I can't help but feel a bit hacked off with this if I'm honest. Why is it so hard to establish whether they were together or not that night? On one site it says he changes his mind constantly basically because he can't remember clearly due to smoking cannabis that night. Is that what it boils down to (alibi wise)?
Sollecito could have done this a long time ago and saved himself a heap of bother.
Not cutting Meredith's throat and letting her bleed to death would have saved him and Knox even more bother.
So, a serial liar and convicted murderer changes his story yet again when the current pack of lies fails to do the trick. Expect Knox to do something similar (again) as the appeal to the Supreme Court approaches.
I can't help but feel a bit hacked off with this if I'm honest. Why is it so hard to establish whether they were together or not that night? On one site it says he changes his mind constantly basically because he can't remember clearly due to smoking cannabis that night. Is that what it boils down to (alibi wise)?
As I see it there are several possibilities that do not involve their having killed Meredith.
To be honest I'm surprised he didn't try and distance himself earlier but that is more a reflection on the judiciary, the media and the experiences to date etc. and not in anyway some kind of definitive reflection of guilt on his or her part as some seem to be implying.
Thanks but that doesn't really answer my question.
You asked why is it so hard to establish if they were together? I assume because Knox's phone at some point was said to register outside his flat. From what I read Knox was the only flatmate who didn't have a solid alibi, and the flatmates had good things to say about her until the police fingered her. Then they got negative.
The likelihood of Knox being extradited, in my opinion, is somewhere below zero. If the final appeal court confirms the guilty verdict, there will be years of legal wrangling. First her lawyers will claim it violates double jeapordy (knowing this will fail but it will use up time). Then they'll present the case on its total lack of merits.
The Italians need to show the case according to the American burden of proof. This conviction rests on a shaky circumstantial case and hearsay. The 'forensic' evidence is really nothing at all. None of this would hold up in a US courtroom.
Given this, Sollecito is making the right moves for himself.
You asked why is it so hard to establish if they were together? I assume because Knox's phone at some point was said to register outside his flat. From what I read Knox was the only flatmate who didn't have a solid alibi, and the flatmates had good things to say about her until the police fingered her. Then they got negative.
Sorry I should've been clearer, why is it so hard for Sollecito to say if she was with him or not (and I mean the whole evening) is what I meant. It's either a yes, no, or don't remember kind of answer for me!
In the very first flush of a romance you would usually notice if the target of your affection disappeared for a bit if you were making out. Even if you smoke dope you still notice, it doesn't make you completely brain dead. The danger of his (apparent) changing testimony is he sounds unreliable.
The likelihood of Knox being extradited, in my opinion, is somewhere below zero. If the final appeal court confirms the guilty verdict, there will be years of legal wrangling. First her lawyers will claim it violates double jeapordy (knowing this will fail but it will use up time). Then they'll present the case on its total lack of merits.
The Italians need to show the case according to the American burden of proof. This conviction rests on a shaky circumstantial case and hearsay. The 'forensic' evidence is really nothing at all. None of this would hold up in a US courtroom.
Given this, Sollecito is making the right moves for himself.
It's ludicrous. All the prosecution have to go on with Amanda Knox is her rather flakey police interviews - which were extremely long and they can't even use much of it because it broke European and Italian law.
The only piece of hard 'forensic' evidence they have is linked to Sollecito (the bra strap) which is pretty much meaningless.
I thought there were also footprints? that they suspected were his as well but i stand to be corrected on that.
Not to blame sollecito is besides the point in my view, what about the truth of the situation, was AK with him all night or not.
So is ok now for RS to change is story and tell lies?if they are? Just because as far as most people are concerned he is a victim of an injustice? Personally i find this really concerning..
Sorry I should've been clearer, why is it so hard for Sollecito to say if she was with him or not (and I mean the whole evening) is what I meant. It's either a yes, no, or don't remember kind of answer for me!
In the very first flush of a romance you would usually notice if the target of your affection disappeared for a bit if you were making out. Even if you smoke dope you still notice, it doesn't make you completely brain dead. The danger of his (apparent) changing testimony is he sounds unreliable.
Well maybe it's not a yes or no because the police can play two people off against each other. They could tell S that K already said she was not there, leaving him not much choice but say okay she wasn't.
In addition if she did step out and didn't have an alibi for the entire evening, she might have needed one as she was the only flat mate without one. That doesn't make her guilty though.
It does make it hard if they keep changing stories. Only the prosecution is allowed to do that.
I've thought that possibly Knox saw something she was terrified to report it or some other reason. I think she could know something, but I don't think she was the murderer. That is just my take on it from all I've read, the mock up of the room. And things like footprints that were erroneously attributed to Sollecito.
you will furnish the forum with the details in due course then, of the untrue sections,thanks in advance or else take the easy exit and just say "I think Knox is innocent"...that would be fine
Whats wanting baddies in horror films to come to a bad end got to do with anything? Do you think Knox is a baddie in a horror film then? hmmm interesting.....no need to be so stalkerish sneaky and snidy...oh hang on.....perhaps you should stick to football threads
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not nice when its on the other foot is it mr paradise
Let's face it. the Italians cocked up the DNA evidence to such an extent that it can be discounted IMO. Amanda and Meredith were flatmates, it simply doesn't stand to reason that no DNA from Amanda was found in Meredith's room. I know they fell out when Meredith accused Amanda of stealing money from her - that puts Amanda in Meredith's room. Bunch of girls sharing a house, multiple DNA all over the house, including Mereith's room.
Given that we discount the flawed DNA evidence, what do we have left? Suspicious behaviour by Knox, the 'phone evidence and now RS retraction of Knox's alibi.
I have always believed Knox was guilty.
Your last sentence.... I agree.
The Italian judicial sentence is laboured & farcical. It has been 7 years, since Meredith was murdered.
My sympathies are with her parents. They will never have closure.
Amanda Knox, the Washington woman who was accused of murdering her roommate in Italy, said she is speaking out now in a Netflix documentary to "explain what it feels like to be wrongfully convicted."
"What I’m trying to convey is a regular person like me, just a kid who was studying abroad who loves languages, could be caught up in this nightmare where they’re portrayed as something they’re not," Knox, 29, said today on “Good Morning America." "I think I’m trying to explain what it feels like to be wrongfully convicted, to either be this terrible monster or to be just a regular person who is vulnerable."
The truth is that Knox herself has said that the whole spotlight on her (and her trumped up sexuality) took away from the Kerscher's story.
Mignini decided for some crazy reason, to involve Knox after Guide was already known to have done it. And it's he and the media, that even agree they took stuff out of context, to make Knox look like a vixen.
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Not cutting Meredith's throat and letting her bleed to death would have saved him and Knox even more bother.
So, a serial liar and convicted murderer changes his story yet again when the current pack of lies fails to do the trick. Expect Knox to do something similar (again) as the appeal to the Supreme Court approaches.
As I see it there are several possibilities that do not involve their having killed Meredith.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/amanda-knox-links-local-cocaine-3800662
Do they get these ideas of CSI or something ?
Thanks but that doesn't really answer my question.
You asked why is it so hard to establish if they were together? I assume because Knox's phone at some point was said to register outside his flat. From what I read Knox was the only flatmate who didn't have a solid alibi, and the flatmates had good things to say about her until the police fingered her. Then they got negative.
The Italians need to show the case according to the American burden of proof. This conviction rests on a shaky circumstantial case and hearsay. The 'forensic' evidence is really nothing at all. None of this would hold up in a US courtroom.
Given this, Sollecito is making the right moves for himself.
Sorry I should've been clearer, why is it so hard for Sollecito to say if she was with him or not (and I mean the whole evening) is what I meant. It's either a yes, no, or don't remember kind of answer for me!
In the very first flush of a romance you would usually notice if the target of your affection disappeared for a bit if you were making out. Even if you smoke dope you still notice, it doesn't make you completely brain dead. The danger of his (apparent) changing testimony is he sounds unreliable.
http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php
as some of what you say is untrue/mistaken
Not to blame sollecito is besides the point in my view, what about the truth of the situation, was AK with him all night or not.
So is ok now for RS to change is story and tell lies?if they are? Just because as far as most people are concerned he is a victim of an injustice? Personally i find this really concerning..
Well maybe it's not a yes or no because the police can play two people off against each other. They could tell S that K already said she was not there, leaving him not much choice but say okay she wasn't.
In addition if she did step out and didn't have an alibi for the entire evening, she might have needed one as she was the only flat mate without one. That doesn't make her guilty though.
It does make it hard if they keep changing stories. Only the prosecution is allowed to do that.
I've thought that possibly Knox saw something she was terrified to report it or some other reason. I think she could know something, but I don't think she was the murderer. That is just my take on it from all I've read, the mock up of the room. And things like footprints that were erroneously attributed to Sollecito.
No. Much of that site is untrue/mistaken.
You just need to read this contribution from the OP for balance:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1981179
you will furnish the forum with the details in due course then, of the untrue sections,thanks in advance or else take the easy exit and just say "I think Knox is innocent"...that would be fine
So Pathetic and reported
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Whats wanting baddies in horror films to come to a bad end got to do with anything? Do you think Knox is a baddie in a horror film then? hmmm interesting.....no need to be so stalkerish sneaky and snidy...oh hang on.....perhaps you should stick to football threads
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not nice when its on the other foot is it mr paradise
Your last sentence.... I agree.
The Italian judicial sentence is laboured & farcical. It has been 7 years, since Meredith was murdered.
My sympathies are with her parents. They will never have closure.
Looks interesting.
http://youtu.be/f5SFjSxzS7M
Pains me to say it but that is a great trailer from Netflix.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/review-kafkaesque-horror-of-amanda-knox/
Worse than what Meredith Kerscher went through???
Well obviously not, but to go through all of that for something you didn't do is clearly horrific for her and her family.
Looking forward to watching this (despite all then books i've read and other stuff over the years)
I knew someone would say that.
The truth is that Knox herself has said that the whole spotlight on her (and her trumped up sexuality) took away from the Kerscher's story.
Mignini decided for some crazy reason, to involve Knox after Guide was already known to have done it. And it's he and the media, that even agree they took stuff out of context, to make Knox look like a vixen.