Why not? I didn't wont to see other people's reactions, Lucy wasn't their daughter, sister, step-daughter. I am glad they made the episode just be about the Beale's (minus Lauren and Dot).
Those reactions will come. It's the same old, same old. I prefer it this way.
While it is true Cindy only moved to the Square recently the twins went to Devon and lived either with Cindy or around Cindy for at least a year but i believe it was more (if someone can confirm time frames?) between the departures of Melissa Suffield and Thomas Law as Lucy and Peter and between the arrivals of Hetti Bywater and Ben Hardy. I believe Hetti appeared quite significantly before Ben did but at one point or another both have been around Cindy for significant amounts of time that Cindy would know information about both of them that Ian may well not.
Lucy left Summer 2010 and Peter Autumn 2010. Lucy returned in January 2012 for Pat's funeral and stayed because she thought Mandy was a gold digger out to con Ian. Peter and Cindy both returned in summer 2013. Cindy basically following him to Walford.
Well I don't blame Ian, I understand he was grieving and probably wasn't thinking straight. Though I wish she was leaving, she's a thief, blackmails her siblings and is rude, I still haven't felt sympathy for her.
Do you think Lucy didn't like Cindy and do you think Peter doesn't like Cindy
Why not? I didn't wont to see other people's reactions, Lucy wasn't their daughter, sister, step-daughter. I am glad they made the episode just be about the Beale's (minus Lauren and Dot).
I liked the concept of the episode being so contained focusing on the Beale's grief. But then like I said the introduction of the suspicious whodunit aspect in the episode tarnished it for me. I'd rather see Sharon or the Butcher's initial reaction rather than 'you lied, you weren't at the restaurant..', Ian's Freudian slip to the coppers or him kicking Cindy out at the end. It seemed at least part of the purpose of the cliffhanger was to make it appear he wants her out of the way to protect whatever secret he's hiding.
I liked the concept of the episode being so contained focusing on the Beale's grief. But then like I said the introduction of the suspicious whodunit aspect in the episode tarnished it for me. I'd rather see Sharon or the Butcher's initial reaction rather than 'you lied, you weren't at the restaurant..', Ian's Freudian slip to the coppers or him kicking Cindy out at the end. It seemed at least part of the purpose of the cliffhanger was to make it appear he wants her out of the way to protect whatever secret he's hiding.
As she is being driven away tomorrow Ian chases after her and decides she can stay.
I can remember the outrage! lol It was all over the papers and the news. Bit like how the Baby swap was. The BBC issued an on air apology
All I remember from the episodes is the drunk dad, a donkey in the street = rofl and Mark cutting his hand and stopping Mary from touching the blood.
Other than that its all a blur. Just as well I guess
I hope one day they start showing old eps again or release DVDs I am now intrigued into what these episodes were like and do I remember them (sometimes I remember things but only when visually reminded of them - but like now remembering hearing Ruth talk about Maggie only from the reminder of Ruth's voice saying it)
I'm on my phone so can't multi quote but seen a couple of posts I wish to refer to
One where someone said they were dissapointed it was a Beale only episode as they would have liked to have seen more of the residents reacting to the initial news
I agree with wanting to see that from other residents but think today's episode could have been purely Beale related and the police people with no dot or Lauren and tomorrow could have shown us the rest of the square hearing the news and reaction as tonight's episode was intensely good
I also wish to thank hit em up style for confirming time frames if when Lucy and Peter lived in Devon with Cindy I was sure it was more than a year but wasn't entirely sure on specifics
One thing I would like to say is that Lucy's murder has totally detracted from the pool tournament. I was really enjoying it and Terry and Alfie really didn't get the credit they perhaps deserved. Does anyone else think that this was rather shortsighted of the writers ?
Cindy is a bit of a cuckoo in the nest, none of them really know her, she is no connection to Ian at all other than she is half sister to two of his children, Bobby, Denise and Jane have only just met her and Peter and Lucy barely acknowledged her existence, and despite this she seems determined to cling on,
One thing I would like to say is that Lucy's murder has totally detracted from the pool tournament. I was really enjoying it and Terry and Alfie really didn't get the credit they perhaps deserved. Does anyone else think that this was rather shortsighted of the writers ?
Gotta agree with that Mo. With this Lucy stuff it goes on until like, next year, whilst the pool tournament is a once in a blue moon event. It seems a bit disingenuous to not give it proper coverage.
Hi all - just watching the ep now but it didn't record the first bit - did we see dot and other people be told the news or does everyone just know now?
Hi all - just watching the ep now but it didn't record the first bit - did we see dot and other people be told the news or does everyone just know now?
They just know. We only saw Dot & Lauren outside of the Beale lot.
The first 3minutes were silent but quite powerfull. EastEnders started a few minutes too early which is probs why you've missed it.
That is hardly the point. She is a pregnant minor under the Ian's care whether he likes it or not. Ian shouldn't have done what he did.
It is the point. Done what? Left her on the doorstep because he was upset?
Oh dear what a life threatening experience for her to be stood outside for 2 minutes. Whatever will she do?
People are acting as though he's beat her or made her homeless. No, he's shoved her out the back gate in a moment of anger and called a family member to come and get her.
No doubt Denise or Jane go out to her at the start of tomorrow's episode and take her away to the restaurant or something to calm down.
They just know. We only saw Dot & Lauren outside of the Beale lot.
The first 3minutes were silent but quite powerfull. EastEnders started a few minutes too early which is probs why you've missed it.
Ah ok thanks dan. Would of liked to of seen the whole pub told carrying on from when Peter was but these last few episodes have been outstanding
Not read the whole thread but as emotional as it is currently watching it I can't help but laugh at how orange Lauren is and how white peter is!
Would of liked to of seen the shocked reactions at the pub - literally everyone knows Lucy and would of been nice to see Phil and kats etc reaction to it
Edit - just because I think Phil would be actually genuinely shocked and upset not his usual not arsed reactions!
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Those reactions will come. It's the same old, same old. I prefer it this way.
Lucy left Summer 2010 and Peter Autumn 2010. Lucy returned in January 2012 for Pat's funeral and stayed because she thought Mandy was a gold digger out to con Ian. Peter and Cindy both returned in summer 2013. Cindy basically following him to Walford.
Do you think Lucy didn't like Cindy and do you think Peter doesn't like Cindy
He rang Gina, Cindy Srs sister who raised Cindy Jr.
I liked the concept of the episode being so contained focusing on the Beale's grief. But then like I said the introduction of the suspicious whodunit aspect in the episode tarnished it for me. I'd rather see Sharon or the Butcher's initial reaction rather than 'you lied, you weren't at the restaurant..', Ian's Freudian slip to the coppers or him kicking Cindy out at the end. It seemed at least part of the purpose of the cliffhanger was to make it appear he wants her out of the way to protect whatever secret he's hiding.
Everything has changed. Those first silent minutes were very poignant.
Ian's outburst at Dot and her 'They should be saying goodbye to me'
Peter was very fierce in objecting to Lucy's room being searched.
You and your big mouth, Cindy!
Peter's 'So it was quick?'
I also don't get why Lucy was killed - why someone would kill her, Jane.
Red Herring Peter wanting to run away, like father like son rubbed off on him in the end?
You'd been drifitng apart for years, Peter. It's no wonder your instincts weren't as honed.
Ouch. That was cold, Ian.
Cindy's Gran's a-coming...
I hope one day they start showing old eps again or release DVDs I am now intrigued into what these episodes were like and do I remember them (sometimes I remember things but only when visually reminded of them - but like now remembering hearing Ruth talk about Maggie only from the reminder of Ruth's voice saying it)
One where someone said they were dissapointed it was a Beale only episode as they would have liked to have seen more of the residents reacting to the initial news
I agree with wanting to see that from other residents but think today's episode could have been purely Beale related and the police people with no dot or Lauren and tomorrow could have shown us the rest of the square hearing the news and reaction as tonight's episode was intensely good
I also wish to thank hit em up style for confirming time frames if when Lucy and Peter lived in Devon with Cindy I was sure it was more than a year but wasn't entirely sure on specifics
Preview of tomorrows episode
Not even sub-titles:(
Are you suggesting a change of character for Dorothy ?
mikebuck told her not to. In any case they all all heathens.
He's hoping to play for Chelsea.
She's nothing to do with him.
Not his daughter
A very good summary
That's all very well but where was the humour
I was hoping that someone would break wind.
Agreed. He needs to get a grip.
Lucy doesn't like anyone now
Gotta agree with that Mo. With this Lucy stuff it goes on until like, next year, whilst the pool tournament is a once in a blue moon event. It seems a bit disingenuous to not give it proper coverage.
That is hardly the point. She is a pregnant minor under the Ian's care whether he likes it or not. Ian shouldn't have done what he did.
The first 3minutes were silent but quite powerfull. EastEnders started a few minutes too early which is probs why you've missed it.
It is the point. Done what? Left her on the doorstep because he was upset?
Oh dear what a life threatening experience for her to be stood outside for 2 minutes. Whatever will she do?
People are acting as though he's beat her or made her homeless. No, he's shoved her out the back gate in a moment of anger and called a family member to come and get her.
No doubt Denise or Jane go out to her at the start of tomorrow's episode and take her away to the restaurant or something to calm down.
Ah ok thanks dan. Would of liked to of seen the whole pub told carrying on from when Peter was but these last few episodes have been outstanding
It always makes me cringe when they fall into that cliche.
We will see the Square's reaction tomorrow and into next week.
And yes then have
Would of liked to of seen the shocked reactions at the pub - literally everyone knows Lucy and would of been nice to see Phil and kats etc reaction to it
Edit - just because I think Phil would be actually genuinely shocked and upset not his usual not arsed reactions!