal - a lot of rock and indie music is very formulaic but at least on the fringes you do find a great deal of creativity. It's just that it seldom reaches a mass audience because radio stations etc. don't see it as commercial or appealing to a wider audience.
The one person that sticks out to me is Bjork. She always manages to use some very avante garde methods in a fairly mainstream way - Medúlla is probably the exception, being her most 'out there' release to date. Shes consistently innovating and treats her music like fine art, and thats how music SHOULD be. People like Gaga and Britney essentially have their music delivered on a silver platter. Whats the fun in that?
You and I were seperated at birth! You have wonderful taste.
Four part harmony, need I say more?
Oh hello Mr. All-Knowing music expert :rolleyes: Just because you don't like the song doesn't mean it is shite. Most pop fans, critics included, love the song for it's creativity, catchyness, and all-round brilliance. But hey, what do we know? If you say it's bad then it must be.
I think that really only applies within the GA/gay guy bubble. Im a lover of pop in all its forms and agree that its absolutely awful. Certainly not worthy of being anywhere near the likes of Bjork, The Knife, Kate Bush, Bowie etc.
Its a quirky throwaway pop song by a vastly over-rated 'band'.
How are they 'overrated'? People just use that term when they dislike an artist who happens to be popular with critics. Also, Girls Aloud are a pop band, so why compare them to other artists who are nothing like them? I think it's just snobbery by people who think they aren't 'credible' just because they are a manufactured pop group, ignoring the actual music.
I'm not saying everyone should love Biology, but if GA happened to write and produce their own songs, the 'real music' lovers would love them. Yet if someone dared to criticise any of the 'credible' artists such as the ones you mentioned, we'd probably get shouted down as an idiot who knows nothing about music.
Oh and big thumbs-up for stereotyping GA fans. Well done you.
I agree with Kutox.
Most def. Prophet's Song is worthy of the same praise as well although it is often overlooked being from the same album as BR