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Cities that would be better with one football team?

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,734
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    This happened in the Austrian city of Linz. There was Voest Linz, and LASK Linz, then Voest got into serious financial trouble, LASK took them over but the merger virtually wiped out all evidence of Voest. They weren't small clubs in the country either, both had been champions since 1960 at one time or another.

    Anyway, Voest fans got fed up about being asked to support essentially LASK, so formed an early phoenix club with the old colours, and named it Blau-Weiss Linz. They can't officially use the Voest name, as LASK own it, but they do hang Voest banners at games and their nickname is 'Voestler'!

    Ironically, Blau-Weiss are now in a higher division than LASK (2nd to 3rd tier) but are likely to go down this season.

    It does prove that trying to amalgamate clubs is a waste of time, as the set of fans that feels it has lost out more will just go off and form a phoenix club anyway, which will get back nearly all of the old support.
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    Big Boy BarryBig Boy Barry Posts: 35,391
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    Nottingham Forrest is not in Nottingham

    Only due to boundary changes in the 1950's. West Brigford is a de facto suburb of Nottingham proper.
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    Jim De VilleJim De Ville Posts: 16,122
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    This happened in the Austrian city of Linz. There was Voest Linz, and LASK Linz, then Voest got into serious financial trouble, LASK took them over but the merger virtually wiped out all evidence of Voest. They weren't small clubs in the country either, both had been champions since 1960 at one time or another.

    Anyway, Voest fans got fed up about being asked to support essentially LASK, so formed an early phoenix club with the old colours, and named it Blau-Weiss Linz. They can't officially use the Voest name, as LASK own it, but they do hang Voest banners at games and their nickname is 'Voestler'!

    Ironically, Blau-Weiss are now in a higher division than LASK (2nd to 3rd tier) but are likely to go down this season.

    It does prove that trying to amalgamate clubs is a waste of time, as the set of fans that feels it has lost out more will just go off and form a phoenix club anyway, which will get back nearly all of the old support.

    This is true. There would be riots, if they tried to merge Bristol City, and Rovers.
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    BMRBMR Posts: 4,351
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    the chimp wrote: »
    Yours is from 2001, mine is from 2004 and a study into the actual urban zone.

    I live in the area and can tell you Nottingham's population is nowhere near that. Even the 666,000 figure includes places in Derbyshire like Long Eaton and Ilkeston which wouldn't consider themselves part of Nottingham.
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    Big Boy BarryBig Boy Barry Posts: 35,391
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    Arsespur

    Heart of Hiberian

    Fulsea

    Everpool

    Manchester Actually United



    Though in all seriousness, I wouldn't want to be the one who volunteers to tell Boca Juniors and River Plate fans that they should consider merging.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,734
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    Though in all seriousness, I wouldn't want to be the one who volunteers to tell Boca Juniors and River Plate fans that they should consider merging.

    There are about two dozen Buenos Aires clubs in the top two divisions alone. Each one is attached to a particular 'barrio' or borough, so there's is so much local pride at stake, you couldn't get any of them to merge.

    Imagine if every borough in London had its own club in the top 2 divisions. :eek:
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    Big Boy BarryBig Boy Barry Posts: 35,391
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    There are about two dozen Buenos Aires clubs in the top two divisions alone. Each one is attached to a particular 'barrio' or borough, so there's is so much local pride at stake, you couldn't get any of them to merge.

    Imagine if every borough in London had its own club in the top 2 divisions. :eek:

    "Good evening, and welcome to MOTD. Tonight we start with the heated local derby between Hounslow and Westminister......."
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    the chimpthe chimp Posts: 12,139
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    BMR wrote: »
    I live in the area and can tell you Nottingham's population is nowhere near that. Even the 666,000 figure includes places in Derbyshire like Long Eaton and Ilkeston which wouldn't consider themselves part of Nottingham.

    On Ilkeston I can understand even though there are crap loads of forest fans there, long eaton though you are having a laugh.

    Besides that's what it is according to how it's worked out, just like other cities that are worked in the same way.
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    the chimpthe chimp Posts: 12,139
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    Arsespur

    Heart of Hiberian

    Fulsea

    Everpool

    Manchester Actually United



    Though in all seriousness, I wouldn't want to be the one who volunteers to tell Boca Juniors and River Plate fans that they should consider merging.
    Instead of Arsepur, how about Tottenham Hotarse.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,734
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    "Good evening, and welcome to MOTD. Tonight we start with the heated local derby between Hounslow and Westminister......."

    Absolutely! It virtually is like that!

    On this map covering the 2011 season, 13 out of 20 top division clubs are in the Greater Buenos Aires area. :eek:

    Then another dozen in the second division.
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    Big Boy BarryBig Boy Barry Posts: 35,391
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    the chimp wrote: »
    Instead of Arsepur, how about Tottenham Hotarse.

    Yep, that's better

    lol
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    Steveaustin316Steveaustin316 Posts: 15,779
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    Wasn't there a planned merger of Reading and Oxford back in the 80's that was announced, but didn't happen?
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    Jim De VilleJim De Ville Posts: 16,122
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    Wasn't there a planned merger of Reading and Oxford back in the 80's that was announced, but didn't happen?

    Yes, I think that they were going to be called 'Thames Valley Royals'. Fat thief, Robert Maxwell, was behind it.
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    Only due to boundary changes in the 1950's. West Brigford is a de facto suburb of Nottingham proper.

    Never the less it's not in the City of Nottingham:)
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    Pepperoni ManPepperoni Man Posts: 7,798
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    Anybody who think you can simply take 2 clubs from the same city and merge them is either a troll or has no understanding whatsoever about football and supporting a club
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    Big Boy BarryBig Boy Barry Posts: 35,391
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    SULLA wrote: »
    Never the less it's not in the City of Nottingham:)

    For all intents and purposes, they are. They were in Nottingham when they were founded. If someone altered the boundaries to exclude Anfield, it wouldn't make Liverpool less Liverpudlian.
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    For all intents and purposes, they are. They were in Nottingham when they were founded. If someone altered the boundaries to exclude Anfield, it wouldn't make Liverpool less Liverpudlian.

    A boundary through Stanley Park:eek::eek:

    I like to be accurate. They should be called West Bridgford Forrest.:p
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    Steveaustin316Steveaustin316 Posts: 15,779
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    Which two clubs in the same city would benefit most from ground sharing?
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    Big Boy BarryBig Boy Barry Posts: 35,391
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    SULLA wrote: »
    I like to be accurate. They should be called West Bridgford Forrest.:p

    Why would they add a second "r" to their name?

    In any case Forest could simply argue that "Nottingham" in their name refers to heritage and origin.
    Which two clubs in the same city would benefit most from ground sharing?

    Sheffield, Dundee and Bristol

    Having larger common stadiums would also be helpful for any future England EURO bids (I presume the FA have given up on the World Cup)
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    Why would they add a second "r" to their name?
    The new name would give them the chance to correct a long term spelling mistake.
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    Jim De VilleJim De Ville Posts: 16,122
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    Why would they add a second "r" to their name?

    In any case Forest could simply argue that "Nottingham" in their name refers to heritage and origin.



    Sheffield, Dundee and Bristol

    Having larger common stadiums would also be helpful for any future England EURO bids (I presume the FA have given up on the World Cup
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    Bristol City are building a new, bigger stadium, and the trigger for that was the World Cup bid. I'd add Liverpool to the ground-sharing list.
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    Which two clubs in the same city would benefit most from ground sharing?
    Bristol City are building a new, bigger stadium, and the trigger for that was the World Cup bid. I'd add Liverpool to the ground-sharing list.

    If both clubs want a massive new stadium, it would make sense
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    Big Boy BarryBig Boy Barry Posts: 35,391
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    SULLA wrote: »
    The new name would give them the chance to correct a long term spelling mistake.

    They were named after the Forest Recreation Ground

    One "r"
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    They were named after the Forest Recreation Ground

    One "r"

    It would appear that years ago, somebody spelled it wrong:o

    Everything you have said about Forest has been correct. I sometimes tend to be pedantic:(
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 95
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    Bristol City are building a new, bigger stadium, and the trigger for that was the World Cup bid. I'd add Liverpool to the ground-sharing list.

    Nah we will do up Ashton Gate
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