This is England 1990 airing September 13th
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It will have been exactly 9 years since the first instalment in 2006 and over 3½ since the last ’88 series was aired and I must admit I have “REALLY” been looking forward to it. In preparation I have even gone all retro and spent the last fortnight re-watching ’83, ’86 and ’88 to remind myself it was as good as I remembered.
On reflection I forgot Shaun wasn’t the only child actor in the first film (as a 14 yr old playing 12), with the actor playing Gadget only 15 playing 14 and the girls playing Trev, Kelly, Smell and Pob still only 16 playing 15. The most successful of the bunch Jack O’Connell was only 15 at the time of filming, who would have known he was going to hold his own with Hollywood finest after only five years!!
Shane Meadows certainly picked a great bunch of actors to bring to life a little bit of 1980’s Britain.
Roll on 1990!!
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/a664658/find-out-when-this-is-england-90-will-air-on-channel-4.html#~pm2wl5RSllQJDr
On reflection I forgot Shaun wasn’t the only child actor in the first film (as a 14 yr old playing 12), with the actor playing Gadget only 15 playing 14 and the girls playing Trev, Kelly, Smell and Pob still only 16 playing 15. The most successful of the bunch Jack O’Connell was only 15 at the time of filming, who would have known he was going to hold his own with Hollywood finest after only five years!!
Shane Meadows certainly picked a great bunch of actors to bring to life a little bit of 1980’s Britain.
Roll on 1990!!
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/a664658/find-out-when-this-is-england-90-will-air-on-channel-4.html#~pm2wl5RSllQJDr
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And no Combo in this one by the look of it.
Where did you hear that, it’ll be a pity if it’s true? Much as I’m impressed with Joseph Gilgun and Vicky McClure ‘s performances as Woody and Lol, Stephen Graham’s portrayal of Combo was top drawer.
This article suggests he was planning to be part of ’90, unless there was a sudden change of heart.
http://www.esquire.co.uk/culture/film-tv/7819/stephen-graham-interview/
The IMDB summary certainly suggests Combo’s release from prison, so I assume and hope he will appear at some stage.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2528254/
Some of the acting is appalling - they need to ditch Andrew Shim, Joseph Gilgun (don't get the praise for this massive ham!) and Thomas Turgoose.
I hope there are more, I liked the series up until now. Some of the acting is a bit basic but the story more than makes up for that. I wonder if 1990 is really going to be the last one
I think in '83 Shaun filled the void as a little brother to most of the older cast members and presumably they kept their distance after the Combo incident because they had not kept there collective promise to Shaun's mum to look after him.
I suppose in '86 and a few years apart, they now felt as a 16 year old and completing school he was old enough to decide for himself who he wanted to 'hang' with. Not to forget Smell was always fond of him (kissed passionately in '83) and now that he was older they could cement a proper relationship .......................... which I seem to remember they did on Shaun's mums sofa,......or was that a dry hump?
It just seemed a little weird, especially the whole dramatic singing outside his house thing. I guess Smell was the proper connection that kept them together.
I too was under the impression that ‘90 was the last instalment of the series, which would be a pity. I kind of like the idea of a 1999 or 2000 miniseries, in about five years’ time; we have had to wait 3½ years since ’88 so what’s another five.
Additionally if it was to be aired in 2020 that would make it 14 years after the original and allow the actors to actually play their actual ages, rather than two/three years younger. The millennium was such an iconic period for most of us so it could make the foundation for a new series with Shaun in his mid-twenties, Harvey, Gadget & the girls thirty ish and Lol, Milky and Woody in their late thirties.
Features some interesting interesting snippets from Shane Meadows and the cast.
Hmm not sure what you mean there. The film was set in 1983; there were many youth subcultures at that time, but it wasn't as though they all lived in their own seperate bubbles. Skinheads, punks, and whatever Smell was (post-New Romantic Goth?), could be found socialising together, and listening to a varied selection of music. I used to know a skinhead around 1980 who, along with the regulation reggae/ska tastes, was also a massive Numanoid.
Fashions today seem a lot more homogenised, yet bizarrely more segregated.
My prediction - Kelly dies
That's my thought too, it's the best way to keep Vicky McClure (best acting ability in TIE) involved in the main story. How many more hammer blows can she take though? More than Mick is my bet.
Does it matter that I haven't seen any of the previous series, or can I just jump right in?
I'd suggest you try to catch the previous stuff, at least from the first series, if not the film, it will allow you to get to know the characters, and there may be references to past events in the new series.
Cavalli you must must must watch them, not too pricey:
The first film
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000VIRDAG?keywords=this%20is%20england&qid=1440953288&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
The series 86, and 88:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/This-England-Double-Pack-DVD/dp/B0073D9SUA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440953299&sr=8-1&keywords=this+is+england+86
Warning - be warned that some of the scenes are extremely disturbing, just so you know before you watch
It is going to be emotional, whatever happens, y'know how it goes, starts out funny - ends up disturbing.