This happened in the Austrian city of Linz. There was Voest Linz, and LASK Linz, then Voest got into serious financial trouble, LASK took them over but the merger virtually wiped out all evidence of Voest. They weren't small clubs in the country either, both had been champions since 1960 at one time or another.
Anyway, Voest fans got fed up about being asked to support essentially LASK, so formed an early phoenix club with the old colours, and named it Blau-Weiss Linz. They can't officially use the Voest name, as LASK own it, but they do hang Voest banners at games and their nickname is 'Voestler'!
Ironically, Blau-Weiss are now in a higher division than LASK (2nd to 3rd tier) but are likely to go down this season.
It does prove that trying to amalgamate clubs is a waste of time, as the set of fans that feels it has lost out more will just go off and form a phoenix club anyway, which will get back nearly all of the old support.
This happened in the Austrian city of Linz. There was Voest Linz, and LASK Linz, then Voest got into serious financial trouble, LASK took them over but the merger virtually wiped out all evidence of Voest. They weren't small clubs in the country either, both had been champions since 1960 at one time or another.
Anyway, Voest fans got fed up about being asked to support essentially LASK, so formed an early phoenix club with the old colours, and named it Blau-Weiss Linz. They can't officially use the Voest name, as LASK own it, but they do hang Voest banners at games and their nickname is 'Voestler'!
Ironically, Blau-Weiss are now in a higher division than LASK (2nd to 3rd tier) but are likely to go down this season.
It does prove that trying to amalgamate clubs is a waste of time, as the set of fans that feels it has lost out more will just go off and form a phoenix club anyway, which will get back nearly all of the old support.
This is true. There would be riots, if they tried to merge Bristol City, and Rovers.
Yours is from 2001, mine is from 2004 and a study into the actual urban zone.
I live in the area and can tell you Nottingham's population is nowhere near that. Even the 666,000 figure includes places in Derbyshire like Long Eaton and Ilkeston which wouldn't consider themselves part of Nottingham.
Though in all seriousness, I wouldn't want to be the one who volunteers to tell Boca Juniors and River Plate fans that they should consider merging.
There are about two dozen Buenos Aires clubs in the top two divisions alone. Each one is attached to a particular 'barrio' or borough, so there's is so much local pride at stake, you couldn't get any of them to merge.
Imagine if every borough in London had its own club in the top 2 divisions. :eek:
There are about two dozen Buenos Aires clubs in the top two divisions alone. Each one is attached to a particular 'barrio' or borough, so there's is so much local pride at stake, you couldn't get any of them to merge.
Imagine if every borough in London had its own club in the top 2 divisions. :eek:
"Good evening, and welcome to MOTD. Tonight we start with the heated local derby between Hounslow and Westminister......."
I live in the area and can tell you Nottingham's population is nowhere near that. Even the 666,000 figure includes places in Derbyshire like Long Eaton and Ilkeston which wouldn't consider themselves part of Nottingham.
On Ilkeston I can understand even though there are crap loads of forest fans there, long eaton though you are having a laugh.
Besides that's what it is according to how it's worked out, just like other cities that are worked in the same way.
Anybody who think you can simply take 2 clubs from the same city and merge them is either a troll or has no understanding whatsoever about football and supporting a club
Never the less it's not in the City of Nottingham:)
For all intents and purposes, they are. They were in Nottingham when they were founded. If someone altered the boundaries to exclude Anfield, it wouldn't make Liverpool less Liverpudlian.
For all intents and purposes, they are. They were in Nottingham when they were founded. If someone altered the boundaries to exclude Anfield, it wouldn't make Liverpool less Liverpudlian.
A boundary through Stanley Park:eek::eek:
I like to be accurate. They should be called West Bridgford Forrest.:p
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Anyway, Voest fans got fed up about being asked to support essentially LASK, so formed an early phoenix club with the old colours, and named it Blau-Weiss Linz. They can't officially use the Voest name, as LASK own it, but they do hang Voest banners at games and their nickname is 'Voestler'!
Ironically, Blau-Weiss are now in a higher division than LASK (2nd to 3rd tier) but are likely to go down this season.
It does prove that trying to amalgamate clubs is a waste of time, as the set of fans that feels it has lost out more will just go off and form a phoenix club anyway, which will get back nearly all of the old support.
Only due to boundary changes in the 1950's. West Brigford is a de facto suburb of Nottingham proper.
This is true. There would be riots, if they tried to merge Bristol City, and Rovers.
I live in the area and can tell you Nottingham's population is nowhere near that. Even the 666,000 figure includes places in Derbyshire like Long Eaton and Ilkeston which wouldn't consider themselves part of Nottingham.
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Though in all seriousness, I wouldn't want to be the one who volunteers to tell Boca Juniors and River Plate fans that they should consider merging.
There are about two dozen Buenos Aires clubs in the top two divisions alone. Each one is attached to a particular 'barrio' or borough, so there's is so much local pride at stake, you couldn't get any of them to merge.
Imagine if every borough in London had its own club in the top 2 divisions. :eek:
"Good evening, and welcome to MOTD. Tonight we start with the heated local derby between Hounslow and Westminister......."
On Ilkeston I can understand even though there are crap loads of forest fans there, long eaton though you are having a laugh.
Besides that's what it is according to how it's worked out, just like other cities that are worked in the same way.
Absolutely! It virtually is like that!
On this map covering the 2011 season, 13 out of 20 top division clubs are in the Greater Buenos Aires area. :eek:
Then another dozen in the second division.
Yep, that's better
lol
Yes, I think that they were going to be called 'Thames Valley Royals'. Fat thief, Robert Maxwell, was behind it.
Never the less it's not in the City of Nottingham:)
For all intents and purposes, they are. They were in Nottingham when they were founded. If someone altered the boundaries to exclude Anfield, it wouldn't make Liverpool less Liverpudlian.
A boundary through Stanley Park:eek::eek:
I like to be accurate. They should be called West Bridgford Forrest.:p
Why would they add a second "r" to their name?
In any case Forest could simply argue that "Nottingham" in their name refers to heritage and origin.
Sheffield, Dundee and Bristol
Having larger common stadiums would also be helpful for any future England EURO bids (I presume the FA have given up on the World Cup)
Bristol City are building a new, bigger stadium, and the trigger for that was the World Cup bid. I'd add Liverpool to the ground-sharing list.
If both clubs want a massive new stadium, it would make sense
They were named after the Forest Recreation Ground
One "r"
It would appear that years ago, somebody spelled it wrong:o
Everything you have said about Forest has been correct. I sometimes tend to be pedantic:(
Nah we will do up Ashton Gate