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Cameron No Greens no Debates for me.
Well that's that done and over.
Options are.
1, they allow the greens SNP will take legal action (as would plaid)
2. they leave his space empty
3. the debates are called off
What really irks me about this back in 2010 the pressure on Brown was immense from Sky and the BBC. that doesn't seem there this time I wasn't a fan of the format for one reason we are not electing a president yet with it all focused on one person that's the impression you got.
Sorry nothing will ever beat the good old battle busses
Options are.
1, they allow the greens SNP will take legal action (as would plaid)
2. they leave his space empty
3. the debates are called off
What really irks me about this back in 2010 the pressure on Brown was immense from Sky and the BBC. that doesn't seem there this time I wasn't a fan of the format for one reason we are not electing a president yet with it all focused on one person that's the impression you got.
Sorry nothing will ever beat the good old battle busses
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Cameron is doing this for political purposes but I don't blame him. He would be attacked from the left by Lab and the Lib Dems and attacked from the right by UKIP. He would be in the middle trying to fend off attacks from two flanks, not an easy task for anyone.
With the Greens in and maybe some other parties it would be more difficult to let it become a tory bashing exercise.
Far better for there to be debates in town halls up and down the country where normal people can come along and ask questions of local representatives, and get a response that has not been prepared in advance.
He is nothing but a spineless coward.
Absolutely this. Local debates are much better at getting the issues that matter to people discussed than TV 'let's quote the sounbites' debates..
No, IMO he is sensible when it comes to this. The TV debates are little more than who can shout the loudest while saying the least.
Do you have a link?
If the broadcasters do include the Greens what excuse will he use to get out of the debates then?
I laugh at the fact all the lefties are attacking Cameron. The LibLabCon don't want people to hear the truth. Labour don't want UKIP there as they will further expose them. Miliband will be secretly relieved he has a scape goat now.
It's all about stopping UKIP taking the big stage. Farage would wipe the floor with them.
But hey lets have a Ed vs Nigel debate then Labour??
Thought not..........Ed Milibawk returns.
Really, the whole Green thing is the thinnest of thin pretexts to scupper the whole thing. If the Green's are included what will be the next excuse? Sorry, the cameras aren't freetrade, the bottled water isn't sustainable, the light bulbs aren't eco-friendly? ;-)
I understand people's concern about the debates but like it or not the position of PM is extremely important - they are the key person for setting the political agenda of any government. If a party's manifesto is a cook book then the PM is the chef.
Maybe we could agree on having a leaders debate just between Cameron and Miliband and then have a series of'party' debate where each party nominates a spokesman to put forward their argument on a certain topic. That would seem to me to be a reasonable solution.
Too much potential for political gamesmanship with parties ganging up on a particular one and also whoever shouts the loudest at the right time tends to get the most from it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30726499
How is it fair that UKIP get a platform to build up their support and not the Greens?
I wasn't aware of the pressure from the broadcasters on Brown to have a debate. I thought he was open to it himself, seeing as he was doing so badly at the time, he must've thought it was the last throw of the dice, nothing to lose.
Anyway, I think this is a wise decision from Cameron. He has absolutely nothing to gain from another round of debates. He's doing alright in the opinion polls at the moment of leaders. He certainly doesn't want to give a platform to Miliband or Farage. I honestly don't think the debates will happen at all now. It makes no sense to simply have the debates between the other parties and 'leave the space empty' for Cameron. Think about it, why would Miliband give the other left of centre parties a chance to split his Labour vote? He's gunning for Cameron, and if he's not there, its all rather pointless.
The debate should only be between the main parties namely UKIP, Labour and The Conservatives.
Only the Greens and the BNP have any sort of honor to their cause, and I wouldnt want one of them anywhere near power, and the other I dont think would have a full grasp on what to do. Thats the shitty state we find ourselves, in my opinion.
The Greens and SNP are not extremists, both have MPs and several per cent in the polls. The SNP even runs a government. In the latest polls the Greens get more votes than the Lib Dems, and the SNP gets about half the vote in Scotland.
The BNP is a has been party of racists and thugs and it's support has drifted to UKIP. They have been destroyed at the ballot box and should retire to live under some rock at the bottom of a cess pit where they belong.
Both UKIP and the Greens have MP's. It's a general election so BNP don't qualify.
and since hes the one people want to see, they wont happen
only Farage and salmon and the aussie will push for them as they will give them a platform (I agree with nick!)
Cameron isnt a fool and wont take the bait, just stick to pushing the Economy
millipeade will stick to NHS clegg taxing the rich
The BBC explanation seems much more likely. That he is saying privately that he wants Miliband to contend with "people to their left" during the first debate.
In other words, 'I will defend Cameron no matter what he ever does'.
Oh, that rare thing - we agree. ;-)